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    Flat battery

    Hi Paul. OK then, given the age of the battery, as Cogswell suggested a load check of the battery should be done. And given the age of your bike, a close inspection of the Stator output connector into the R/R and the Output from the R/R conector, as well as a close look at both Maim Fuses for overheated Fuses, wiring and connections. Your charging system doesn't sound right as you state 13.4v at the battery engine running or not! You should be seeing around 13.5 to 14.5v with engine running. This can be caused by a failing Stator, R/R or poor connections as mentioned. Go through "The Drill" below to diagnose your charging system. Do you have the Service Manual? It can be downloaded from the forum.
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    Flat battery

    Greetings, the VFR is a2001 , 60000 miles , battery age not know I’ve owned it for 3 and half years. So probably 4 years. All the best Paul
  5. So of course...electrical problems. It was fine for a week or so but the battery was showing signs of weakness. Today it was making some odd noises after I left home, so I tried a shutdown/restart and...not enough amps to crank. This is after a night of riding with my old heated jacket (the only thing I kept from the good old 2000's!) that should not have left the bike drained or something. I got to practice bump starting the bike to get home on the slightest of inclines that just barely got me going fast enough. And after a fifteen minute blast on the highway home, it was able to restart in the garage on its own. New battery, but I am leery of whatever else might be going on in there. I never replaced anything electrical while I had it, but the last owner did the ignition wire fix. Voltmeter says the old battery and charging system are fine...in my garage. But I am a fan of fixing everything at once so I have a VFRness and new R/R coming in to go with the new battery. In other news, 20 years of grime in the intake side of the radiators and the oil cleaner was holding it back on cooling. Some A/C coil cleaner and a fresh water rinse have made it a lot happier sitting in traffic...
  6. A friend of mine had the suspension on her 6gen lowered which required the Side Stand to be shortened, this had a negative effect on the bikes stability with wind in either direction while parked, you also had to be far more aware of any pavement camber. So the way I see it, is that shortening of the stand creates a negative effect by being less stable and more prone to topple depending on wind direction, strength and pavement angle. A greater reaching with slighter angled stand will increase stability but there is obviously a practical limit to that. So it's length and angle is a fine line between good overall stability and practicality. My bike is the same as yours, and provided I get the bike positioned correctly on any camber, it's very stable on the side stand, and never had an issue even with full OEM panniers. YMMV.
  7. too bad some trendy young hipster's tail ruined it.
  8. Has anyone else seen the need for a shorter side stand? The angle of a 800F is nearly perp to the ground with the stock side stand, not to mention the very close proximity of it's end to that of the center stand kicker. The possibility of the bike blowing over with it's sail of a fairing or possibly kicking it over by glazing the seat with your boot if you have a tail bag on for example is fairly good. Without always tucking your pant leg within your boot, these can snag very easily on the stands mechanisms( I inadvertently kicked the stand down the other day, killing the bike, fortunately by the shoulder at low speed)
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  10. If Honda would add a gallon of gas capacity to the VFR1200 and lose 60 lbs, I would be in for one - even if it doesn't look as cool (IMO) as the Ninja...
  11. Frame temp at R/R was 55c(131F) but on cooler day.
  12. I think if Honda was in tune with the market, the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX is the perfect example target of where the VFR should be.....
  13. yeah, maybe squirt oil down plug-holes and spin engine by hand around couple times. Then do compression-test Then use starter to crank it over some more and build oil-pressure.
  14. Yeah, they seem ok for stuff like adventure bikes where it's a low to midrange torque game. The fact that almost all of the bikes in that genre are heading that way tells us something. But for sport bikes...eh...I'll stick with options that are happy at high revs.
  15. Yamaha's mt07/xsr700/tenere700/tracer700 is a crossplane parallell twin which sounds amazing and is actually quite fun and torqy with its 70 whp and about the same torque (Nm). So I wouldn't be upset per se by a paralell twin, but the characteristics would need to be right.
  16. Good news! Found an air box and base plate on eBay. While I wait for delivery... more cleaning. What have you all used to restore plastics?
  17. Yes, I agree that the length of the headers (relative to one another) is very nearly the complete solution (something around a 90% solution) and as a result constitutes the majority explanation for the odd-seeming instructions for the Starter Valve Sync procedure. But the design element that keeps header length from being a pure, complete, 100% solution is the VFR's irregular V-4 cylinder firing order, because it (the VFR's irregular firing order) causes localized, cylinder to cylinder changes/differences in gas velocities and resultant "scavenging" and flow of gases from individual cylinders. The VFR headers (whether 5th Gen or 6th Gen) are a "tri-Y" design, so you have to consider the gases from each of the 4 cylinders, the order in which they are fired, the lengths of the individual headers from each cylinder, and the order in which the exhaust pulses arrive at the "Y" merges within the header system. I'm not college-trained in Fluid Dynamics (as high speeds gases act like fluids), so I can't give an absolute fact analysis of the situation. But maybe we could get to a better understanding with a side conversation, I'm open to hearing opinion and analysis that dissects/examines the timing and effect of the VFR's 1-0-3-0-0-2-0-4- firing order and how that timing interacts with the two different versions (5th Gen vs. 6th Gen) of the VFR "Tri-Y" header system. Right off the bat I'm reminded of the 2 choices of header that were available for a motorcycle I have some experience with, the Suzuki GSF400. There was a "four-into-one" header and there was a "Tri-Y" (or call it a 4-into-2-into-one). The "four-into-one" was (supposedly) optimized for high-rpm operation but not so great in the mid-range RPMs, while the "Tri-Y" was (said to be) better in the mid-range RPMs but gave away a bit in the high-rpm.
