Member Contributer luvtoleanit Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 Unless you are allergic to other bike brands why continue whining and pining for something Honda has no interest in making? Aprilia has a great v4 if you must have one. Waay to many bikes on the market with all the power and suspension you can handle. Aprilia is a little pricey, no? also, are they as comfy as my 86? :P their v4 makes 170hp with 1000CC... wtf Honda Aprilia have reduced the cost of the bike by about $5k and added traction control and abs....this is the year to buy. I made an appointment with the Aprilia dealer for a test ride. You can find a 2012 (with the 2013 updated electronics) for 10.5k all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 Unless you are allergic to other bike brands why continue whining and pining for something Honda has no interest in making? Aprilia has a great v4 if you must have one. Waay to many bikes on the market with all the power and suspension you can handle. Aprilia is a little pricey, no? also, are they as comfy as my 86? :P their v4 makes 170hp with 1000CC... wtf Honda Aprilia have reduced the cost of the bike by about $5k and added traction control and abs....this is the year to buy. I made an appointment with the Aprilia dealer for a test ride. You can find a 2012 (with the 2013 updated electronics) for 10.5k all day long. And I have found several 2013s in the 12.9 range or 14.9 for the factory version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer spinalator Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 I still respect you, as much as I did before, anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianF Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And I have found several 2013s in the 12.9 range or 14.9 for the factory version. Got it, you're talking RSV4 not Tuono. Sorry. A couple months ago I came very close to buying a brand new '09 RSV1000R Factory from Elk Grove Powersports in Sacramenton. $9999 and 0 miles. $12,900 for an RSV4 has me thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 I still respect you, as much as I did before, anyway! Luckily for us that amount of respect is immeasurable...literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Gerrys02800 Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 My 2002 looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 And I have found several 2013s in the 12.9 range or 14.9 for the factory version. Got it, you're talking RSV4 not Tuono. Sorry. A couple months ago I came very close to buying a brand new '09 RSV1000R Factory from Elk Grove Powersports in Sacramenton. $9999 and 0 miles. $12,900 for an RSV4 has me thinking... $10,900 if you can stomach a 2012 with 2013 upgraded electronics....really sweet deal for all you are getting. My 2002 looks better. not to me...YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 The more I see and hear about the machine, the more I like it. I think I'm falling in love. I only wish I could afford one. I do still love my pair of fives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 So to recap the generation runs: 1983-1985 = 1st gen 1986-1989 = 2nd gen 1990-1993 = 3rd gen 1994-1997 = 4th gen 1998-2001 = 5th gen 2002-2013 = 6th gen 2002-2005 = 6.0 gen 2006-2009 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; No longer sold after 2009 in U.S./Canada) 2006-2013 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; Sold until 2013 outside U.S./Canada) 2010- ??? = 7th gen (VFR1200) 2014- ??? = 8th gen (VFR800) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayarearider Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 So to recap the generation runs: 2014- ??? = 8th gen (VFR800) Yep-gotta do it! I've never seen CC's go backward like this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 from the Honda "Operation Manual" :TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM (TCS) For model equipped with CBS/ABS/TCS:The Traction Control System (TCS) assists you in maintaining traction while accelerating on slippery surfaces by regulating the engine's power output when it senses the rear wheel starting to lose traction. TCS automatically turns on when the ignition is turned ON. You have the option of turning TCS off by using the TCS ON/OFF Switch. Riding with TCS requires no special skills or techniques. TCS does not affect braking and cannot prevent loss of traction if you enter a corner too fast. It is still your responsibility to ride at reasonable speeds for weather, road surface, and traffic conditions, and to leave a margin of safety. When riding on loose, slippery, or uneven surfaces, you may notice the engine does not respond to the throttle in the same way it usually does. This is a sign that TCS is activated and operating. The TCS Activation Light will flash on to signal you. Carver got and this text is from the ST1100 operation manual? You have to ask its TIMMY .