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Cheers "Stray". I just might take u up on that kind gesture. Done a bit more nosing around eBay breakers eyeballing different shift stars from various Honda models from the 90's, discovered a 91/92 era VFR750 uses an identical looking shift star to a F/Pro, dunno if it's pinned up the same without buying one to compare, but it does look a viable option on first impressions, certainly better than a stock 5G star. That aside, I've since took a punt on a 98 CBR600F3 shift star which has a very similar profile as a F/Pro, but even better, the valley section where it's held in gear with the detent roller has a more pronounced curve, hence detent roller is held in a cup like section, I suspect Honda designed em this way to ensure the shift drum is held in gear more securely, this motor did pretty well in racing when tuned by Ten Kate for Supersport class. To date I think an F3 star is the best base to work from as it has the best of both worlds, 1) detent roller in full contact with star when in gear, hence no need for a heavy return spring, 2) May work mint as is, but I plan to slightly mod the peaks, they don't need much work at all. Shift drum end bearings are the same part number in an F3 & 5G so I know it'll defo fit a 5G drum, just need to confirm the location pin & shift pins are in the correct orientation as a 5G star, it should be an improvement over a stock 5G star & for very little money compared to a F/Pro star. Just gotta round up some other bits n bobs before I delve into the motor. Note to self: " take tons of pics to update this thread". Happy Xmas guys 👍
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Ha, nice. Any bikes on that list that are also on your "want to have one someday" list?
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Sounds awesome! Can’t wait to hear all the wild stories from your Yellow Peril adventures—sounds like a fun ride!
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UPDATE - turns out that the ST cables that I had purchased in 2022 are the 1300 ones, and not the 1100 ones. I had even started a thread on a comparison of the two cables for the 5th Gen which I totally forgot about 🙄........Post Covid Brain Fog sucks! The best advice came from SEBSPEED. I posted a couple of links about the Japanese police VFR800P bikes with the high handlebars if anybody is interested. The ST1300 cables do have a minor length issue which has been pointed out by SEBSPEED and Gaz66 above, but they are usable if one does not have access to 'perfect' cables like the Webike ones. AnikMankar did use the ST1100 cables with his Helibars and has posted images of this elsewhere on this forum.
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May I suggest you avoid the RDW-station in Waddinxveen? With an import from outside the EU, inspection is more thorough/involved. I am not a gynecologist but I know a C... when I see one..
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Hi, it's me. The guy with the weirdest issues ever. It's a long story, but has been resolved. Enjoy. I bought the bike for cheap with 57k km, four and a half years ago. I changed the plugs at 72k km. Noticed the plug on no.2 cylinder was white. Assumed it's running lean on that cylinder. Had the injectors ultrasonically cleaned, changed the vacuum hoses and thought it would fix it. It didn't. Continued riding and thinking what else could be wrong. I bought a set of Chinese injectors for testing. No change. Swapped the OEM injectors back. Swapped the injector subharness and the whole electrical harness chasing one other issue. No change to the plugs. Did the valve clearance check and adjustment and starter valve sync. Compression was fine, slightly lower in cylinder 2 but only around 5%, not enough to sound an alarm in my head. I added the Rapid bike racing and wideband lambda sensor for tuning purposes as I upgraded the bike in many ways. Through testing and logging confirmed that he cylinder no2 is not lean. In fact it's pretty much spot on. Fast forward to this spring, I turned the bike on in the garage, let it warm up a bit while I put on the rest of my gear. Garage is not very well lit and I noticed the cylinder no2 header glowing. The picture is overly dramatic as the phone can pick up more infrared light and show it as red compared to our eyes. Still, it was visibly glowing, just not as much as the pics show. I confirmed my observations with an IR thermometer. The cyl no2 header was 100-150C hotter than the cylinder no.4 at all times, even during warmup it heated up much quicker. Took the sparkplugs out again. Much worse than before. This was around 90k km. Went on the hunt again. Swapping coil position, swapping plug position, swapping injector position, put Chinese injectors in again, confirmed the AFR was good by adjusting fueling and moving the wideband sensor from bung to bung, confirmed that the injector pulses were right and as reported by rapidbike software using an oscilloscope. Tested the OEM injector flow rate by making a DIY flow measuring device. Confirmed the flow is identical across all injectors by weighing the amount of fuel sprayed by activating all injectors simultaneously trough a makeshift harness. Couldn't