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  2. Presson
    You switch on, the fuel pump primes, press start and you get a click but no start. This sounds like a battery or starter fault or a fault on one of the switches ( clutch/ side stand) or one of the diodes ( clutch/ neutral) or on a relay. I suppose you could have a problem on the charging circuit but as Terry pointed out, that is not going to prevent the engine starting and running if the battery is good. I would: 1. Check DTC codes to eliminate confusion from problems there. 2. Do as Captain 80s suggested by trying the starter from a car battery but eliminating the bike battery. If the starter turns you'll know it's a bad battery problem. I wasn't absolutely clear that you've done this already. 3. If no starter function, try 2 with clutch pulled in and side stand up - worth giving the side stand switch a good clean. If you get a get a starter motor function at this point you can be sure it's a switch problem. 3. If no solution, follow the diagnostic procedure for the starter system on page 6-3 of the manual that will work through every part of the system down to the switches and diodes. You'll need a good battery. 4. Do the checks on the charging system from page 19-4 of the manual. Good luck
  3. SgtMarbles
    Jumped the cables with the same result. Oil level is at the same level the service manual instructs. The motor is not hydro locked. I pulled out the regulator rectifier and found that it is not stopping current from the wrong direction. It also will not allow me to forward bias the diodes. I will still be inspecting the starter motor itself. Cheers!
  4. V4 Rosso
    The tiles look like a good surface/foundation for an epoxy floor.
  5. Captain 80s
    There is a chance that the battery is so damaged that it is impeding a good battery from making a difference. I've had that happen multiple times over the last few decades. If it was me, I would eliminate the bike battery and jump right to the battery cables (carefully) to absolutely take that possibility out. Then I would apply voltage directly to the starter, or the starter side of the relay to see if the starter is operational. The click is likely telling you that the relay is working. How does your oil level look? Maybe remove your plugs and see if you are hydro locked for some reason. Grasping, but these are all still possibilities.
  6. SgtMarbles
    I hooked up some jumper cables to the car and bike, still the same result. No start, no crank, just a click. The bike died while it was running so im just trying to grasp why the starter motor would have any confliction? I also don’t understand why the bike wouldn’t bump start, I have done it countless times before.
  7. Crusty1
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    found a thread with part numbers to cobble one together with CBR600 parts. Anyone tired this?
  9. Worfje
    1. the 1998 Honda VFR800-FIW (bought in 2006 with 25.000 km, now at 135.000 km)
  10. mmi64
    Thanks - I'll look for some wheel nuts. I do already use an anti pinch pin on my Multistrada but I don't think that's an option for the VFR. I have now chosen a bike, a 2010 plate, paid deposit and picking up on Monday...
  11. LEGEND
    BLS! I still have the foot peg lowering brackets on my 2007 VFR! I was working at McClellan with VA at the time and picked up the lowering blocks from you in person. The first 20 years of riding for me was on used bikes…..going from memory….. 1979 Kawasaki KZ400 1980 Honda CB400T 1978 Honda CB400 x2 1981 Kawasaki CSR 305 bought it to flip and eventually sold it with minimum profit but enjoyed the challenge 1974 CB750 1977 CB750 1985 Honda VF700 1994 Honda PC800 Bought the rest brand new..always left over models 2001 Kawasaki ZR7S 2003 Suzuki Bandit1200S 2006 Honda CBR1000RR 2006 Honda VTX 1300S 2007 Honda VFR800 2008 Suzuki Bking 2011 NT700V I still own and enjoy the last three on the list.