  18. You are right. My apologies to ShipFixer. I checked Honda's website again. I must have been looking at the wrong bikes earlier. As for parallel twins, I think they've come a long way in the last 10-12 years. I test rode a (maybe) 2015 BMW F800GT a few years ago and its engine was wheezy and unimpressive. After some changes and tuning by BMW, the same basic engine in the 2020 F750GS was much better. I don't know what a 650 parallel twin fares, but it might be okay.
  19. I believe the 650 Honda is an inline 4. The 500 and 700/750nc's are parallel twins....
  20. Re 5th gen differential vacuum & 6th gen equal Vacuum. its all to do with the headers length NOTHING else. If you look at the right side of both bikes with the riders leg heat shield removed, you can see that on a 5th gen #1 cylinder header is the rear most of the C shaped headers that run down & under the right foot rest. With #3 cylinder header being the forward one. You can easily see that #1 is significantly longer. On the 6th gen Honda fixed this by making #1 & 3 headers swap over & thus #1 header is the forward one. This also explains why the 6th gen front headers cross over to keep the merges the same. Thus all 6th gen headers are within a couple of inches of each other in length. So they can run the same vacuum settings. On a 5th gen #1 & 3 are very different lengths, thus they need the differential vacuum. I've said this many times in the past, so please pay attention at the back 😂
  21. My brother got infected with the virus today.... No, not covid-19. MBD!!!! 🙂
  22. Welcome to VFRD!! Prior to dumping money in her, I'd investigate first if and how indeed (lots?) of fuel found its way in the oil....
  23. Congrats on your project bike and welcome to the forum! Good luck getting it sorted out. 🙂
  24. Honda makes both a 500 and 650 parallel twin, both in naked and full-fairing configurations. I've done a test sit on one of the 650 faired versions, and the ergonomics are pretty sporty. Not like the old Kawasaki Ninja 650, which (if I remember correctly) was the first popular 650 parallel twin sporty bike - but which seemed like a very watered down sportbike. By comparison, the Honda CBR650R *looks* like a sportbike, though not as hard-edged as an actual CBR600RR.
  25. I did see two different sets, one of them had a cracked housing and the other the lenses look no where near the condition of the ones I'm replacing. I'm pretty anal when it comes to scratches and swirl marks on my vehicles How did you find the fitment on them? I guess my biggest concern with the after market headlight is that in my experience with cars they don't come with the same UV protection on the lens and end up yellowing and cracking very quickly. But it seems like maybe these Chinese ones might be decent parts
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      Another Epic Ride
      Lost a job recently so decided to spend some quality time on my moto. Took a 3 day tour of SD/WY, solo keeping a generous 6+feet distance from most individuals and animals (luckily)
      Day 1, left Denver and arrived Hot Springs, SD. I was immediately greeted by lovely twisties of Hwy 395/87 and the bison on a way heading to Custer. 
      Stayed overnight in the Center Lake campground, roughing it sleeping in a hammock (my first). Dipped to 48F overnight so I was a little chilly. The campground is awesome: clean showers, beautiful lake, wildlife around.. 
      Day 2, left the campground and I was immediately on the Needles Highway. I’ve been on it a few times so I did not bother stopping to take pictures because I was enjoying the road basically to myself early morning. The is super twisty and has a few on way tunnels carved out in the rocks. Epic ride! I continued riding to the Spearfish Canyon after a short stop for breakfast in Hill City. SC is another must do: flowy, moderate speeds ride! Left SD heading to the oldest National Monument in US. The roads around it are triple digit sweepers but kept it sane being alone and seeing some cops around. After a quick picture at Devils Tower, rode to my cabin in Buffalo, WY. 
      Day 3, after sleeping not that great, I stopped for a drive through coffee at Macdonalds:). I wonder if I was their first customer on a motorcycle going through a drive through 🤪. After slurping the god-sent beverage, off I went over the Big Horn mountains. It was a cold foggy morning in the mountains so I missed some of the scenery. The fog lifted as soon as I reached the peak, and I was happy to be able to see more than 20 feet in front of me. Again, did not stop for pics, I was just happy to avoid any potential collision with the wildlife and being warm enough to enjoy the corners. The west side of Hwy 16 is better anyways, smooth pavement and nice views. Stopped in Thermopolis, WY at Bear Cafe for brunch-great food!
      The canyon heading south of town is beautiful!! Then, the boring shit of 120 miles to Rawlins.. Not terribly so but after all the good roads, this was definitely a drag. The highlight of the ride back to Denver was a ride through the Medicine Bowl mountains (Saratoga to Centennial). Nice road and lots of snow still on the sides..
      In summary, the best part of my trip is the Black Hills, SD. You literarily can spend 3 days and explore some of the neatest roads and not have to go far. They also take care of their roads, and the wildlife is the icing on the cake: watch out for wild turkeys, deer and bison of course. 


