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In 1998 I jumped back to the VFR fold with this brand new VFR800. Resprayed wheels improve visual and a Yoshimura RS3 helps unleash the aural. Unfortunately this bike met an untimely end when it was stolen less than a year, and 25K km later.
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I traded the 1200 VFR a year or so ago for a KTM GT. Similar idea, but different take. The KTM has roughly the same HP, but 100lbs lighter, much more torque. I always loved the engine on the VFR it was a monster, I could pass a slow mover on a 2 lane road without even having to downshift, and be around them in mere seconds. The KTM is even more torque and it wizzes by rather quickly too. I was a bit tired of the VFR because I had this constant elbow pain, something about the ergos put a strain on my elbow, and my knees would be wrecked after a half a day of spirited riding. The KTM has a much more upright riding postion, which in itself has a whole different set of trade offs. Taller seat height, which I remedied with a set of lowering springs, stiffer and it dropped the KTM 20mm. Wow what a difference that made. I really like all the doo dads too, semi active suspension. I would describe the suspension settings as Comfort - wallow, Street - not quite, Sport - Bumpy as F**K. The new springs really improved that too, its dialed in now. I had an Ohlins shock on the 1200 that I kept for 12 years and had rebuilt 3 times, and Andretti front cassettes and springs, it was about as good as it gets, but I never could get the front end just right, but it worked ok fully adjustable one fork was rebound the other was compression - and old racer solution from way back in the day. I sold it because I just cant do that bent over knee wrenching riding style anymore. So far I am happy with the KTM, I put 80,000 miles on the Veefalo, so far I havent even scratched the surface on the KTM. 6k maybe now? I am getting ready to put on new sprockets and chain, new tires, oil and filter, and then a valve adjustment. Some weird KTM required cleaning, a strange oil port you have to clean to get smooth shifts, its got a little removable oil jet you have to clean every few thousand miles. Here is a you tube vid of me an 3 guys in tow doing one of my favorite local rides to Bishops Castle in southern Colorado, make sure to crank up the quality..Youtube always puts it in the lowest setting???
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Exactly what Terry said. My guess would be it's either the fuel cut relay or the pump. A few years back my 4th Gen died on a very busy Toll road. It was so noisy I never picked up my fuel pump was not priming as I tried to restart the bike and ended up getting towed. I was 200+ miles from home, luckily at my brother's house when I figured it out. Disconnected the fuel cut relay and jumpered the plug, pump primed and bike started. I've taken a few pics of my 5th Gen Clymer manual of how to diagnose the pump and relay, I assume it's similar to a sixth Gen, but my 2001 is the newest bike I own, so............ Good luck mate.
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FromMaine replied to Ughandi's topic in Fifth Generation VFR's
Really nice write up/pictorial. I have a 1 ton chain hoist over my lift for for picking the bike up. But I will definitely store the ladder option in the back reaches of my mind. -
Yoshi style velocity stack and stock Throttle body.
NorthernV4 posted a question in Modification Questions
Hi there, I finally got myself some 929 injectors and a Honda/ Acura FPR thats is identical to the 5th gen one but 3 bar of pressure. I was going to taper bore my throttle to 42mm but i backed off (for now) due to cost. I don't now for you but it would cost me more than 1500$ of my Canadian dollars to bore it. So here's my questions: Can i get worthy improvement with stock TB and yoshi style stacks? Do i keep the stack going down to the TB or do i trim it creating a lip? Do i even keep the lower part of the twin stack or just the upper part/ bottom of the air box would be better? Have you done the math (lenght, spacing, rouding to the bottom of the airbox if no lower stack)? If i were to taper bore it i'd just copy Mohawk's homework which is well documented here but here we go. Also, i still plan on doing the big airbox and ram air intake with it. Anyway, thanks in advance! -
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Ughandi replied to Ughandi's topic in Fifth Generation VFR's
Well well well... the mad scientist strikes again. the ladder trick really did the work! It was VERY sketchy, but after distributing the load with a block of wood up top and securing transversely with easy-straps, I was able to confidently say the magic words "She aint goin nowhere" Next was to punch out the axle... and that was interesting! Quite easy to do, to be honest, and by some accounts on this forum, I consider myself lucky it were so simple. She's a little sour on the "left" (from rider position), but a good clean and grease & I'd wager she's good for another 60,000 miles 😁 Would love to poll advise from the viffer collective consciousness on this one. LMK how bad she is Now for the big battle of the job... Never have I ever struggled with a circlip like this before... I really had to muscle that bad boy off, and even then... I walked it off around its inner radius. (foreshadowing...) But we got there! Yee haw! a very scary job made simple. For years I was timid about taking the rear end apart, but it really is as simple as it could be! (challenging? Yes. Simple? yes. Such things are not mutually exclusive in my mind) Pics of the eccentric/bearings: And now for the whole point of this exercise... enjoy the eye candy, folks: Billet Hel rear brake caliper. And as pretty as she looks on the table... it was time to bring it all back together (and calm my nerves by getting this machine back on the earth!!) --- Reassembly --- So here we went... Step 1: Cir-clip ... well crap... this didn't go my way the first time, barely getting it removed. So what makes me think I can get it back ON.... After rummaging around town getting other bits I may need (across three hardware stores...), Ol Faithful Harbor Freight came to the rescue with the largest cir-clip pliers I have ever laid eyes on... That's right, folks. This Is how I got it back on. 🤣 After dying of maniacal laughter from my successes (and at my struggles from earlier), I press on to button everything up. All goes smoothly, and here's the end results... 🤤 Now... this job isn't complete, as I'll be back in there one more time to be sure that rear brake is clamping onto some kit as premium as itself... Stay tuned!
