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  2. Doing this You are accomplishing nothing due to fact that PAIR valves are doing their job to prevent CAT over burn in lower throttle engine regime. As well, exhaust valves and engine head are cooled by that air as well. PAIR does not work under more revs cause there is much bigger pressure from exhaust so air is not injected into exhaust stream. Is does not make your mixture lean or similar....is just preventing CAT to over burn and mixes with unburned HC in lower RPM. When You need power in higher rpm....PAIR valves do not work so unpluging this thing does not do nothing to engine higher portion of output when you need one. If You don believe me, test it , open PAIR valves cover and start the engine...and rev it. As well...there is bigger problem if you don't clean these valves regularly cause exhaust fumes can come inside intake and that you have a lack of oxy in intake. It becomes similar shit like EGR. I mean, test it yourself if you don believe me.
  3. I could not hear a tick on your sound bite. Grab a peice of wooden dowl or wood bit and put it on the area where the sound is coming from and the other end to your ear (or a stethoscope if you have one). You may be able to narrow the sound down or compair sides.
  4. A request to those of you who are well versed in these things: Bike is 2018 800X (8th Gen engine) with 60k miles. Regular oil changes (Castrol) but only 1 valve clearance check at 24k miles in Sep 22 by a Honda dealer with all shims in spec. I have just finished prepping her for sale including oil change and I hear this noise from top of the front bank LH side. Voice 260222_091208.m4a Thanks in advance.
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  6. A bit of a ramble to start. I am no expert, just saying this now, as you read this you will know. lol. I plan to share my paint and body journey. I hope I can make it to the finish by doing all the work myself without spending stupid money on a old bike. I want to keep it real. My goal is to get close to a professional looking job from 3 feet away. Please add your knowledge if you are a painter. Colour choice is another thing. I would like black but it shows everything so I am leaning to a Kawasaki or Porche shade of blue but that changes weekly. I have a few bikes that need cowl stays straightened along with body and paint. I have done the plastic repair and stays straigtened but have never painted. Getting the paint done by a pro would cost porhibitive to me and I would guess to most. I have done the plastic repair on 3 cowl parts with Plastex and an ABS base repair. Thanks to tech and the internet plastic repair is now easier than ever. There are a tons of videos on paint and can be confusing on which way to go. I do not want to do a rattle can job. As I have a realively mid sized compressor I have decided to go with a R500 low pressure, low volune paint gun. As I understand it the guns are okay for the DYI guy and are not expensive. I'll give it a go and poslish the shit out of any panels that get orange peel. I think I am looking at a clear/base type paint but I am still researching what paint to use and who supplys it here. The other thing is not having a spray booth. You can buy the fan blow up type portable unit but I want to build a "shed" where I can store 2 bikes and paint if this works out. My plan is to start with a foundation and floor this year and for now use plastic for the rest. Plans change (PC), I may find another spot to paint but we will see. I don't see me painting inside as my garage is full so I am looking at summer as a timeline but again PC sometimes. So sanding, filling and sanding is next. I have a electric sander, pneumatic sander and a block to take that on. So this part of the rebuild begins. Picture one is the worst of the plastic damage. Picture 2 is removing the side cowl decals defore sanding.
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  8. Yep, i have done the job, took everything out, just don't have the time to make an new post about it. , Engine is assembled, full of conserving oil and waiting for it's turn in garage. Maybe some mild sandblasting of Valve covers and some parts are going to be done due to repaint job, but engine is ready for relese to service 🙂
  9. You can easily experiment with the PAIR system just by unplugging the solenoid at the right rear of the airbox. I do think my 6th gen 2009 has less surging just ahead of the VTEC transition; with PAIR enabled it sometimes almost had the feeling of running out of gas. I have completely removed the PAIR system now and fitted blanking plates. I am not a believer in disabling the flapper but again, a test is as easy as either pulling the connector off the solenoid valve or (easier) pull the vacuum hose off the actuator on the airbox lid and bung the vacuum hose so it can't leak. In my seat-of-the-pants experience the flapper is more about noise than performance.