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 So to recap the generation runs: 1983-1985 = 1st gen 1986-1989 = 2nd gen 1990-1993 = 3rd gen 1994-1997 = 4th gen 1998-2001 = 5th gen 2002-2013 = 6th gen 2002-2005 = 6.0 gen 2006-2009 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; No longer sold after 2009 in U.S./Canada) 2006-2013 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; Sold until 2013 outside U.S./Canada) 2010- ??? = 7th gen (VFR1200) 2014- ??? = 8th gen (VFR800) Based on your chart I'm thinking that the new 800 is the 6.2 gen (its still the 6th with updates) and the 1200 now is just a 1st gen 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 So to recap the generation runs: 1983-1985 = 1st gen 1986-1989 = 2nd gen 1990-1993 = 3rd gen 1994-1997 = 4th gen 1998-2001 = 5th gen 2002-2013 = 6th gen 2002-2005 = 6.0 gen 2006-2009 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; No longer sold after 2009 in U.S./Canada) 2006-2013 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; Sold until 2013 outside U.S./Canada) 2010- ??? = 7th gen (VFR1200) 2014- ??? = 8th gen (VFR800) Based on your chart I'm thinking that the new 800 is the 6.2 gen (its still the 6th with updates) and the 1200 now is just a 1st gen 12 I was thinking along the same lines as well but as CC pointed out that the differences in the 3rd/4th gen wasn't that big, yet they are treated as different generations. Between the 1st\2nd\3rd, 4th\5th and 5th\6th there seem to be enough to call them different generations for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-Oz Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 ok we need a VOTE on the GEN # thread, and a thread for nick-name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted November 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2013 ok we need a VOTE on the GEN # thread, and a thread for nick-name... Someone start it ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-Oz Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And I have found several 2013s in the 12.9 range or 14.9 for the factory version. Got it, you're talking RSV4 not Tuono. Sorry. A couple months ago I came very close to buying a brand new '09 RSV1000R Factory from Elk Grove Powersports in Sacramenton. $9999 and 0 miles. $12,900 for an RSV4 has me thinking... $12,900 USD for RSV4 has me thinking that its another example of how Oz get raped on new bike prices, here its listed at $22, 000 AUD. Maybe Australia is further away from Italy than the US is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4 Rosso Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Maybe Australia is further away from Italy than the US is...Italy is less than a day's ride but here the RSV4 is euro 21K for the base model and 24K for the factory version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viffer88 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Can someone photochop CBR front end onto the VFR with Panigale exhaust? THAT would be a package worthy of my coin. Something like this? I only grabbed the shock. The CBR has less rake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marriedman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 So to recap the generation runs: 1983-1985 = 1st gen 1986-1989 = 2nd gen 1990-1993 = 3rd gen 1994-1997 = 4th gen 1998-2001 = 5th gen 2002-2013 = 6th gen 2002-2005 = 6.0 gen 2006-2009 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; No longer sold after 2009 in U.S./Canada) 2006-2013 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; Sold until 2013 outside U.S./Canada) 2010- ??? = 7th gen (VFR1200) 2014- ??? = 8th gen (VFR800) Based on your chart I'm thinking that the new 800 is the 6.2 gen (its still the 6th with updates) and the 1200 now is just a 1st gen 12 I was thinking along the same lines as well but as CC pointed out that the differences in the 3rd/4th gen wasn't that big, yet they are treated as different generations. Between the 1st\2nd\3rd, 4th\5th and 5th\6th there seem to be enough to call them different generations for sure. Dammit, can't this video to embed. http://youtu.be/3NaQxUEfxt0?t=32s I agree with Duc & mello, - 6.2 gen. However, none of us call the various 6th gens anything other than that. I say it's new 7th gen 800 and the 1200 is the 1st gen 1200. ok we need a VOTE on the GEN # thread, and a thread for nick-name... Do it AB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2013 ok we need a VOTE on the GEN # thread, and a thread for nick-name... Viffer'cati for the 8G ... or someone who is more clever can find a more mellifluous combination of VFR and Ducati (or Augusta) to celebrate the best looking VFR swingarm in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted November 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2013 So to recap the generation runs: 1983-1985 = 1st gen 1986-1989 = 2nd gen 1990-1993 = 3rd gen 1994-1997 = 4th gen 1998-2001 = 5th gen 2002-2013 = 6th gen 2002-2005 = 6.0 gen 2006-2009 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; No longer sold after 2009 in U.S./Canada) 2006-2013 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; Sold until 2013 outside U.S./Canada) 2010- ??? = 7th gen (VFR1200) 2014- ??? = 8th gen (VFR800) The Honda factory service manual I purchased for my 4th gen when I owned it (I still have it) covers both 3rd and 4th gens with just one section covering the engine. Honda considered the engines between 3 and 4 gens so similar they covered them in one combined section, pointing out subtle differences where needed. The frames are clearly different. However looking at the front forks, the FSM shows one diagram for '90 and '91, then a redesign that carried on from '92 through '97, bridging the two gens. Two of the most noticeable (but obviously not all) differences between 3rd and 4th gens are the bodywork and the wheels with less noticeable things like brake rotors, etc tossed in to the mix. To me this all sounds familiar to what we're looking at now - many parts carried over, but sufficiently new components (including bodywork, wheels, suspension) to make this a gen apart from the 6th gen. 8th gen gets my vote for the 2014 model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted November 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2013 This bike does fill like a gap filler. The real new designed VFR maybe a couple years away .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2013 So to recap the generation runs: 1983-1985 = 1st gen 1986-1989 = 2nd gen 1990-1993 = 3rd gen 1994-1997 = 4th gen 1998-2001 = 5th gen 2002-2013 = 6th gen 2002-2005 = 6.0 gen 2006-2009 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; No longer sold after 2009 in U.S./Canada) 2006-2013 = 6.1 gen (Change to VTEC engagement RPM; Sold until 2013 outside U.S./Canada) 2010- ??? = 7th gen (VFR1200) 2014- ??? = 8th gen (VFR800) The Honda factory service manual I purchased for my 4th gen when I owned it (I still have it) covers both 3rd and 4th gens with just one section covering the engine. Honda considered the engines between 3 and 4 gens so similar they covered them in one combined section, pointing out subtle differences where needed. The frames are clearly different. However looking at the front forks, the FSM shows one diagram for '90 and '91, then a redesign that carried on from '92 through '97, bridging the two gens. Two of the most noticeable (but obviously not all) differences between 3rd and 4th gens are the bodywork and the wheels with less noticeable things like brake rotors, etc tossed in to the mix. To me this all sounds familiar to what we're looking at now - many parts carried over, but sufficiently new components (including bodywork, wheels, suspension) to make this a gen apart from the 6th gen. 8th gen gets my vote for the 2014 model. The frames between the 3G and 4G are almost the exact same with the exception of cutting off the frame "vents" which were then mimicked in the plastic bodywork on the 4G. With that revised and gorgeous swingarm alone there is more content difference between the 6G and the 8G than between the 3G and 4G, then add in the alloy rear sub frame, integrated pannier mounts, and completely new plastics with LED lighting and front mounted rads and this is no mere updated Vtec engagement point and clear marker lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The 2014 VFR will not be imported to the U.S. according to rideapart.com. I can see wanting more power if you're like 400lbs with a spouse to match but we're talking a freaking STREET bike, an 800cc softly sprung STREET bike that in properly trained hands can STILL keep up with most anything on the street despite the vtec, weight, suspension, and so called lack of power. At least that has been my experience in the 4 years of riding my '07 vfr. I've ridden with many guys on the latest and greatest flavor of the month bikes and they never had to wait for the old man on the vfr. Unless you are allergic to other bike brands why continue whining and pining for something Honda has no interest in making? Aprilia has a great v4 if you must have one. Waay to many bikes on the market with all the power and suspension you can handle. Finally, another voice of clarity, Honda improves ( via evolution) a great all-rounder, and keeps it in the do-it-all class and all we get from the masses is whining that it is not sporty or touring enough. And all this on a site filled with people who bought the bike for that very reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer panamawing Posted November 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2013 One thing i like about the 2014 is all the buzz it has created. VFR riders know what they want or don't want! Enjoy your ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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