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First ride of the season and the side of the road.
mello dude replied to trmoyer's topic in Fifth Generation VFR's
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I have to say it’s been pretty much a trouble free 5 years. But today, the first ride of the season we made it 22 miles before rolling to a stop on the side of the road. I put a new battery (always on a Tender) in it a couple weeks ago when I changed the oil getting things ready for the season. Five years ago I upgraded the RR with an FA020AA (kit) from Jacks and life has been pretty good considering the age of the bike. So later I’ll unload it from the trailer, charge the battery, run “the drill” and see if the stator gave up or if the RR had enough. The RR was HOT when I put my finger on it lol, yup I did that………
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Make sure the holes on the backing plates are centered with brake pads holes also. As far off centered as they looked, that was the problem IMO.
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If it were my bike, I would put the backing plates back on with a smear of copper grease both sides and see what happens. The backing plates are there for anti-squeal as well as heat dissipation. I have some doubts that your Honda guys will know any better if you've already checked everything over; could be money wasted.
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Hi, I have a 5th gen vfr800 that after a coolant change was overheating in standstill. this lead to me going through the coolant system, I replaced the thermostat with OEM, I pressure tested the system and fixed any leaks and it holds at 16psi. I replaced the radiator cap because it wasn’t holding pressure with a stant 10223 as recommended by someone on a forum. I am sure the water pump works as if the bikes hot and sitting off, when I turn the bike on (pump starts moving) the temp drops as if it’s getting recirculated. The fan turns on at exactly 219F so I am sure it’s not a fan issue either. When the bike reads hot it feels hot so I don’t think it’s a poor temp sensor either. At this point I have no ideas, the bike runs fine gets to topspeed no issue but it runs hot. By hot I mean 206-209F on highway in 6th gear cruising at 80. I rarely see less than 200 now which was not an issue before my very initial coolant change. I am using standard green coolant. Please help I have no idea what to check now.
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Good progress! They do make silicone that isn't bright orange. 😉 Yes, hammer and chisel for the round cover works great.
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Hi again, just been out to check to see what size master cylinder in on the bike and its a 14mm where as the CBR600F4i is a 5/8", so do I need a 5/8" or a bigger bore master cylinder, say like an 11/16" or a 7/8? My GPZ900R has dual 4 pot calipers and the master cylinder is a 5/8" and the lever is great on that. Cheers.
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Today I did adjust the rear brake pedal of the Transalp as it was adjusted way to low for me, then early afternoon a spin on local twisty road's And I just have to stop in a special cafe, this time for a ice cream
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Cheers for your reply. I never even thought about the master cylinder being down on pumping pressure with the added pistons, but now that you have mentioned it then it does make a lot of sense 👍. I'll be looking for a replacement master cylinder and giving it a go. Once again cheers for the info.
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When you say delinked, you mean the fronts are now 3 pots on front lever ? Has the MC been updated ? If Vtec is same as 5th gen then the MC is too small when you have 6 pistons to move. The calculations are simple area of combined pistons/area of MC=X where X should be around 15. Assuming 4x 1" pistons on the Vtec originally & a 1/2" MC gives 16/1 ratio. If you add in 2 more 1" pistons it drops to 24/1 ratio, which means lots more lever travel before high pressure is built. The flex you are seeing is a red herring, they all do that before high pressure is built. You can't use VTR sliders on a 6th gen, they are 41mm bore & the 6th gen forks are 43mm. You could use CBR600F4 sliders and full brake system.
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In Spain, a member in the vfr forum they've done it before, and the conclusion was that at low RPM it didn't work very well, but overall the performance was very good, although ECU adjustment would be necessary. This person simply activated the spool valve using a circuit they designed themselve. If anyone's interested, I can share the information about. -
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Good job!! Ho del metallo che devo forare per realizzare i tappi sul fondo del serbatoio. Purtroppo ho poco tempo e il lavoro procede a rilento. A proposito di filtri, il filtro originale in dotazione con la pompa costa una fortuna, avete alternative? Dopo il trattamento, è facile che rimangano residui anche pulendo tutto a fondo, quindi stavo pensando di cambiarlo dopo un po', ma devo trovare un'alternativa più economica. Ma cosa ha di così speciale il filtro originale che costa così tanto?
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Some work on the RC24's this morning, after adjusting the brake pedal on the Transalp first. I have been letting my thoughts of my 2 RC24's grow slowly, the issues are the Devil exhaust that doesn't allow to raise the tail as the north American version that I had thoughts to keep quiet orginal that has a 5mm longer shock... So as good orginal exhaust is not easy awable for descent money I also has had a thought of selling the red one, but don't know.... Anyway one thing I made my mind up on, and it's that after all I will not change the oil pump chain now, reason is even it has some play everywhere I read about oil pump chains they have some slack so don't think this has to much. So decided to put clutch back as cover. Before starting whit that I did take the center stand hold tube out and put it in right way as mount the spring tab I had bought I sure would like to get a correct spring also but not available... As you take off old gasket you have to be creative to not let bits that come off go into engine Then mount the clutch as starter clutch. I also noticed that a former owner has taken the clutch cover off not so pro like, actually damageing the engine block a bit.... The bit was in the rubber, so even I don't prefer using gasket glue, I now had to at this spot, it's mainly to not let water as dust in to start corrosion thro, the surface towards engine internals is good So cover is on, noticed the oil level stick O ring was missing so added a new one And I do have one thing to sort, but wand to get a new one first... The round small cover in clutch cover has the hex rounded so slips, so need to get it off someway, on the red there was same issue but it I got off by heating the clutch cover and hammer whit a screwdriver on outer edge. After this the silencers will be mounted back whit theses that got in the mail during the week So project goes on
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Having just had my VTEC bits apart the underside of the bucket is formed into shim shape as part of the casting so the net effect must be quite similar to the CB400, just with one less part. Maybe they were concerned about the shim becoming dislodged? The VTEC spring does hold the VTEC sliding pin hard up into the bucket so I'm not sure how it could ever come out but someone at Honda must have been concerned. The CB400 design would certainly make a shim change a cheap proposition as the VTEC buckets are US$27 each and I needed 6... -
I am pretty sure that you could weld the sliding parts under the buckets into the latched position so the VTEC valves are always engaged. It would be irreversible however. The ECM is only sending out the signal to the VTEC solenoid to send oil pressure to the VTEC area so I can't see that would matter at all. The fueling might not be too good without some correction.
