Member Contributer KevCarver Posted June 23, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 23, 2019 If the 8th Gen number of orders is only 3 or 4, then I'm fairly certain they are all custom jobs. Seems like no 8th Gen riders are actually interested...? They seem like a group that is really satisfied with slip ons and their superior charging systems...😆 Quote
SEBSPEED Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 5 hours ago, BuzznerSuntrusts said: If the 8th Gen number of orders is only 3 or 4, then I'm fairly certain they are all custom jobs. Seems like no 8th Gen riders are actually interested...? They seem like a group that is really satisfied with slip ons and their superior charging systems...😆 At least 3 of those 8g headers are for 5th/6th gen bikes because we want the splayed front tubes to accommodate a low mounted front radiator. To me it makes more sense to batch these with the 5/6 header run. I owe an update on centerstand stops. I've been busy bouncing around other jobs in my shop but I will get to them! 2 Quote
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted June 23, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, SEBSPEED said: At least 3 of those 8g headers are for 5th/6th gen bikes because we want the splayed front tubes to accommodate a low mounted front radiator. To me it makes more sense to batch these with the 5/6 header run. I think that is what HighSideNZ is looking for as well. Quote
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted June 23, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 23, 2019 4 hours ago, BuzznerSuntrusts said: I think that is what HighSideNZ is looking for as well. Has it been confirmed that the splayed 8th gen tubes will clear 6th gen bodywork? My gut reaction is that they should , but it would be a major bummer to have them and find out otherwise. Quote
SEBSPEED Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 15 hours ago, Cogswell said: Has it been confirmed that the splayed 8th gen tubes will clear 6th gen bodywork? My gut reaction is that they should , but it would be a major bummer to have them and find out otherwise. I'm 99% sure the oem 8g front pipes will clear, based on studying pictures and judging where the pipes are in relation to the motor. It remains to be seen if Wade's pipes will leave enough clearance. I do have a plan A and B roughed out, just in case. Quote
Member Contributer HighSideNZ Posted June 25, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 25, 2019 I currently have a set of Shark RC45 headers on my Gen 6 so if they clear the body work then the 8th Gen pipe should be a shoe in. Remember that the 8th Gen does not have side rads so the body work is more narrow than a 6th Gen from the start. What I'm after is to get the headers merging correctly for the 180 deg crank as my current pipes merge both fronts together and both rears together. Not a biggie but it would be better for mid range if they merged correctly I feel. I'm with SEB. It would be pretty easy I expect to run these splayed front pipes in with the 6th Gen batch. Phil Quote
Member Contributer boOZZIE Posted June 25, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 25, 2019 Probably best off to see/beg/bribe 😉 sfdownhill to test fit the 8g pipes to 6g as there were also some differences with the rear downpipes Quote
Member Contributer Fz6wja Posted June 26, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 26, 2019 I must be that "1" 8th gen guy y'all speak of. Hope we can come up with a plan to get the next run done. I know these things are a pain and a lot of work/time to put together. The effort is outstanding . Thanks to everyone trying to come up with a solution. Quote
VFR750F3 Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 Just finished bike for road america front right header melted plastic. Incorrectly bent. Disappointed 1 Quote
Neo2122 Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 Just finished bike for road america front right header melted plastic. Incorrectly bent. Disappointed Mine also just barely touched the plastic shield there, I just trimmed a 1/4" section near the pipe and have had zero problems Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Member Contributer TheLimey Posted June 28, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, VFR750F3 said: Just finished bike for road america front right header melted plastic. Incorrectly bent. Disappointed Yeah, you're probably right; those headers are rubbish. I'll give you five bucks for them. 3 Quote
VFR750F3 Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 Not completely rubbish i can pop clutchless wheelies now. 1 Quote
Member Contributer TheLimey Posted June 29, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 29, 2019 You sure I can't tempt you? I mean, it melted your little plastic doofer and everything. Five bucks and a packet of Cheetos, that's my final offer. 3 Quote
Member Contributer Mohawk Posted June 29, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 29, 2019 ^^^ What he said. They are performance headers NOT OEM replacements, there may be minor clearance issues. I’ve never looked closely at an 8th gen fairing lower V, but I’m stunned by your picture & how big those holes are, Honda must have no faith in their own exhaust manufacturing now, if you compare those with the pipe cooling holes on 5/6th gens ! What’s a little melted plastic when you get such benefits !? YCMV. ( your clearance may vary !) 1 Quote
SEBSPEED Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Mohawk said: ^^^ What he said. They are performance headers NOT OEM replacements, there may be minor clearance issues. I’ve never looked closely at an 8th gen fairing lower V, but I’m stunned by your picture & how big those holes are, Honda must have no faith in their own exhaust manufacturing now, if you compare those with the pipe cooling holes on 5/6th gens ! What’s a little melted plastic when you get such benefits !? YCMV. ( your clearance may vary !) Pretty sure he's got a 5/6 - 8th has radiator down there and therefore larger holes in the vee, to allow air flow Quote