  12. Tirso
    This covers the physical connections, but firmware will be an issue. Though I started thinking that maybe the patch we used in early '20 to fix the problematic PC5s could provide a way to convert other PC5's for 5th and 6th Gen VFRs. After a conversation with ChatGPT, It may be possible. If you want to read the entire conversation or TL;DR Perfect — here’s a donor checklist you can use if you go hunting for a Power Commander V (PCV) to convert for your 1998–2001 VFR800 (5th-gen) with the B16-005.02.ddat patch: ✅ Best Donor Candidates Look for PCVs originally sold for Honda inline-4 sportbikes, ideally of the same late-90s/early-2000s era: Honda CBR600RR / CBR600F4i (’01–’06) Honda CBR929RR / CBR954RR (’00–’03) Honda CBR1000RR (early models, ’04–’07) Why: These all use sequential 4-cylinder injection, similar TPS scaling, and ECU signal types compatible with the VFR. Harnesses are often pinned in a similar Sumitomo layout, which makes repinning/adapting easier. ⚠️ Usable, but may need more harness work Other Honda PCV units for inline-4s outside the above years. They can still be repinned and patched, but the harness plugs may differ more significantly. ❌ Poor Donor Choices (avoid) Twin-cylinder units (SV650, Ducati, VTR1000, etc.) — firmware/table layout is totally different. Inline-3 or 6-cylinder PCVs — wrong number of injector drivers. ATV/snowmobile PCVs — not even close on harness or firmware scaling. 🔎 What to Check Before Buying Connector type The VFR uses Sumitomo HM090-style connectors at the ECU. If your donor harness doesn’t match, you’ll need to repin or build an adapter. Injector count Must be a 4-injector unit. Some PCVs for bikes with secondary injectors (CBR1000RR, GSX-Rs) have “8-injector” variants. Avoid those unless you’re ready to cap off the extra set. Dynojet part number Dynojet PCV part numbers are usually 16-xxx for Honda. Example: PCV #16-021 (CBR600RR). Those are good donor bases. 📌 After You Get One Connect it to WinPEP 8. Flash B16-005.02.ddat via Support → Send Data File. Confirm in PCV software that the unit now identifies as a VFR800 1998–2001. Check harness vs. your VFR ECU pinout, and repin if needed.
  13. RC1237V
    I don't remember the brand of tiles, it was over 10 years ago. They did not look as solid as those that you have pictured, so you may have better luck. Do you know how much the pallet stacker weighs, and does it have solid rubber or plastic wheels? Also if it can turn on a dime, that creates an insane amount of twisting force under the footprint of the machine, as most can turn just a shade under 90 degrees (in their own profile). I have never seen a professional workshop garage use any synthetic tiles - always concrete, bare or painted. Not trying to argue, just giving you food for thought to save potential heartache/wallet ache... That tile floor would be great, but like you said the first time you drop a jack stand or large adjustable wrench, or anything else heavy, it will crack and break.... The wood might be fine for awhile, but debris from the pallet loader wheels will probably get pushed into the wood if it is soft enough. Another concern is getting all your racks bolted to the concrete below for best integrity, you will likely need to cut through all the layers to achieve that anyway. It looks like the floor is opening up the proverbial "Can of worms" causing a project within the project. I can hear all the old-timers I used to work with, they would always say, "Do it once - Do it right" and I'm sure you will knock it out of the park with whatever you decide! Looking forward to seeing the progress as it comes to fruition.
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  15. Bren
    @JZH If it was me.....I'd lift the timber floor boards and use adhesive to fix down 18mm marine plywood (WBP) on top of the tiles. Hard wearing and will add even more insulation. Your pallet loader will run over it fine and all load will be transferred down through to the tiles. A coat of sealer if you wish to resist stains. Leave a gap at the edges of 10mm for movement. Trim the door down to suit and it'll be good.