  10. Checking VTEC valve clearace doesn't seem to be especially common, with the engine out of the frame it is an easier job but you still have to take out the cams and refit them to do the measurements. I also had 7 VTEC valves out of spec, one intake only had 0.05mm (min spec 0.12mm), and I needed to buy 6 new buckets. It may be my imagination but the VTEC transition seems to be much smoother after the adjustment.
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  12. I decided to open a new topic, cause this is a topic for itself. I have recently bought spare engine and decide to inspect it, renew it and give it a "Whole 9 Yards" of maintenance. From my point of view, it is easier to have a good spare engine and just make a swap while other engine is for checks and overhaul and meanwhile, You can enjoy your ride on Your VFR. I have bought engine from 2002 with stated 24k km. Well....you can't be sure in somebody statement so i was ready to do a complete overhaul on that engine. It's not a SF....well, not to me anyhow. So this is how the story goes....bought it from Germany and there was a problem with delivery...of course...but it arrived after 1 month period. In all this, just for the record, I work in Aviation industry for 30 years as well I build Mini Jet engines for hobby so I am familiar with a lot of things regarding these stuff ....engines, electronics, mechanical engineering and so on. I same how believe that a ordinary person does not think like me in these things. I just like to be always on the safe side and things have to work no matter the time or cost. Back to the engine....since i am in love in V4 engines, i had to do initial inspection and at first glance...it looked ok. More or less clean but oil filter had mark on it that last oil change was done in 2019.....well that is not good but...oil was inside the engine so that was something. First thing that i inspected as well is starter and than engine compression. Table for inspection values is attached as a picture. Starter was as good as new, by the condition of it, I would say that there is some minor use of this engine , starter had almost new brushes, and rotor collector was with witness marks only, no severe use that gave me hope that ODO can be real. Next thing was engine compression test. The engine is excellent; compression is equal across all cylinders at 150 PSI, although my 20Ah spare battery isn't great and cranks it... right on the limit. The spark plugs look good, slightly carbon-fouled, but it just needs a good 'Italian tune-up.' You can see from the pistons that they are a bit black as well. The crosshatch (honing marks) is clearly visible on the cylinder walls, very rich and dense. The valves are in great shape—the exhaust valves are all identical, while the intake valves show minimal wear. I am not measuring the VTEC valves at this point. The camshafts are excellent, with no scoring or signs of wear on the hardened layer. The water pump looks good, and the thermostat is perfect. Based on everything seen here, this engine has a long future ahead of it; it definitely hasn't done more than those alleged 24,000 km. I've finished by spraying oil into the cylinders since it will be sitting for a while. There are a few minor scuffs on the cylinders, but that doesn't worry me; the engine needs to run for a while before I can know more. Overall... an excellent buy for the price of a washing machine. I have recharged my battery for 2nd Compression measurements... I hooked up a battery and it's immediately better— measurement shows all cylinders around 170 PSI. Engine has compression limits from 142-178PSI and I would say that this engine has a bright future 🙂 As well i had to go and measure VTEC valves and there i found some problems ...all exhaust VTEC valves are out of tolerances....which can be 1 of 2 things...either engine was reved high usually or it was not adjusted at time and engine has more on ODO. More to come 🙂
  13. Hi again Qtip (cool screen name) Re: Odd F/pump sound: Seen all manner of corner cuts when it comes to in-tank pumps & filters, spare key is handy, if not you can finagle key out of fuel cap (Google it), torch is handy, flick kill switch a few times, any visible bubbles from pump & you've got problems, hose leak, split hose, split filter. Split fuel hoses normally create a weird whooshing kinda noise, bike usually won't start due to fuel pressure being lost inside the tank. Honda fit same filter on several injected models, avoid early style filters, these had a straight inlet & outlet, so required a curved U-bend hose which tends to split over time, Honda redesigned filter & built the U-bend section on the filter, only needs straight hoses, Honda hoses are silly money. Cohline 2240-R9 spec, 8mm ID in-tank hose is the highest spec hose I've found, it's Viton lined inside & out, reinforced for high pressure in-tank use, resistant to E85, I