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Thanks for the posting op. I recently had a 5th Gen plop in the shop, did a thunderous tear down, threw a slough of parts into the garbage, and am hoping I remember where the good parts go lol It will be a pile of parts by the time i'm ready to put it back together.

VFR1200F FD 2010-2015 Service Manual View File Better quality images in this one. Submitter Terry Submitted 11/19/2025 Category Owners Manuals and other  

A starter that fixes itself on the bench? That's freakin' cool.

https://www.vfrdiscussion.com/index.php?/files/file/290-vfr1200x-crosstourer-honda-shop-manual/

Sadly, sfdownhill is no longer with us. I don't know if that kit contained any custom machined parts, but I suspect it did.

Skeptical, but thinking positive for you. I have been wrong many times before and will be many times in the future. Good luck.

Very interesting build. Sorry about the pathetic posts from that guy, he's not like the rest of us. Are you talking about the 8th Gen rear hub/wheel?

Alright, so I spoke with the tech. He explained that the starter itself is having some sort of internal shorting causing it to draw a half of the battery’s voltage. When he removed the starter to bench test it like I did it worked like a charm, but when put back on the bike it would just steal half the battery’s voltage once he pushed the starter button. He took the starter apart, cleaned the brushes, inspected the rest of the internals and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. The conclusion we both came to was the starter itself drew so much voltage that it shorted the relay (and battery) which is why the bike died while it was running. This does add up because I had to replace the starter relay last year; so we figured that the starter has been “taxing” me in the form of shorting my relays since the starter is drawing too much power. He says he checked everything in the system and the starter is the only thing that is “acting up” so I reluctantly ordered it… However, as for it not being able to be bump-started we still haven’t figured out why it’s been acting like that. I’ll keep you guys updated, but for context this bike has had electrical gremlins for the longest time since I bought it from some Quebecois bastard that neglected it in his garage for almost 3 years…

Thanks Gaz! That explanation is perfect. The last thing I want to have to do is pull this thing back apart again because of some small oversight!

VFR1200X Crosstourer Honda Shop Manual View File Honda Shop Manual for 2012 VFR1200X Crosstourer. Submitter Skids Submitted 11/18/2025 Category Owners Manuals and other  

Recently added a quick shifter to my 8th gen 2014 VFR800FD following some info I got here purchasing some OEM style parts for a CBR 600 RR. The QS works awesome so far as seamless WOT shifts. The 600 Shift pedal is adequate but spaced away from the frame farther than I like. I am looking for an OEM QS pedal or other solution to improve the pedal position. Thanks in advance Crusty

Hay D. Small bore pipe from left side of rear cyl head pipe union feeds the lower port of wax fast idle unit, this is "INLET". Small bore pipe with tight U-bend from stat housing feeds upper the upper port of fast idle wax unit, this is "OUTLET". Both pipes route up thru centre of throttle body assembly direct to wax unit. Ensure wax unit water flow is not blocked (common issue).

If I needed the services of a Dealership and these were my (never good) experiences, pretty sure I would just resign myself to the new reality that my town doesn't have a Honda Dealership and carry on as such. I think I would start looking for a cool Gen8 owner in my county that might be willing to offer a very brief test use of their PGM for a lunch and a beer. Good luck, you'll get it figured out.

Yeah, i’ve never had a good experience with them but they happen to be the only Honda dealership in town…

They may as well have been oval. Would have made more sense than simply moving them onto a different PCD... Ciao, JZH

That's a good point. Thinking about it, probably just a chamber versus any kind of flow dependent architecture. Kicking myself for not labelling things better....

I have no dog in this fight but I'm sure the wax unit won't care which port is connected to which hose as it just acts as a chamber for the coolant to pass through.

Both hoses are routed up through the middle of the throttle body to the wax idle. The thermostat hose is shown being connected to the forward most port closest the handlebars. Flow direction is from left most elbow fitting, into aft side of wax idle, out front most port and returning to the thermostat housing. They are illustrating the hose going up through the middle by using the dashed interruption of the solid arrow to signify it being obscured by the back half of the throttle body.

I have the manual, but I am having a hard time understanding it, at least some of the sketch diagrams. To me at least, I have a harder time 'reading' a sketch diagram versus a photograph. In the diagram above I am having a hard time seeing which tube goes where on the wax unit. It appears as though the tube from the thermostat housing goes to the upper left port on the wax unit. But, from the sketch diagram I simply cannot determine the routing of the rubber tube from the thermostat housing. I guess it will be a bit of trial and error to figure it out....

You doing all this and don't have a "1998 - 2001" version of the service manual laying around?

WTF? Babbitt's is just an actual dealership that has a very good online presence. "Your" dealership sucks balls.

I looked at the fuse holders when I pulled each fuse and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary, but I 100% could have missed something. The bike is stuck with them and has been for almost a month and change (due to me having to source parts through Babbit’s since the actual dealership can’t order anything because everything is on back order for 3-7 months, so I haven’t had a chance to review most of the things i’d like to. Depending on how the conversation goes tomorrow i’ll probably take the bike back and try to isolate the problem over the winter.