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That is exactly right. You should distinctly hear the pump whine for 2-3 seconds everytime you turn the key on or cycle the kill switch off/on. Start by jumpering power to the pump and see if it is working, then work back through the relays, If the pump is not running then you have no hope of starting a FI bike.
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The pump should "prime" for a second or so EVERY TIME the key is turned on. That's what he is trying to tell you.
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I thought about it but having the FI light extinguish as it has always done (KO no cranking) and unburned gas out the exhaust when cranking made me doubtful about the pump being an issue. I never found a fuse labeled pump. Unfortunately I don't have the means to test the pressure.
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"With an ear to the tank when the key is turned to ON I hear a click but nothing more". No fuel pump priming sound when you turn the key? That is where I would be starting.
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To get to it my 2007 decided to abruptly not start days ago. It sits under a cover and I start and run the engine periodically. I can't ride it as I'm sorting out a clutch issue. Perhaps more of that later.. The bike has ALWAYS started within a few cranks. It just turns over now. I can smell unburned gas at the exhaust. Gas is in tank. Battery fully charged. Battery voltage present at coil pins. Spark from plug grounded against engine. Fuses behind fairings good. Two large fuses near battery good. With an ear to the tank when the key is turned to ON I hear a click but nothing more. FI light comes on and goes out in seconds. Low oil and ABS lights remain lit as expected. Can't find wiring issues. There is no HISS light or any light for that matter on the Tach. When I find it I'll check the ECM and Ignition pulse generator 43,724 on odometer. Thoughts? There have been no engine issues until now.
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I had a similar problem but it wasnt all 3 calipers. It ended up being the piston seals failing, the piston wasnt retracting on the front right caliper which caused everything to overheat and burnt the brake fluid. I ended up doing a complete overhaul on everything including new rotors and everything is back to normal. At 23 years old im sure the seals in your calipers are due for replacement as well just because of age, like my 03 was. Word of advise is to stick to oem parts for the calipers/master/rubber parts, I went the K&S route and the seals were of much harder material which caused them not to retract. Bought oem parts and everything was good as new so don’t buy twice like I did. Also forgot to mention to look at the center piston on the rear caliper, if that is gold as well, that means your secondary master isn’t bleeding properly. Here is a great thread all about on how the secondary master works and the common issues it has when not maintained…
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Thanks ggathagan!
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Sadly the headlight is unique to the 5th gen. VFR While almost all on-line vendors list the part as unavailable, I did see it offered at Revzilla. I would certainly call to make sure it's in stock, but they show a price for it, so maybe it's available: https://www.revzilla.com/oem/honda/honda-33102-mbg-652-headlight-unit?sku_id=1458276
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Hi! New here! Got a 5th gen VFR and recently had a mishap in traffic and a broken headlight assembly! Headlights are no longer available from manufacturer and the second hand ones have a price way too high! Does anyone knows if there's a headlight assembly that fits on a 5th gen VFR!? (for exemple the one from CBR 900RR Fireblade) Thaks in advance!
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Regulator Rectifier and stator issues are pretty common on this model. I have had to replace both twice till I made my own wiring harness between the two using a much heavier gage wire. The original wiring is really thin and tends to over heat both and burn out both causing similar issues that you reported. Also make sure you check and replace your 30a fuse next to the battery. It is kind of hidden but check all of the above.
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There’s nothing in the front brake hydraulics which connects directly to the back; the front MC only squeezes pistons in the front callipers. To connect front to back, the front left calliper is pushed forwards by the wheel spinning when the front is applied, and that squeezes the secondary master cylinder which applies pressure to the centre rear piston. I think more likely the rear master is the source and has locked down the left front and rear calliper but not the right front.
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hi, new owner of a VFR800 gen6. i bought the bike without panniers and have recently gotten my hands on some new old stock colour matched panniers for a very good price. but i dont have mounting hardware. does anyone know where i can get mounting hardware? either OEM or aftermarket that match the OEM panniers? thanks in advance 🙂
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This is a video guide to servicing the VFR1200F. This was done on a UK bike - not sure if there are any small differences with US models but the principles should be the same. Posted here in case it helps anyone.https://youtu.be/KjuIHvGcJxo?si=rssQGAezVTqjKgfZ
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I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.
I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.
Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado
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Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain
From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped
Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs
Idaho Springs Colorado
Mashtuns and fermenters
Rows of fermenters
I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS
Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road
There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!
I did stop for pictures in all the best spots
Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate
Elephant Butte Park and Denver
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Veefalo on Squaw Pass
Juniper Pass
Juniper Pass
Mount Evans
My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers
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I Am Back !
Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.
Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.
My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.
With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.
So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.
Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since
Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.
I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:
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Oops. I do believe I know how to post YT videos or they wouldn't be on YT. However I may have screwed up copying the link to the playlist. Thanks for the helpful comment. -
I think that you might not know how to post videos. You're in your YT studio in these links. You need the link to the actual video. -
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