assume 85% ethanol? who knew? I had to look it up, seems many modern cars in the USA run on E85, hose needs to be high spec (FKM-Viton) inside & out, some sellers just take the piss & charge silly money, managed to source 2metres for less money than the two small hoses from Honda, gorra do some Googlin & shop around. If u do delve into the tank, just beware of sellers pedalling the wrong hose for in-tank use, most fuel hose can't tolerate being submerged in petrol, hence the info above. Eg) I bought some from a Hose supplier via eBay, seller listed it as in-tank ethanol resistant R9 spec, I messaged seller to check spec prior to purchase, seller confirm listing info, ordered 2 metres, cut off an inch test piece & soaked it in E5 for a week, hose was clearly being attacked, the whole test piece had swollen a couple of mm & bits of the outer casing were shedding off, seller refused to accept my findings even after I showed photo evidence, so be super careful you by the right hose. I found Genuine Pan 1100 filters with the later U-bend are the same part, often available quite a bit cheaper than a VFR listed filter, got one shipped from Japan to UK via eBay for just over half the price of a VFR listed filter bought in the UK, WTF? crazy how some stuff is priced. I'd replace filter & both hoses & rubber base gasket as a matter of course, future proof it, avoid re-using the pump mounting rubber gasket, high chance it'll piss gas everywhere (don't ask how I know) 🫣 Weird noises from the in-tank pump can also be a split fuel hose, this is normally a whooshing kinda noise, more often than not the bike won't start due to fuel pressure being lost inside the tank. Mine's a 99/5Gen (No Cat), yours a 2002, so that would make it a 6Gen (Cat fitted) if it was a UK bike, I'd expect UK & Oz bikes to be exact same spec, or is yours a late registered 5Gen? Re "Pair" removed: Mine now pulls more cleanly from idle to redline, these 800's have an uneven firing order & can run quite lumpy thru the low rpm range in stock form, since fitting a (Sprint) air filter, setting the starter valves & junking the "Pair" gubbins, it cleaned up the woolly bottom end & pulls cleaner all thru the rev range, flappers gone to. Personally I'd leave the snorkel fitted, cold air intake wins over hot air every time. You'll soon pick up useful, knowledge from this forum, plenty of knowledgeable guys on here . 👍
  14. Nice work, i have to check my cooling system, it might look yours as well.
  15. I have identical problem with my engine and coolant hoses and found culprit. These fittings have seem from casting which have to be polished, otherwise you will have a leak. I bought New on and i have polished it to have nice round surface. This is the reason why these machines need to be check carefully and completely, not just change the fluid but rather remove everything and put it back together. Of course, that is how I do it. Refurbish everything if You want them to run perfectly.
  16. UPDATE 260222 Folks, here's the new update. NISSIN MCBS19 brake pump Of course... I couldn't refrain from that 😁 TAPERED STEERING BEARINGS To properly cool down the bottom yoke, I put it into the freezer with the dog's meat 😆 A slight warm up to the bearing... et voilà! With the new bearings in place, it's time for... TOP YOKE "DR. ERGAL DESIGN" It doesn't weight significantly less than the OEM unit, but it allows me to remove the key block, bringing the weight loss to a good point: And here it is COOLING SYSTEM MOD I removed thermostatic valve and deleted the bypass line. Any dead line has been closed with silicone caps Thermostatic OFF Lines closed with caps: In the nex days I'll going to get some time to install this big boy 😏
  17. I poked around the shop a little today. I started putting coolant hoses together with some parts. Was a little surprised at the revealing of this pipe. Ordering a new one. Next I made pair block off plates. Not having delicate tools or fancy machinery, a sawzall and a grinder didn’t make for an award winning look but they will work fine. 3/16” aluminum sheet. The tires have good tread. Today I noticed the build dates. 1013 and 4015. I found my VFR rear wheel balancing jig. Yes!
  18. The VFR80fi is a lot lighter feeling than the previous K75s. And zippier too! 😉
  19. Second owner for 16 years. Never down. Always covered. Clean Title. Well maintained for a decade+ by Jim at Honda Fremont. 2 min. walkthrough and start video (sweet V4 sounds) - Craigslist ad - https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/d/fremont-2000-honda-vfr800-rare-yellow/7916941426.html Location: Fremont, CA Contact: PM me at VFRWorld, but faster response likely from CL ad. Looks great, runs strong and low miles for a VFR that was actually ridden on all bay area twisties. $5000 Test rides with full cash (in my hand) and valid M1 endorsement only. Tasteful mods made 10+ years ago and still working fine: - VFRNess and voltmeter to monitor charging system (see video) - Heated grips (see video) - Headlight modulator (see video) - Brake light modulator (see video) - Taller, tinted windscreen - Mirror extenders - Adjustable levers - Stebel horn (loud) - 12v outlet (see video) - Battery tender connection
