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I decided to open a new topic, cause this is a topic for itself. I have recently bought spare engine and decide to inspect it, renew it and give it a "Whole 9 Yards" of maintenance. From my point of view, it is easier to have a good spare engine and just make a swap while other engine is for checks and overhaul and meanwhile, You can enjoy your ride on Your VFR. I have bought engine from 2002 with stated 24k km. Well....you can't be sure in somebody statement so i was ready to do a complete overhaul on that engine. It's not a SF....well, not to me anyhow. So this is how the story goes....bought it from Germany and there was a problem with delivery...of course...but it arrived after 1 month period. In all this, just for the record, I work in Aviation industry for 30 years as well I build Mini Jet engines for hobby so I am familiar with a lot of things regarding these stuff ....engines, electronics, mechanical engineering and so on. I same how believe that a ordinary person does not think like me in these things. I just like to be always on the safe side and things have to work no matter the time or cost. Back to the engine....since i am in love in V4 engines, i had to do initial inspection and at first glance...it looked ok. More or less clean but oil filter had mark on it that last oil change was done in 2019.....well that is not good but...oil was inside the engine so that was something. First thing that i inspected as well is starter and than engine compression. Table for inspection values is attached as a picture. Starter was as good as new, by the condition of it, I would say that there is some minor use of this engine , starter had almost new brushes, and rotor collector was with witness marks only, no severe use that gave me hope that ODO can be real. Next thing was engine compression test. The engine is excellent; compression is equal across all cylinders at 150 PSI, although my 20Ah spare battery isn't great and cranks it... right on the limit. The spark plugs look good, slightly carbon-fouled, but it just needs a good 'Italian tune-up.' You can see from the pistons that they are a bit black as well. The crosshatch (honing marks) is clearly visible on the cylinder walls, very rich and dense. The valves are in great shape—the exhaust valves are all identical, while the intake valves show minimal wear. I am not measuring the VTEC valves at this point. The camshafts are excellent, with no scoring or signs of wear on the hardened layer. The water pump looks good, and the thermostat is perfect. Based on everything seen here, this engine has a long future ahead of it; it definitely hasn't done more than those alleged 24,000 km. I've finished by spraying oil into the cylinders since it will be sitting for a while. There are a few minor scuffs on the cylinders, but that doesn't worry me; the engine needs to run for a while before I can know more. Overall... an excellent buy for the price of a washing machine. I have recharged my battery for 2nd Compression measurements... I hooked up a battery and it's immediately better— measurement shows all cylinders around 170 PSI. Engine has compression limits from 142-178PSI and I would say that this engine has a bright future 🙂 As well i had to go and measure VTEC valves and there i found some problems ...all exhaust VTEC valves are out of tolerances....which can be 1 of 2 things...either engine was reved high usually or it was not adjusted at time and engine has more on ODO. More to come 🙂
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Hi again Qtip (cool screen name) Re: "Pair" system. Mine's a 5Gen, yours is 2002, so that would make it a 6Gen (in the UK) or is yours a late registered 5Gen? You can't really compare em, obviously there's are a good few differences between the two motors, from experience I can verify an early 5Gen (no Cat) defo idles better, pulls more cleanly from low rpm, where as before with Pair system fitted, it ran quite rough below 3,000rpm, ripped every part of it out, including flapper, blanked off all pipe stubs, bikes runs way better all thru the rev range, mine does pop a bit on decel, but it always did, I think that's more down to the Viper race can, sounds awesome so I'm not complaining. If you decide to junk the Pair, you can just cap off the read valve covers, achieves same results as fitting new alloy blank plates for next to no cost. Personally I'd leave the snorkel fitted, many claim it's better with it removed, I don't believe it is, so mine's staying put. Plenty of help & advice from the lads on here, just ask if you get stuck or unsure about anything, the collective in general is helpful. 👍 -
Nice work, i have to check my cooling system, it might look yours as well.
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I have identical problem with my engine and coolant hoses and found culprit. These fittings have seem from casting which have to be polished, otherwise you will have a leak. I bought New on and i have polished it to have nice round surface. This is the reason why these machines need to be check carefully and completely, not just change the fluid but rather remove everything and put it back together. Of course, that is how I do it. Refurbish everything if You want them to run perfectly.