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That's a good tip to use nuts. Once you have the parts in your hand you realise that any suitable piece of hard material would do the job as the spring that is compressed is not stiff and the bucket holds it all together. I also ordered 4 x 2.72, along with 2 x 2.76, and I moved a couple of the 2.86 buckets that were already there. I will keep Impex in mind, thanks.
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Subject near and dear to my heart. When I bought my 2002 VFR800 in 2020 with about 12,000 miles in apparently pristine condition, I was happy as a clam. Upon my first fill up, I found a tank full of rust (shame on me for not checking before buying). So,I used water, Simple Green cleaner and a short length of chain to scrub out the worst of the rust. I then fabricated a couple of a blockoff plates with some aluminum sign scrap I had and some old bicycle inner tube material as gaskets, Dried the tank and quickly filled it with a few gallons of cider vinegar. Left it for a couple of days and it came out nice and pretty. Fuel pump was fine, but needless to say, I changed the fuel filter. As for chelating agents, believe it not (you can look it up), molasses does a great job of that and is totally non-toxic and actually smells nice (if you like molasses). Don't know about the availability of molasses in Italy, but here in the US, Tractor Supply stores have it in bulk for animal feed. Have a sealed bucket in my garage that I soaked a bunch of rusty RD350 parts in, and while they did not come out bright and shiny, they came out rust free. Very sticky, though. 😀
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Hi guys, I've been trying to get a decent lever on the front brakes of my '02 Vtec, but it doesn't matter how I try and bleed them I still end up with a spongy feeling lever. The brakes have been "de-linked" and the whole system has had new seals and has 2 Hel lines fitted. I had the calipers hanging up above the bike whilst bleeding and bleeding one caliper at a time fitted to the master cylinder, the lever is better but still not as firm as it should be. After spending a good few hours today I think I have found the reason why the lever always feels spongy...... When the lever is pulled the rear part of the caliper that is mounted to the main part of the caliper by the 3 bolts is actually flexing, hence why the brakes feel spongy. The brakes are quite good when needed but they don't inspire confidence at all. I am going to try and find some different fork bottoms that have proper calipers fitted, I think VTR ones are a straight swap while still using the original chrome stanchions. So if anyone else is having issues with spongy brakes on your VFR check the calipers for flexing. Sorry for the long post guys. . All reactions: 11
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I still wonder how a 6th would run if the VTEC valves were forced to operate throughout the rev range. Alas, my mechanical skills are not up to MacGyver'ing something like that. And it may be that the ECM wouldn't like it. -
Take a close look at the wiring diagram for your VFR. The clutch switch is tied to the side stand switch and both are connected to the ECM. Does your neutral light illuminate/extinguish when you shift into/out of neutral? One wire from the clutch switch changes colour to Green/Red and goes to the starter relay, located under the seat adjacent other the battery. Check the condition of the starter relay and all the wires connected to it. 5th Gen wiring diagram in VFRD Downloads:
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Bike wont start (without some help) after injector/ fpr swap.
NorthernV4 replied to NorthernV4's question in Modification Questions
Progress was made. It still wont start without throttle and is dying if i let the throttle go until the error code reappear (maybe 15 seconds) then it idle normally now. I took for a brief ride and it seems normal. I may have got screwed over with this used FPR. I think i'll try the new Herko one for what it cost. Can a bad FPR cause 2 blink MAP error code? Also, i can move this part (circled in blue) with my fingers but it feels gummy and stiff. Should it be really loose and free?
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Spectacular! Initially I thought about trying vinegar, but then you convinced me to use citric acid. Soon I'll go buy the ingredients and prepare the product, but first I'll test it on another small tank of a motor pump that has the same problem. Another question, could the treatment with citric acid ruin the external paint of the tank? Because inside it is rusty, but outside it is in very good condition and I don't want to run the risk of ruining it.
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The citric/soda/soap solution will take care of that rust no problem, and will not touch the paint. Before & after 24 hour soak:
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Good afternoon All, Just checking if anyone knows the correct code for the silver paint used on the forks and frame and also the wheels on a 2005 VFR 800 A5 - panel colour is PB332 pearl heron blue? Any help much appreciated.
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The Last Day Of Good Riding Weather
Juniper Pass
I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.
I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.
Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado
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Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain
From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped
Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs
Idaho Springs Colorado
Mashtuns and fermenters
Rows of fermenters
I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS
Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road
There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!
I did stop for pictures in all the best spots
Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate
Elephant Butte Park and Denver
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Veefalo on Squaw Pass
Juniper Pass
Juniper Pass
Mount Evans
My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers
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I Am Back !
Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.
Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.
My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.
With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.
So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.
Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since
Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.
I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:
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I think that you might not know how to post videos. You're in your YT studio in these links. You need the link to the actual video. -
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