  16. bmart
    No Greg? 🙂
  17. JZH
    My Power Commander collection: FYI, the PCII's connectors are made by Furukawa and the PCIII/PCV connectors are made by Sumitomo (spare terminals and seals are readily available for both types, but no re-wiring should be necessary--they're either plug-n-play or they aren't). (I've also confirmed that my PCV was intended for a 2009 VFR800F.) Looking at the wiring diagrams for the early and late US-spec and EU-spec 5th gens, I believe they all use the same connections for the Sumitomo 10P connector. I also looked at the 6th gen wiring diagrams and they all appear to use the same connections (although I didn't check the actual pin assignments), which probably explains why the 2009 PCV works on my 2000 RC46. I have some other Honda wiring diagrams to hand, but I checked a few of them and none of the other bikes used the 10P Sumitomo connector. It is still possible that someone could still make a non-VFR PC work on a VFR, but that would require some wiring diagram studying and connector changing/re-pinning. Good luck! Ciao, JZH
  18. JZH
    Here's what is there now: I pulled up some of the interlocking boards in one corner, showing the tiles. I think there's 9cm or so of concrete underneath (TBC). The wood boards sit on top of 7mm green fiberboard insulation, which together equal 3cm. I can pull up all the boards and expose the tile, but tools dropped onto those tiles will probably crack them, so I want to do something... Removing all the tiles to get down to the concrete would be a huge hassle/mess. I was never a big fan of plastic garage floors to begin with, but I'm not seeing a lot of other good options! Of course, just leaving the wood flooring in place could also be an option, but I'm not sure how long it would last as an active garage floor. The pallet stacker would probably drive over it with no problem. The brick wall in the photo above will be coming out (it is not load-bearing), and there are some other gaps in the tiling which I could fill with additional boards. Plus, the wood & fibreboard together would provide the most insulation of any of the other options... I do have to decide what I'm going to do pretty soon, though, because in order to get the doors open I will have to deal with the threshold and trim the doors accordingly! Ciao, JZH
  19. St. Stephen
    Reading the last paragraph Lorne attached I found myself laughing hard as I recalled a friend who, yes, would have plugged in a blow dryer from the bathroom to heat and smooth the floor tiles in his garage. I can be pretty OCD at times but please shoot me before I descend to that level of form over function. Anyway, I would go for simple cement, although it is obviously JZH's money spent not mine.
  20. Lorne
    Wouldn't it all come down to the load/area? Seems hard to believe that a company selling garage flooring wouldn't have taken into account the wear & tear of jacks and rolling cabinets full of tools. They list a Hardness = 89-92 Shore A, but not a more understandable load rating. Otoh, their faq says this:
  21. vfrcapn
    I don't think the wiring can be changed on a PC2, it terminates inside and the unit itself is sealed.
  22. Presson
    If you look in the manual, you can easily check the reg/rec. At 5000rpm you should be seeing 14.5v at the battery. Clearly you need to get it started first and Captain 80s has explained how to do that simply. As I said before, the 8 Gen is not known for the reg/ rec problems of earlier generations. I'd do the checks before assuming the worst.
  23. Captain 80s
    Just because the trickle charger (or a multi-meter) might report "charged", it doesn't mean the battery can withstand a load. Even if the battery is new, it may have been damaged from being ran down due to a failing charging system or just a bad battery from the get-go. It happens. If you have a car handy, run some jumper cables to the bike without the car running and see what happens just for giggles.
  24. SgtMarbles
    I put the battery on the trickle charger last night and got the same result, I will be checking the starter motor later today. One other thing I remembered was the horn sounding rather “derpy” and off key the day before the bike died on me. If the RR is bad it would explain why it sounded like it did. Just another symptom I am noting… Cheers!
  25. JZH
    It's not a silly question, but I don't think anyone knows for sure (except Dynojet). I bought a PCV for my 2000 VFR800Fi (which I think was for a 6th gen), because I had been convinced for some reason that the PCV unit was common at least among Honda models. (Dynojet did not make a PCV for my bike. I'm now not sure which Honda model my PCV was for--it may have been for a CBR?) In any case, it had the same connectors and it does work on my VFR. My guess would be that any PCII or PCIII-USB for a Honda from the same era, with the same connectors, would work. But, maybe not! I will have a look at my PCIII-USB's connectors and post a pic if it's at the house. Ciao, JZH
  26. JZH
    Locking wheel nuts would not be a problem--they're even sold in sets of 4! I'm not sure the size, probably M12 with a tapered seat, but confirm the required seat profile before buying. I have some Ali-Express "5-sided" titanium nuts on my van, which I quite like. For any kind of locking wheel nuts, make sure the special key fits into the holes, though. Fitting something through the frame is the best way to secure a bike, but as you say, which "thing" very much depends on the bike. The silly frame slots on a 3rd gen have one good use, for example, which is to allow a small u-lock to go through the bike's frame! You are already a Pragmasis owner, but are you familiar with their "Anti-Pinch Pins"? I have two sizes, one which goes through the SSSA hollow axle, and one that I just use to join up two of my garage chains (which might be 19mm, now that you mention it). They may have other sizes, one of which might be able to poke through some hard (or not easily disassembled) places within the bike frame/engine area? I've stopped worrying about UK bike theft by (a) not riding anywhere, and (b) leaving the country! Ciao, JZH
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