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UPDATE 260222 Folks, here's the new update. NISSIN MCBS19 brake pump Of course... I couldn't refrain from that 😁 TAPERED STEERING BEARINGS To properly cool down the bottom yoke, I put it into the freezer with the dog's meat 😆 A slight warm up to the bearing... et voilà! With the new bearings in place, it's time for... TOP YOKE "DR. ERGAL DESIGN" It doesn't weight significantly less than the OEM unit, but it allows me to remove the key block, bringing the weight loss to a good point: And here it is COOLING SYSTEM MOD I removed thermostatic valve and deleted the bypass line. Any dead line has been closed with silicone caps Thermostatic OFF Lines closed with caps: In the nex days I'll going to get some time to install this big boy 😏 -
I poked around the shop a little today. I started putting coolant hoses together with some parts. Was a little surprised at the revealing of this pipe. Ordering a new one. Next I made pair block off plates. Not having delicate tools or fancy machinery, a sawzall and a grinder didn’t make for an award winning look but they will work fine. 3/16” aluminum sheet. The tires have good tread. Today I noticed the build dates. 1013 and 4015. I found my VFR rear wheel balancing jig. Yes!
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The VFR80fi is a lot lighter feeling than the previous K75s. And zippier too! 😉
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Second owner for 16 years. Never down. Always covered. Clean Title. Well maintained for a decade+ by Jim at Honda Fremont. 2 min. walkthrough and start video (sweet V4 sounds) - Craigslist ad - https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/d/fremont-2000-honda-vfr800-rare-yellow/7916941426.html Location: Fremont, CA Contact: PM me at VFRWorld, but faster response likely from CL ad. Looks great, runs strong and low miles for a VFR that was actually ridden on all bay area twisties. $5000 Test rides with full cash (in my hand) and valid M1 endorsement only. Tasteful mods made 10+ years ago and still working fine: - VFRNess and voltmeter to monitor charging system (see video) - Heated grips (see video) - Headlight modulator (see video) - Brake light modulator (see video) - Taller, tinted windscreen - Mirror extenders - Adjustable levers - Stebel horn (loud) - 12v outlet (see video) - Battery tender connection - Yesterday
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A venison burger in the air fryer, carbs in the ultrasonic cleaner. Or was it the other way round 🤔 Anyway everything came out ok 😉
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That right there is a wonderful ride, sights, sounds, smells & have some fun with the bike! -
Ha ha....it still works and keeps all the fluids inside! There's always a nervous moment when you flick the ignition on and wait for the error messages to pop up!
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Hi all, I have just downloaded the 2 files and have been quoted just under £80 UK pounds to get these printed, anyone else had these done, are they a good fit?
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Lucky me. I found a local shop that allows people to use their space and equipment. They check you out first to make sure you have a good idea of what you are doing. I got set up at a small welding table with a vise and oxy-acetyene torch and I went to town. It took me 30 minutes to get the bends right. Double the time I thought it would take. I did a test fit with the gauges and front cowl and all looks good. One tip to the less experienced is to have a set of dies and taps to clean up corrupt threads. You don't want to mess up or cross thread those little brass looking inserts on the front cowl attachment points at the gauge cluster and windshield attachment points or anywhere else. I am s firm believer of "chasing threads". The plastic repair is complete so now on to the body work.
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This company in France has fastener kits for lots of bike models: https://avdb-moto.fr/shop/en/specific-complete-fairings-hardware-kit-avdb/6004-58307-specific-hardware-kit-for-fairings-avdb-honda-vfr-800-vtec-2002-2013.html#/1624-colour-silver I have never done business with them so I don' t know about the quality.
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Hey guys, I'm in need of an idle adjuster cable, pictured below. I have a set that was in a fire and the cable is roached. Spring not necessary. Also always in search of Gen-2 and Gen-3 carb parts or whole sets in need of TLC. Thanks, Joe joe.nelson@ymail.com (ymail, not gmail 😉)
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May as well add... ProBolt as a source... excellent supplier... You could get aluminum bolts for the fairings... or titanium .... SS too... https://www.probolt-usa.com/ Cool thread!