get to the bottom of it. I gave up again, packed it all up and continued riding trough the spring and summer season. I noticed if I hammer on the bike on the highway the oil level drops. I assumed it's evaporation from extreme heat and high oil temp. Also, it's an old engine, closing in on 100k km so I thought a small amount of oil consumption at extreme loads isn't weird. Continued hammering on it. After one very hard ride thought the twisties I used the highway to get back home quicker. Blasted it to top speed and continued hammering at 180-200km/h for 40km. The Fi light turned on, I stopped it blinked the code for crank position sensor. The bike started cutting out briefly at random moments. I disconnected the rapid bike system, the Fi light went away and the bike didn't cut out anymore. Could at least ride safely. The idle dropped however. Felt like it was running on 3 to 3.5 cylinders. Got home, took the sparkplugs out. The no2 sparkplug has melted away. I lowered a boroscope into the cylinders. Piston no2 had tons of carbon deposits. The valve recesses were rounded off by thick deposits, hardly distinguishable. The circular protrusion that was visible on other pistons wasn't visible on piston no2. For reference this is how other cylinders looked. This is where I finally found the source of the issue. It all clicked. The slightly lower compression is a sign of cylinder and/or ring wear. It lets oil into the cylinder, mostly noticable at prolonged high loads. It accumulates deposits. They increase compression a lot, which leads to premature ignition and extreme temps. The headers glow, the sparkplug goes white and eventually melts. I bought PROTEC P4650 CX Carbon X combustion chamber cleaner and went to work. Took 10-15 cycles of cleaning but eventually it cleaned up. I helped break up the deposits by inserting a bottle cleaning brush in the cylinder and spinning it around. It really helped a lot. Here's a pic during cleaning process. In the end it was fully clean, just a shiny piston crown. I checked the valves. The extreme heat wore the valve seat on the exhaust side. I adjusted the normal exhaust valve on cylinder no2. Fortunately the compression stayed the same, the valve itself didn't burn. Other valves were fine after 25k km. With the cleaning done, oil changed and new sparkplugs in it fired right up. No Fi light, no cutting, idle restored, headers didn't glow and IR thermometer confirmed the temps are similar between all cylinders. Took it for a test ride, everything was fine. Connected back the Rapid bike system once I confirmed everything works. Wow, Rapid bike really makes a huge difference. Took it for a second test ride. Made sure to blast it on the highway. Took the sparkplugs out after 70km of mixed riding and a 30km highway blast. Sparkplug was brown-ish like it should be. Lowered the boroscope in the cylinder no2. Deposits already started forming. The circle on the piston crown wasn't visible. The deposits form on the center first. It is what it is. The engine runs great again. I'll use the fuel additive every now and then to help clean the deposits. I think the additive will work well on fresh deposits. Old, dry and crusty deposits need harsh chemical cleaning and mechanical agitation. Fresh, wet deposits might clean up with only the fuel additive. If needed I'll buy another set of Protec K1+K2 combustion chamber cleaner and clean it again in a year or two. Engine rebuild is prohibitively expensive, it's better to buy a used engine. If I find one for a good price I'll buy it. For now this engine will do the job.
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Sometimes you just get a big surprise Watching this YouTube Video of 19 oddball motorcycle's left my mouth open My old TRX 850! Not a video I have posted through, a owner after me. But you can't say it's not my old TRX, there ain't 2 in yellow whit those front turn signals, twin headlights and gpz600 mirrors 😁
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Yellow Peril build thread!!?😛
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Not the usual smoke/mirrors/AI bot/photo shop/Nigerian scammer drivel. Fingers crossed also.
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It's a Christmas miracle. Looking forward to reading about your adventures on the yellow peril.
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Yesterday on YouTube HRC MotoGP released an audio clip of: "The first sound of new era" "The 850cc MotoGP is here" Well, it's new a V4
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A Christmas present for the Transalp has arrived Will look nice on it after it's painted in 1987 white color 👌
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Thanks for sharing Fabio. There's nothing like a little quality time on a motorcycle to help sort out one's thoughts and emotions. It is my preferred type of therapy.
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Hi Sirbike! I remember the name from the ST1300 site and also met you when you stopped out to help me with some ST questions. Cool to see you here! I have since sold the ST1300 and gotten a 2014 Valkyrie and 2010 VFR1200F. Jim
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Has my VFR750 been lowered at the rear ?