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      VFR1200 Project Bike
      Hello everyone,
           First post here so a bit of an introduction.
      I am Coxy, I like taking things to bits! I thought I would come on here to document my VFR1200 project build. 
      I've built a few bikes in the past, the start was putting a TDM900 engine into a TRX850 chassis, I used this on the road and the track and it was great fun:

      Eventually I got to the point where I wanted a bit more power on track to keep pace with the big boys on the litre bikes, I ride at Croft and Cadwell mainly, so no massive long straights. I figured around 120bhp would be enough to limit the losses on the straights so I decided to fit an MT09 engine into the TRX.  Power went up to 120bhp, and the weight of the bike was slashed (the mt09 engine is 13kg lighter  than the TDM lump). I spend 2 years refining and tuning it on track and its now its this current condition as featured in Practical Sportsbikes:

      Fitting the MT09 engine turned out to be a lot more involved that I originally anticipated, and I ended up rebuilding the frame around the headstock and the top tube. 
      Here's a video of the one of the last session from last year on it:
      So, after all this i started thinking that I wouldnt mind building a bike virtually from the ground up. and I always fancied a V4. I like the look of the shaft drive VFR1200 setup, and after about a year of searching I managed to locate one at the right price:

      The plan is to use the engine, swingarm and wheels, and build a bike around that. I'll put another post up to show where I have gotten to so far! 
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      Juniper Pass

      I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.





      I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.




      Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado


      Zoomed in


      Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain

      From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped


      Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs


      Idaho Springs Colorado


      Mashtuns and fermenters


      Rows of fermenters

      I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS


      Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road

      There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!

      I did stop for pictures in all the best spots


      Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate


      Elephant Butte Park and Denver


      Close up


      Veefalo on Squaw Pass


      Juniper Pass


      Juniper Pass


      Mount Evans

      My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers


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      Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.

      Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.

      My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.

      With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.

      So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.

      Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since smile.gif

      Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.

      I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:

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