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I recall how good it felt to finally solve an electrical issue on my ‘86(took weeks), congratulation & kudos 😅
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The weather currently looks perfect for a spin. I'm open to a long local ride east of Charlotte or Morganton. Chime in if you're interested.
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OK, For all that have been following my posts on this Frankenbike., I finally nailed it down. Today I removed the stator cover just to convince myself of the rotor size and to have a "feel" at the magnets. The 2 rotor sizes are 107mm OD and 115 OD, Mine has the smaller. The larger ones are fitted from 2003. My bike must have been the earlier one. Anyway, the stator looked nice and clean with no visible scorch marks. So looking at the wiring from the stator to where I soldered the new 12g wires just outside the end casing it all looked ok but did notice prior to refitting the cover that there was evidence of a blackish burn mark on the cable securing clip inside the cover. This I removed to have a look and found one of the wires had been trapped and cut into and was JUST touching the clip. Service history showed a new HONDA stator less than 10k miles before me getting this bike. Unknown to me where or who fitted this but it seems they were a little heavy handed on fitting the stator. I Re-arranged the wires and insulated the 3 of them separately just to be double sure and MAGIC, I have charging voltage of 14.5V., and 14.2V with main beam and heated grips on full. That will do me , as they say. What a nightmare this journey has been. Thanks go to all who commented and answered. Now to get on with checking the brakes out and painting the fork legs. UK MOT next.
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Turns out I had to use something hard (I used the edge of a flat blade screwdriver) to push the white tab IN further until the relief tab "collapsed" into the fitting, then it slid right off. ...very unintuitive, and again, different from the connectors shown and described in the service manual; both at the tank, and the two at the fuel rail on the throttle body. Just FYI, in case anyone else runs into this.
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Today's weather prognosis was so good, Sunny as +20°C so decided to take the Transalp to work even a bit cloudy as chilly in the morning And after work a one hour detour on twisty roads What a delight!
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Other VFR and other pics....
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I dropped my tank and broke the same connector. https://www.cycleterminal.com/250-housing-lance.html <<-- Where to get a new connector. Before: After:
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Testing the ac w/bulb could show a phase that’s weaker in output but you should use a 60-100 watt ac(household) bulb. I believe the rotor size&stator changed 2003 on as you say, dimensions would be available from a source more knowledgeable than I am🤔 check out roadster cycle for testing procedures, he used to have lotsa tips on there, testing w/bulb being one of them…
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Thanks for the reply JZH, I have left the zip tie on and extended the wires to inlcude a Male/female Molex 2 pin plug. that way I can leave the OE plug in place and use the Molex to disconnect when taking the tank off.
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I got a load of paperwork including service history with this bike and there is an excell sheet with all things replaced on the bike . This bike had a generator less than 10K miles ago according to the guys list, ( albeit with the OE R/R). He even listed degreasing chain, coolant changes and everything with dates and mileages. pretty impressive. Would a test on the 3 phases with a 55W car bulb show any problem do you think? God I love these VFR's and have had most models from way back to FG 1988 but this one is just getting past a joke. My 1996 FT is an absolute peach and has been faultless. I notice , looking at the options for flywheels, that 2002/2003 ones are different to 2003 onward models.Flywheel/Rotor sizes seem bigger on later ones. I would need to remove stator casing to confirm the size of this one. BUT?? Are the stators the same external size?? does anyone know?? I can't find out if this bike has had the Genny recall.
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Sorry, I don't have a 6th gen, but I can almost guarantee that Honda just used a standard automotive connector there. Check out Eastern Beaver's website for pictures of common automotive connectors they have available in Japan. The owner, Jim, is a Canadian Honda owner (VFR750, among others, IIRC), and is very knowledgeable about Japanese OEM connectors. As a general rule, you can sometimes order connectors and terminals from Honda, but usually they only sell connectors attached to assemblies of parts. But, because manufacturers don't make common parts like connectors, and most are not proprietary designs, you can order them from many other sources (including China, if you're so inclined/feel lucky). I've gone through this process with Toyota and VAG and found good/alternative sources for many Sumitomo, TE, Yazaki and other brand connectors. But the first step is to accurately identify the connector itself, and go from there. FYI, the zip tie will probably outlast the bike! Ciao, JZH
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Avoid the bubbly "rosso" bits... Ciao, JZH
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Use red rubber grease, not just any oil based grease. The latter will likely bloat the rubber. Bought a jar in 1985, still not empty 40 years on. Even after lending it to my pals.
