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new TBs ready to go in--degreased, new vac lines, new gaskets for fuel rails, new choke wax, got injectors serviced (huge shoutout to curt at advancedinjector.com), and got it all put back together. decided the easiest and least butcherous way to adapt the wiring was to take the 5th gen harness and cut and splice the injector connectors from the 6th gen harness, since the main plug on the newer harness doesn't reach nearly as far as it needs to. other than that, though, there're quite a few nice upgrades from the older unit: idle adjusts with a nice big comfy thumbwheel, connections to throttles and airbox for choke/idle are just cast in instead of needing all those extra hoses, fuel rails bolt in from the top instead of the bottom, throttle cable brackets are way easier to get cables in and out of, and the injectors are multi-hole versus single-hole, which i've heard helps with smoothness and keeping temps down. only other niggle is now i need to figure out where the #1 and #3 coils are going to live, since the 6th gen airbox doesn't have the coil mounts on it. at any rate, hopefully this is the end of my injector woes; now i just have to hope i haven't created an entirely new set of problems by trying to use newer parts on stock electronics, although i'm fairly sure i've done exactly that. but once i'm out of this cold snap, i'll plop it on and then hope and pray that this thing finally kicks over. also found time to stick the new fan in; i added the relay out of an abundance of caution about the stock circuit not being able to handle the way higher current draw. now the stock circuit just switches the relay, which provides power to the fan from a direct (fused) line from the battery. it boggles my mind that neither this bike nor my SV650 came with fan relays from factory, though i guess the wimpy fans they came with didn't put much strain on the temp switch. anyway, this new fan fits great, which is awesome considering how little room there is for fans on the vfr, so i'm hoping this preemptively solves any overheating issues.

This was published in late December: https://www.motorcycles.news/en/honda-new-v4-engine-patent/ a bit more detail?

Someone put some work into this. Sorry about FaceBroke link but my wife came across it & I can't find it elsewhere. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17yghFyboK/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Bars will be in exactly same orientation albeit 32mm higher. Aliexpress do em cheap, no better or worse than OEM risers, dunno what shipping is like to USA tho.

Sammy Hagar - RED

This is me.....

Oooh, pot to kettle

Never mind about @Skids ; he's English. They are WEIRD!!! Red's for the WIN....

A common thread for me...waiting for parts or tools. 🙄

Great idea and will try if need be. Exactly what I did, and did make a difference. Great minds.....(forget about the last part of the saying) I did not but used a known good battery from antoher bike. Every thing looked and sounded right except for dry plugs. That said it could be that more than one thing with one being on the cusp of failure.

I find small but noticeable improvements on NC30 and RC30 which have pretty slick gearshifts as standard - the effect is greater on the RC36 with its infamous `kicking a brick` stock shift...

Gentleman, I beg to differ. 😉

They need a thicker blanket....

Ok you lot! Share the pictures of yous making this Dutch delicacy!!!

Sorry dear....

Prior to all the work done, did you hook the VFR's battery to your car's battery (jump cables)?

intake boots.., I don't heat or use products to try and soften the rubber. I wipe a light coat of silicone rubber (o-ring) grease on the leading inner edge of the boots, other side of where the clamps live. helps ease throttle body install greatly.

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

Thanks boOZZIE, I took a punt and purchased the exhaust system off eBay, as it seemed very similar to the 2 Brothers Exhaust. Just have some minor repairs to do on the exhaust, as the bike they came off must have been in an accident. I also have managed to find a High rise Staintune slip on. Appreciate your feedback mate, really happy knowing its a Motad system.

Yeah that's my experience with the BMW R bikes as well. Unfortunately they have other issues. Not many clean STs here on the left coast. I'm in no hurry, and I'm sure one will surface eventually. I wouldn't refuse a nice FJR either, but most stuff I see offered around here has been ridden hard, and put away wet.

Distilled into its simplest form. That is the correct answer! 🏍️😁

You might want to consider trying to soften the boots a bit before re-installing them. I have done this with my old VF1100 Sabres boots and my VF1000R's boots. At the time I could not find replacements for either and I just wanted to get on with it. It worked well for me. Like in the video I used real Wintergreen oil with a 1 part Wintergreen to 3 parts alcohol. You will need to source wintergreen oil, but I managed to find some cheap online. Here is a link to how it works. I will say everybody seems to have their own mixture and way of doing it, so I would spend some time looking at some videos and reading before starting. How To: Restoring Rubber with Wintergreen Oil (No Heat!) - YouTube I also ran into this stuff while looking for ways to soften my boots. I have absolutely no experience with it as I went with the above. Just putting out there if you want to give it a try. 6 oz Rubber Soft! Conditions Rejuvenates Softens Motorcycle Snow ATV UTV Parts | eBay Best of Luck.

Just buy a red one, you can't go wrong, and it's faster.

I have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th Gen VFR in my garage. As you are interested in 4th and 5th Gens I'll limit my opinions to Those. 4th Gen: Bought with 40,000 miles on clock, current 114,000. Last of the carbureted VFR's, as noted by others smooth linear, predictable power band. Simple brake set up, easy to service, works fairly well IMO. Odd 170 called for on rear, I have run 180's on that rim no problem. Currently running a 3rg Gen 5.5" 8 spoke with a 180. Bought with upgraded charging system, so have had zero issues in 74K. Engine is bulletproof, just now one valve is out of spec in 114K. Looks wise, one of the best ever, and not just from Honda. Had it in the Rockies, Dakotas, St. Lawrence seaway to the end of the Gaspe, and all the usual suspects in VA, NC, TN, GA, etc. multiple times. It is truly a great Sport Tourer. 5th Gen. Bought 17 months ago with 11,500 miles, currently 23,750 Sat for 15-19 years, and it showed mechanically, cosmetics pretty good. Rusted tank, dried up brake fluid, etc. Nothing that an average motorcycle owner couldn't deal with, it just took time to sort out. EFI instead of carbs, one of the few things the owner had cleaned before I bought it, no issues. Linked brakes instead of separate systems. I was prepared to hate them, and had de link near the top of my to do list. Still waiting to hate them a year and a half later. De link quietly dropped from my list. They do take a while to bleed, and there is a clear order in how to do it, but if you can read a Service manual, you will be fine. I run a 3rd Gen rear rim on this one also with standard 180 rear, 120 front. As noted above, more tire choices than you've had hot breakfasts. Still running original REG/Rectifier, cleaned all contacts after buying, no issues. Bought a Honda Mosfet for a Honda CB500X on ebay for $26 delivered. Its going in this winter. Had the bike down to VA, NC and up to Cape Breton in Nova Scotia this May. Over to western PA and up to Quebec, and the Gaspe this Sept. and Oct. This is another winner in the Sport Tourer field as far as I'm concerned. It is refined, forgiving, and seems to be like its forbearers, bulletproof. In short, as many have noted here, buy the best example you can find of the 2, and move on. I doubt you will be disappointed. Just because, I'll post side by side pics. Good Luck!