Member Contributer sfdownhill Posted June 29, 2019 Author Member Contributer Posted June 29, 2019 There has been a lot of activity since I was last staying up with events on this thread - all good stuff, even the teething problems. I sincerely apologize to everyone here for being off the reservation. I am currently in the high Colorado mountains and clinging to a one-bar signal that literally blows away when the wind moves. I will be back on reliable internet Monday and will thoroughly flesh out the points below. I have not been idle...Wade and I have been talking regularly about: (1) plans to finish the production run of 8 gen headers and sell from stock without waiting for 15 deposited orders. Wade is considering this. (2) modifying his jigs to move cylinder #1 primary 1/4” to the right, as there is slight interference with the center stand at the bottom of its arc. This occurs on my bike and the 8 gen w prototype headers, perhaps others? (3) gearing up further to do another run of 5/6 gen headers. On 5 and 6 gens cylinder 4 (front right) clearance with the inner half ‘chin’ cowl is a problem. The TBR headers get very very close at this point, and our production headers touch the chin cowl. Here are the TBR installed on a 5 gen: On my 5 gen heating the chin cowl with a heat gun and flexing it forward where the headers touch provided enough clearance to avoid melting plastic. The blue tape is how I marked the area to heat and flex: I just found out this internet connection can’t handle full res photos, so I’ll reduce the image sizes and insert then into this post as an edit later today. More to follow. 3 1 Quote
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted June 30, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/21/2019 at 9:59 PM, vfrcapn said: I may be in for a 5G set too... So, SFDownhill hooked me up with a Wolf exhaust and my thinking was it wouldn't mate to my TBros header so I'd need a stock or equivalent header replacement. No oem fitting pipe I ever tried would work with the TBros header outlet that is angled to work only with their mid-pipe. But, with just a little fiddling, the two-piece Wolf pipe allowed me to get everything turned and lined up with the TBros. Long story short, I probably won't be in for one of the new headers but I'll keep an eye on developments in case a new 5G batch gets going. Many thanks to SFDownhill for the Wolf, it is literally like new and sounds great. 2 Quote
Member Contributer Mohawk Posted June 30, 2019 Member Contributer Posted June 30, 2019 21 hours ago, SEBSPEED said: Pretty sure he's got a 5/6 - 8th has radiator down there and therefore larger holes in the vee, to allow air flow Doh, sorry I never looked past the plastic & exhaust, I’ll blame it on target fixation ! So same applies to 6th gen then. But being a long production model, then no worries, just buy a spare bit of plastic & be happy 😉 Quote
MiniCarver Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 6:15 PM, VFR750F3 said: Not completely rubbish i can pop clutchless wheelies now. That's the spirit, i'd take my little bit melted v-dam with these performance headers over a stock header with clean v-dam any day. 2 Quote
Member Contributer sfdownhill Posted June 30, 2019 Author Member Contributer Posted June 30, 2019 15 hours ago, vfrcapn said: So, SFDownhill hooked me up with a Wolf exhaust and my thinking was it wouldn't mate to my TBros header so I'd need a stock or equivalent header replacement. No oem fitting pipe I ever tried would work with the TBros header outlet that is angled to work only with their mid-pipe. But, with just a little fiddling, the two-piece Wolf pipe allowed me to get everything turned and lined up with the TBros. Long story short, I probably won't be in for one of the new headers but I'll keep an eye on developments in case a new 5G batch gets going. Many thanks to SFDownhill for the Wolf, it is literally like new and sounds great. Looks great capn. I never got to hear the Wolf with the new packing installed and quiet inserts removed - I bet with the TBR headers it is schweeet! Getting to have a listen to your bike is another reason for us to get out on a ride together. Quote
eyrwbvfr Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) I've put my deposit for a set of 5th gen headers! Took plunge and will set aside for this winter project, along with upgraded suspension. How many is this now on the 5g header list? How about we just make an updated list and everyone who deposited just fill it out. Copy and paste and pass it on. 1. eyrwbvfr 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Edited July 2, 2019 by eyrwbvfr added deposit list Quote
Member Contributer adkfinn Posted July 2, 2019 Member Contributer Posted July 2, 2019 52 minutes ago, eyrwbvfr said: I've put my deposit for a set of 5th gen headers! Took plunge and will set aside for this winter project, along with upgraded suspension. How many is this now on the 5g header list? How about we just make an updated list and everyone who deposited just fill it out. Copy and paste and pass it on. 1. eyrwbvfr 2. adkfinn 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Quote
VFR750F3 Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 What can i say i was just pointing out the obvious. I am vey happy with the header nevertheless i have purchased several headers for my other motorcycles kerker, akra and hindle and never had clearance issues. I applaud the commitment to get the header into production and to rectify the issue in other runs. I just don't understand the snide comments. I don't recall anyone jumping all over the guy who was aggravated over the exhaust gasket size. 1 1 Quote
Member Contributer adkfinn Posted July 3, 2019 Member Contributer Posted July 3, 2019 2 hours ago, VFR750F3 said: What can i say i was just pointing out the obvious. I am vey happy with the header nevertheless i have purchased several headers for my other motorcycles kerker, akra and hindle and never had clearance issues. I applaud the commitment to get the header into production and to rectify the issue in other runs. I just don't understand the snide comments. I don't recall anyone jumping all over the guy who was aggravated over the exhaust gasket size. I don't think anyone meant to come across as too harsh, mostly just having a poke. I think most people consider this small batch replica header to be a different animal than a production piece, hence the different expectations. The 'other guy' actually took way more guff in another thread, but you both seem to have weathered it just fine. If we all agreed all the time this place would be pretty boring. 5 Quote
GreginDenver Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 As others have already said, I like the "new header" enough that I'm willing to live with a little inconvenience. Here are pictures of my work to provide clearance for the header from the #4 cylinder. I imitated sfdownhill's solution to the problem, I used a heat gun to soften up the plastic so it could be re-formed with an outward bend that gives the #4 cylinder's header about the same amount of clearance as the #2 cylinder's header pipe. Installed on the bike you can see that I've managed to achieve the same amount of fairing-to-header pipe clearance on both the #4 and #2 headers. I happened to have some high temperature heat reflecting tape on hand so I added it to the work I did. I figured why not, regardless of whether the situation really needed this amount of protection Maybe I got a little carried away with the heat reflective taping... 4 Quote
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