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Hi Gaz, Really appreciate the detailed reply — that’s exactly the kind of info I was hoping for 👍. Just to clarify, the buzz of the pump is slightly louder when it’s running compared to the 2-second prime. The tone sounds the same, just a bit more pronounced once the bike’s idling. No hesitation, no surging, and it pulls cleanly through the revs, so it doesn’t feel like a fueling issue. I’ll still double-check the vac lines and will be replacing them all next week anyway. Good shout on the flapper line and making sure all for hoses on the air box base are connected. Would a partially restricted in-tank filter make it slightly louder or do these pumps just have a bit of a noticeable hum normally? It might just be my lack of experience with larger FI bikes. Interesting point about the PAIR system. I’ve read a bit about deleting it but hadn’t seriously considered it yet. It will be super easy now that I’ve got the tank and airbox off. Did you notice much difference after removing yours (smoother running, less popping on decel, etc.), and does yours still have a cat? I’m still waiting on parts to arrive but will definitely be checking valve clearance. Any recommendations for suppliers for gaskets or shims? And since I’ll be that far into the bike is there anything else I should look into? Thanks again for taking the time to respond, much appreciated from down here in Australia 🇦🇺 -
I found these when needed to clean up my 2001. Bought a pac of both 5 and 6 mm.
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Stators should always be checked hot. Cold test tells you nothing about the state of the wiring insulation which is what fails. It's very similar to a magnetic pickup but supplies much more current.
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If the Mc Master bit does not work, no there are no threads left to engage a threaded rod, you only choices are to lay the bike over gently and get some JB Weld mixed up and drizzle it down the hole and insert said threaded rod and wait a day. Make sure you put the slave cylinder on with the other bolts so that the threaded rod centers in the hole it is supposed to line up with. Not sure from the diagram, but if the bolt goes through the "Change Cover" (Item #3) you could drill and tap the hole in that cover for a Helicoil, or Time-Sert and just use a short bolt and be done with it. Keep us posted...
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interceptor69 replied to interceptor69's topic in Maintenance Questions
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Hi from the UK. Re: Fuel injection pump sound, pump should give a 2 second prime whine/buzz etc with ignition "ON" when kill switch is set on "Run" pump will not run again until motor fires, then it runs while ever motor is running, pump should make the exact same sound on prime as it does when constantly running. Never run fuel level low, pump's cooled by being submerged in fuel, low fuel level can kill the pump. Any weird noises beyond the normal pump whine needs investigation, check for any vac pipes not hooked up, flapper valve in airbox lid's a common pipe that gets forgotten about. Check all 4 vac hoses are hooked up to side of airbox base. I'd be checking the "Pair" system, if it's noisy, it's likely failed anyway, good excuse to rip it all out & blank off all airbox stubs & vac pipe that runs the flapper, which can also be junked too.
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If this is OEM style rectifier (not set special for lithium) you should see around 14.5 volts. Last time I had a fifth Gen making lower voltage, the stator was dying. This started with a weak battery and having to get a jump start. I charged battery and had it load tested, it was fine. Next was looking at charging voltage. It was somewhat fine ripping down the highway, and I saw high 13's to 14. However, sitting in traffic with the radiator fan kicking on revealed the truth. Voltage started to plummet. So, get your silver ride nice and toasty and watch how charging handles a full electrical load.
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The Last Day Of Good Riding Weather
Juniper Pass
I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.
I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.
Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado
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Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain
From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped
Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs
Idaho Springs Colorado
Mashtuns and fermenters
Rows of fermenters
I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS
Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road
There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!
I did stop for pictures in all the best spots
Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate
Elephant Butte Park and Denver
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Veefalo on Squaw Pass
Juniper Pass
Juniper Pass
Mount Evans
My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers
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I Am Back !
Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.
Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.
My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.
With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.
So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.
Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since
Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.
I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:
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Oops. I do believe I know how to post YT videos or they wouldn't be on YT. However I may have screwed up copying the link to the playlist. Thanks for the helpful comment. -
I think that you might not know how to post videos. You're in your YT studio in these links. You need the link to the actual video.
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