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VF500F2 Aka MBD Incubation Period At Least 52 Years
Dutchy replied to Dutchy's topic in Earlier VFRs
Pigs do fly... Dutchy drives an "American" car... Going up today...
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If the front end has been lowered (e.g. fork tubes slid up through the triples) then that raises the rear wheel further when on the stand and makes it harder to lever onto the centrestand. If you have the stock bars, the retaining circlip on the fork tubes should be in contact with the bar tops which will be in hard contact with the triple clamp. A lower-than-standard profile rear tyre would also do this but I'm not sure whether they exist (stock is 180/55, maybe a 190/50 would drop the rear profile by a few mm).
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I have a similar issue, and have posted it on VFRWorld. I dunno if links are allowed (I found this through VFRW), but here's what I've done on mine so far. https://vfrworld.com/threads/2002-vfr800-no-start.62396/#post-659138 I'm curious on what you find out, as it sounds very similar.
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Does it have stock looking silver colored triangle pieces? Otherwise could possibly have a lowering link / dog bone. Granted I use center stand on all my bikes and by no means is the VFR the easiest, but isn't what I call dificult either. Stock components as below
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Arrow pointing forward , very hard to put on centre stand
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I think stock seat height was like 31.5" or there abouts. Start by checking the triangles at the lower shock / linkage area to see which way the small arrow is pointing. Stock, the arrow is pointing forward. Some folks lower the bike by rotating the triangles to have the arrow pointing upwards.
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Hi Does anyone know where I can get a pair of decent quality 3d Vfr fairing decals in silver for a 2004 model?(UK). I don't fancy paying £130 for oem ones. Tia
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I would suspect stator fault(s) before loss of magnetic properties unless the magnets are electro type, which these aren’t. But this puzzle has come to the grasping straws stage, worth a try if another rotor handy. Years ago I had a similar low output stator & it turned out to have one coil with windings that would pass continuity/grounding tests but not actually create power. Unwinding showed a spot of corrosion about 10 turns(layers?) deep into the coil, imagine a multi stranded 12V wire with all but one strand broken, will pass continuity & voltage test but can’t really allow full power transmission.
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Recently purchased a vfr 800 vtec 2003 , bike sits low ( seat height 31”). Think it’s been lowered , what’s the best way to get it back to standard, uk bike
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Mine had the original mounts. Just sold the bike!
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Last weekend didn't work on my own bike's, helped a friend to rebuild a Suzuki 50cc moped engine (PV50) Rebuild is total, new crank, new bearing everywhere, new cylinder as piston. Also the gearbox is upgraded to 5 speed as the speed limit where I live did make importer take out 5th gear of every engine! The rebuild was not completed throw as clutch hub was to worn and needed replacement so will put it 100% together as I get that. Did also go on a ride whit Transalp on Sunday, a bit gravel roads first then stopped at a friend and from there twisty tarmac road's to our favorite cafe This friend rides a FJR, through he has a Hayabusa, TL1000S, Aprilia Capnore as 2 VF1000Fs! Today I was shocked as I arrived home Quit a box outside my door! I was waiting for the new front tire for the Transalp, and yes, inside the box was that One tire! The rear tire arrived last week, only wrapped in plastic a bit compromise on/off tires, and a bit budget to, but know the front works well if mounted opposite direction as arrow suggest! Rear is a test to see what it is, if garbage I just put the Tourance back on most likely. But a good looking couple, I need to spoon them on now, nice that the Transalp has a center stand, way more easy
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The Last Day Of Good Riding Weather
Juniper Pass
I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.
I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.
Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado
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Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain
From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped
Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs
Idaho Springs Colorado
Mashtuns and fermenters
Rows of fermenters
I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS
Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road
There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!
I did stop for pictures in all the best spots
Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate
Elephant Butte Park and Denver
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Veefalo on Squaw Pass
Juniper Pass
Juniper Pass
Mount Evans
My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers
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I Am Back !
Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.
Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.
My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.
With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.
So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.
Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since
Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.
I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:
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