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  21. A venison burger in the air fryer, carbs in the ultrasonic cleaner. Or was it the other way round 🤔 Anyway everything came out ok 😉
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    That right there is a wonderful ride, sights, sounds, smells & have some fun with the bike!
  23. Ha ha....it still works and keeps all the fluids inside! There's always a nervous moment when you flick the ignition on and wait for the error messages to pop up!
  24. Hi all, I have just downloaded the 2 files and have been quoted just under £80 UK pounds to get these printed, anyone else had these done, are they a good fit?
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  26. I liked them but found them no improvement over the excellent Metzeler Roadtecs for the extra money.
  27. Lucky me. I found a local shop that allows people to use their space and equipment. They check you out first to make sure you have a good idea of what you are doing. I got set up at a small welding table with a vise and oxy-acetyene torch and I went to town. It took me 30 minutes to get the bends right. Double the time I thought it would take. I did a test fit with the gauges and front cowl and all looks good. One tip to the less experienced is to have a set of dies and taps to clean up corrupt threads. You don't want to mess up or cross thread those little brass looking inserts on the front cowl attachment points at the gauge cluster and windshield attachment points or anywhere else. I am s firm believer of "chasing threads". The plastic repair is complete so now on to the body work.
  28. This company in France has fastener kits for lots of bike models: https://avdb-moto.fr/shop/en/specific-complete-fairings-hardware-kit-avdb/6004-58307-specific-hardware-kit-for-fairings-avdb-honda-vfr-800-vtec-2002-2013.html#/1624-colour-silver I have never done business with them so I don' t know about the quality.
  29. Hey guys, I'm in need of an idle adjuster cable, pictured below. I have a set that was in a fire and the cable is roached. Spring not necessary. Also always in search of Gen-2 and Gen-3 carb parts or whole sets in need of TLC. Thanks, Joe joe.nelson@ymail.com (ymail, not gmail 😉)
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      Juniper Pass

      I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.

       

       

       

       

      I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.

       

       

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      Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado

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      Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain

      From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped

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      Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs

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      Idaho Springs Colorado

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      Mashtuns and fermenters

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      Rows of fermenters

      I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS

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      Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road

      There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!

      I did stop for pictures in all the best spots

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      Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate

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      Elephant Butte Park and Denver

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      Veefalo on Squaw Pass

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      Juniper Pass

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      Juniper Pass

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      Mount Evans

      My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers

       

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      Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.

      Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.

      My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.

      With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.

      So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.

      Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since smile.gif

      Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.

      I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:

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