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I sincerely wish you good luck on your project. You will probably find people more familiar with that particular flavor of V4 over here... https://v4musclebike.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4 Have a great weekend.

Yes I acknowledge that mistake. Thanks for the gifs.

Thanks Goldcrown44. It's going to be about a year before I have room in the garage for one. I have to downsize some of my fleet. 😄

Rereading all this more carefully, I see that Terry clearly marked the two plastic tubes that connect the carbs two the fuel supply, one which I have pictured above. What I think I'll do now is to split the fuel line inbound to feed those two (unless you all disagree), put the screws back in the plenum that I took out, and try to start the bike. I assume I will have other, more serious carb issues and then I will remove them, which sounds like a big job, but I was looking for a project. drGian

Yes, I was trying to do this with the carbs still in but I'm pushing pause for a second to ask a question. I believe I found my issue, or at least the fuel leaking issue. I bought this bike from a kid who didn't know anything about it and I don't know when is the last time it ran. There is a fuel line coming from the fuel pump that went straight into the fuel intake port that appears to feed the top two carbs. This had a hose clamp on it, but it was tightened way up from the nipple and I believe the fuel was leaking from there. What I don't understand is that there is another fuel intake port pictured below that looks to me like it would feed the bottom two carbs with nothing attached to it. The question is, does the fuel line from the fuel pump split into two, one that feeds the top and the other the feeds the bottom cylinders? I've been looking for pics or vids or diagrams and no luck yet. It would be weird if this guy sold it to me like that, but I've seen weirder. Thanks.

I have a 2012 DCT with less than 7k (just got it last Summer), and if you find one with old tires on it, it is going to feel quite heavy and sluggish in slower rolls and turns. Once I put new shoes on her (Dunlap RoadSmart IV), it was a night and day difference... to me it felt almost as light as my former 2014 VFR800. Furthermore, I highly encourage you to find one... it is an absolute dream to ride! It's very different having DCT and like Rhonda said, I find myself using manual mode with the paddle shifters along with Sport/Auto mode more than anything. If while in normal Drive mode, one can still manually downshift which is nice when you want to engine brake instead of using the brakes.

Didnt realize that Honda was still manufacturing the Crossrunner. That's an 800 right? Post up some photos when you get it home.

So far, yes the carbs are on the bike. From what I could gather on you tube that was how to do it. Can/should I get the carbs and intake manifold out of the bike and then separate them? If that's the procedure do I just disconnect the fuel line inbound and loosen the clamps holding the carbs in and pull them out?

I've been really impressed by the positive reviews and comments by members regarding the Crossrunner so I started looking and after 10 minutes found this example. 2021, with just 476 miles! I collect it in a couple of weeks and I guess I'll be doing the first service myself then 😁

Are you doing this with the carbs still in the bike?

Well I said I'd wait until next week to dig into it but you guys know how that goes. I can see one of the intake ports on the carb that I can see from the left side has no hose on it, so I suspect that's at least part of the problem. But anyway, I need to get to those carbs. I got the air intake off and I'm working on the intake manifold now. A bunch of screws holding that onto the carbs and amazingly I was able to get all but one of them off. You can see it in the pic. I can't get a screwdriver on it and I certainly can't get an impact driver on it. My question is, do I need to remove the radiator for this job, will that give me access to that screw? I'm already loving the 4 carbs crammed into this frame lol.

That's my bike (or was)! Thanks for the memory Terry. Couldn't afford the new '86 so purchased a new but leftover VF700 tariff bike. The start of a long relationship with Honda V4's, owned that bike for 16 years. Apologies for going slightly off topic. Best wishes on your new project DrGian, you're going to love that motor once you get it running right. Please keep posting your project.

Ok, cool. You might poke around, might be able to find a downloadable PDF version on the webs. You could also download a VF700F version off this site just for general reference, but many small details will be different. The biggest thing is keep the components for each carb separate and controlled. Honda liked doing different jets, jet holders and diaphragm springs for front and rear cylinders on the Magna and Saber.

Perfect, thanks for the details and the repeated details lol. I had a '72 CB 750 for many years and I didn't love dealing with 4 carbs but it looks like I'm back in the same situation. One thing I like about the Harley I have is the single carb but I imagine the performance is much better with one per cylinder. I'll be tearing into this next week and I'll order a Honda service manual. I'll report back! drGian

Wow... we went from a VFR to a Magna really fast. The V65 Magna was the first "FAST" bike I rode. It was fucking fast. Terry is likely correct. The fuel cross over tube o-rings are a very common culprit. Be sure to work with a Service Manual, preferably the Genuine Honda version. You can crack the tubes themselves by removing the carbs incorrectly (as Terry also correctly pointed out). They stay as a unit attached to the plenum when removing. I'm just being a Parrot apparently... Polly says good luck!

It's interesting that I found the exact same pic, but this one has the "LOCKHART" decal on it.

Lockhart-Phillips. The Airtech version copied the design.

Have a set of VF500 side/lower fairings I'm trying to ID. I no longer have the bike they came off and I know they are aftermarket but Google doesn't seem to help with a manufacturer.

Thanks for all the replies and details about the bike. I've been aware of the rim sizes, but something draws me to the '86 model, dunno quite why yet. Bike is about 1 hour away from me, and I will head there after this weekend. Hopefully it won't be sold fast. I'll add some more pictures in case you will notice anything odd, or good. Haven't seen it in person yet, but by looking at the pictures it seems well taken care of.

Huge loss, always eager to provide detail info/solutions. Excellent teacher.

You'll need to get the carbs off the bike to be sure. I believe the wisdom around here is not to unbolt the carbs off the plenum chamber under the airbox; that puts stress on the tubes that connect the carbs fuel supply, which I circled in red. I believe those are plastic, with o-rings. https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-vf700c-magna-1985-f-usa-california_model7599/joint-setfuel_16026mb0671/

Ok agreed, it's maybe not a 'sport bike'. I should have said it's my first bike that's liquid cooled and designed to go fast. Thanks for the intel! Yes, the fuel pump happily clicks along as gas pours out. It doesn't feel like overflow just based on the rate. I think it's a crack or busted O-ring somewhere. I'll start taking it apart tomorrow and report back what I find. it looks exactly like that pic, even the merlot color. Just no fairing or saddlebags.

The black engine cases and "black chrome" mufflers are perfectly stock for non-US markets, see my old photo below, all stock (barring the Motul sticker and the frame/pack). Having the clutch cover text picked out in white is not original. Looks like a Givi rack on the back. Bridgestone make some great BT46 tyres in the correct stock sizes.