Captain 80s replied to Smarty750's question in Modification Questions
My RC26 build, I initially used CBR triples. Pretty much maxed out what the swingarm could take as far as rear ride height and has short CBR forks. Also zero sign of instability, at any speed. Frequently got the front end air-born at near triple digits on a particular stretch of road. No drama at all when the tire came back down. I switched to 41mm VFR triples, but not because of any dislike of the handling. Only because the lower triple was designed to interact properly with the frame stops. The bike got "livelier" at low/moderate speeds with the VFR triples. Still rock solid at any speed.
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Santa (or is that Sinterklaas?) came early this year! After over a year in transit and storage (and importing company hassles), my yellow bike is finally in its new home in the Netherlands. I hope the change in weather isn't too much of a shock for the old girl... As this is the only bike I have here, and it's now officially winter, I think I will take this opportunity to finish the brake and suspension upgrades. It's already cleared customs, so inspection and registration in NL can probably wait for a few months. I have an SP1 front end (with a matching Pearl Yellow mudguard from some sort of CBR900RR, I believe) and will do the same de-linking and brake-line-through-the-swing-arm I did last year on the blue bike in London. I'll also swap the Compufire reg/rec (don't ask) for a proper Shindengen SH847 and finally trim the RHS fairing to clear the supercharger belt. However, I've noticed that the tires have great tread...but have a DOT code from 2008! Ciao, JZH
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Has my VFR750 been lowered at the rear ?
JZH replied to Smarty750's question in Modification Questions
Might have to do with the fact that the VFRs (RC36 and RC46, anyway) all have a 40mm fork offset to start with, whereas the CBR900 and VTR1000 have 30mm offset. (VFR1200 splits the difference at 35mm.) Thus, raising the rear of a typical VFR nudges it towards/into sport bike territory--without straying into the steering-damper zone... Ciao, JZH -
Oh... I guess it could have fallen into the wrong box of parts, lol. (Better to learn that now than when I'm all set to install it in my 5th gen!) Cheers, JZH
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Few things to say: Stainless bolts into aluminum is a big no-no. Look up galvanic corrosion. You can try coating them in some kind of anti-sieze, but my experience is that doesn't work all that well on stuff that doesn't get dis/re-assembled on a regular basis. Screw extractors don't work all that well on small, soft, fused stainless fasteners. You don't want to end up in reverse drill bit Heli-Coil land. I have some hard plastic wedges for popping covers off without gouging them. They work well, and are dirt cheap so easily replaced when they fail. Wood works well too in a pinch. A chisel X-Acto blade works great for scraping gaskets, and is more forgiving than a hardened scraper on aluminum. Clean the crud off before you start work so you don't become a human rag. Other than that looks great!
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Very informative write up.👍
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And that bike, if wrapped in VFR style bodywork with suitable sport touring ergos could be the thing we'd all hoped for; all day comfort, sporting intent, less mass and more power and torque. We will see.....
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I saw this story and ran here to see if anyone commented on it. I’d love this to be true but Honda is definitely releasing a V3 with an electric supercharger next year. Why would they also go for a V4?
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VF500F2 Aka MBD Incubation Period At Least 52 Years
Dutchy replied to Dutchy's topic in Earlier VFRs
Quiet in the office at 07:15 Still a looker 31 years on..
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Cool thread, @Gaz66. Sounds like you’re in the UK, and I’ve just gutted a Factory Pro star kit to my 5th Gen. if you want my old star and arm you can have them free - just cover postage. I’ve seen people modify these by rounding the peaks. This helps the shift happen faster, but you need a stronger spring to stop it popping out. Roller bearing also helps. Guy on YouTube does it freehand - it’s not rocket science. I’d just use a bench grinder with a flat plate. PM me your details and I’ll get it to you. Send your number and we can talk it through.
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Juniper Pass
I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.
I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.
Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado
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Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain
From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped
Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs
Idaho Springs Colorado
Mashtuns and fermenters
Rows of fermenters
I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS
Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road
There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!
I did stop for pictures in all the best spots
Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate
Elephant Butte Park and Denver
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Veefalo on Squaw Pass
Juniper Pass
Juniper Pass
Mount Evans
My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers
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I Am Back !
Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.
Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.
My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.
With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.
So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.
Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since
Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.
I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:
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I think that you might not know how to post videos. You're in your YT studio in these links. You need the link to the actual video.
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