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  2. Haha, no surprises that there are differing opinions. Lord help us if we all liked exactly the same things. The Crossie is all-day comfortable. You can ride fast or take it easy and the miles can just vanish yet it is equally at home in the twisties. Yes, the suspension could be better for this (the same for every VFR) but the wider bars give you a lot more leverage for turning and your view ahead is better with a higher head height. And despite the higher drag from the upright riding position, I've seen well over 50mpg (imperial gallons) at high cruise speeds which gives nearly 250 miles to a tank. Looks aren't something that bother me too much, it's the bike between my legs that's important and the VFR800X, which has exactly the same engine as the 800F, ticks my boxes for what I need it for. 68000 miles, never failed to start first touch and with nary a cough or a splutter, all weathers, all year round for 6 years. However, I shall be sad to see her go come the spring as my commuting days are over and I cannot justify keeping her. YMMV, as always.
  3. The adventure bikes are quite ugly...not to mention that my shoulders are on fire about 1.5 miles in. It is very unnatural to have your arms WAY up there.
  4. As someone who only ever rides on the road, I just don't get the adventure bike style attraction (looks especially). For me the VFR800F is almost perfect. Sure, I'd prefer it to be rather lighter for the dynamics and the ergonomics only work in 1.5hr segments but it suits my purposes.
  5. The 1st Gen was very much "meh"... Test rode it when introduced...
  6. MotoGP is quite a few years ahead of the consumer market but you can see the pendulum swinging back to the V4 configuration.
  7. MotoGP is a whole different world from the American consumer motorcycle market.
  8. I don't doubt that at all, but it still doesn't have the same handling unless you've made some mods we are unaware of.
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  10. This is what cmsnl shows for a 2000 vfr. I've been keeping an eye on this thread, thinking it might be a down the road project.
  11. I think you'll find that's not a 5th Gen shift star, looks nothing like one. Looks like its for an old 750,
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  13. The 750 responds VERY well to substantial ride height increase in the rear and dropping the front. Much quicker steering, not a hint of nervousness.
  14. I haven't ridden a Crossrunner (we no get 😠), but I have done 80K on 5th gens with Crossrunner equivalent ergonomics 🤩. I completely understand your assessment.
  15. "It's never going to handle like a CBR600" Not sure on the 750, but my 800 beats 600's & has matched 600 club racers on track days 😎👍
  16. I've done nearly 70k miles on my Crossrunner and though I haven't owned an 8th Gen but have test ridden one, the Mk2 Crossrunner is the best VFR800 Honda produced. IMHO of course.
  17. It's just an aftermarket adjustable sidestand. Amazon special. I was going to return it if it was a total POS, but it has worked nicely. One of those rare worth-it impulse buys. Haha.
  18. What is going on with the side stand in that photo - looks interesting.
  19. Ducati and Aprilia would disagree. Even Yamaha is going to a V4 in MotoGP in ‘26.
  20. I have doubts. Seems the market these days is fine with inline fours, and twins. We V4 fanatics are a dying breed.
  21. It's never going to handle like a CBR600, but raising the rear, lowering the front, and using elliptical profile tires in the correct size will be a big improvement. The downside is it's getting hard to find sport tires in 170/60.
  22. The Crossrunner was a nice machine I’d love to own. Shame it was never imported to the states.
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  24. They are all setup very stable as stock. My 800 is 2" up in the backend & 10mm down at the front & it's still very stable. Tyre profile & pressures can have a huge effect on turn in, run sporty rather than touring tyres.
  25. FYI, some pics of my 5th gen Shift Star: Ciao, JZH
  26. In my office. Sometimes I have to leave her at work overnight or for the weekend. She has her own spot. I should bring the swingarm stand!
  27. Sure, offer the fetal position ergonomics superbike but I'd like to see them continue their recent years trend of stuffing new engines all across the line. Bring back the Crossrunner, let's get a new Magna, modern take on the Sabre
  28. RVF1000RR-R for 2026 revealed!!!!!! I know this isn't that kind of headline or story... but I'll believe it when I see it. Seen this before and have been laughing at the click-bait for ~10 years. "Patent filings in the mid-2010s detailed a V4 engine for a potential literbike that could replace the CBR1000RR. While Honda has a history of V4 engines, this specific, mass-production-oriented V4 superbike never materialized."
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      Juniper Pass

      I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.

       

       

       

       

      I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.

       

       

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      Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado

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      Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain

      From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped

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      Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs

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      Idaho Springs Colorado

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      Mashtuns and fermenters

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      Rows of fermenters

      I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS

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      Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road

      There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!

      I did stop for pictures in all the best spots

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      Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate

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      Elephant Butte Park and Denver

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      Close up

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      Veefalo on Squaw Pass

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      Juniper Pass

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      Juniper Pass

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      Mount Evans

      My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers

       

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      Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.

      Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.

      My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.

      With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.

      So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.

      Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since smile.gif

      Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.

      I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:

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