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  1. 8 points

    From the album: 2014 California

    © Lorne Black

  2. 8 points
    A few random thoughts from some one who worked as a technician in a Honda dealership from 1979 to 1988. 1st. I know this was 30 years ago but I believe the dealership business model remains the same. Technicians are on the bottom of the pecking order in the dealership. A quick Google search showed that the average motorcycle tech pay is $14.50 a flat rate hour compared to an average $100.00 an hour labor rate. This is about the same pay I was making in 1988 when the labor rate was $35.00 per hour. This being said, a skilled technician will not remain in a motorcycle dealership for very long. I personally went from a Honda motorcycle shop to an Acura dealer when they 1st opened for twice the pay and half the hours worked in a week. 2nd. The person working on your beloved VFR has probably never sat on one much less tried to perform any maintenance on one. Exceptions being shops that are centered on racing or performance tuning will have people on staff that are experienced and have a passion for what they do and are payed accordingly. 3rd. The question of the OP. From my personal experience from adjusting valves on thousands of bikes from 600 mile 1st. services to routine maintenance, very rarely would an adjustment be needed and when needed was not more than a .05 mm. adjustment on a shim over or under bucket adjustment which would not cause any adverse effects reliability or performance. 4th. I bought my '97 VFR with 20k on the clocks in 2012 I went through the bike changed the fluids, plugs and found a valve cover oil leak. When replacing the valve cover gaskets I checked the valve clearances while I was in there. No valves were out of specification. At 45k I had an acceleration issued and rechecked the valve clearance and they were still within specification turned out to be a carburetor issue. 5th. Knowing what I know I would not take my motorcycle to a dealership for any reason other than recall issues and even then when receiving the bike back would go over it with a fine tooth comb before riding it. 6th. Bottom line! Unless you can do the work yourself or have somebody you know and trust to work on it for you, Just ride it till the wheels fall off which will be a lot longer than the average person will keep and ride any motorcycle and save the money from that valve adjustment for new tires and chain and sprockets.
  3. 8 points
    I'm going to school for mechanical drafting. One of my classes this spring was an intro to CNC. This was my final project. Let me know what you think! I really like the design of the 3rd gen VFR logo so I went with that one, though I run a 6th gen. WIP IMAGES: Video showing the backplot https://i.imgur.com/OcCbLUR.mp4 If you CNC and would like to make these I think I can upload the mastercam file. You would need to redo feeds & speeds for your own machine. You also would not be allowed to sell these due to the school license that I used to create the file.
  4. 5 points
    I was riding near the airport in Toronto and shot this pic. This bike never gets boring to look at. Road 5s are scrubbed in and I am impressed so far. Ride safe.
  5. 5 points
    Some 33C+ today for a little SP get together...
  6. 5 points
    Today I ended my Incredible 17 year ownership of my 2002 Honda VFR800 which brought to this forum as a member. I sold her to a good friend who will definitely give the bike a good home. I put over 123,628 miles on it doing my own maintenance thanks to the How to guides posted on this site. I purchased a 2012 VFR1200 in 2015 and LOVE it!! It will be around for years to come. A good friend who sold his 2001 VFR800 back in 2011 was itching to get a new VFR800. Upon seeing that Honda May no longer import them he decided to pull the trigger and purchase a 2014 VFR800 for $6,000 out the door. With my VFR1200 about paid off I wanted a newer model and pulled the trigger and got a 2015 VFR800 Deluxe out the door for $7,800. I made a trip this weekend to Dallas Texas, rented a U-Haul 5’ X 9’ trailer picked up our new VFR800’s and made the drive back last night. That trip was an adventure in itself for telling another day. Prior to releasing the bike I did a Headlight restoration using the Meguiars Heavy Duty kit. The results were amazing. I will post the pictures of that process. I will also post pictures of the bike sold with the final mileage put on it by me. That I got so many miles out that VFR800 is a testament to Honda’s Engineering, Precision and Excellence to detail. That I never had a valve clearance check done is another point of high quality. I will post in the 8th Generation VFR Forum pictures of the new bike. It is an Honor to be part of this Great group of owners and riders.
  7. 4 points
    And here is a clip of him filmed from behind, but he doesn't say whether it is on the same day as the other ride. What a rush just to watch him. The Renault Megane Rs had a hard time keeping up with him, and that car holds a Nurburgring track record.
  8. 4 points
  9. 4 points
    I have changed tires for quite a few riders on this forum. IF you are coming this way to slay the dragon, I am not far from there, 20.00 a wheel and one hour of downtime. You can have your favorite choice of tires shipped here. If you order from https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/ Tires are usually delivered to my address next day. Check me out: http://www.ridewnc.net/services.html
  10. 4 points
    Wow! This place is going the route of the VFR World Forum. That place can get downright nasty. VFRD used to be a pretty civil and appropriately moderated place. It's been apparent for a long time that it's being allowed to die out over time. I think I'll take the route of not doing valve checks based on mine and other's experience of no bad consequences and no experience or knowledge of anyone being killed or maimed due to VFR's with valves being out of spec. (seriously....really?!) I'll also not do it because it's my motorcycle and I can maintain it any way I want. The moral authority here is getting a little over-bearing....and entertaining, LOL!
  11. 4 points
    Nope, don't have to adjust your chain, don't have to replace your tires, don't have to replace your brake pads... but we're not really talking about the same things. Let me just take a few more whacks at this thing... There are some people who blindly follow the rules no matter what. In their mind, it's easier just to follow the rules. In general you are going to be just fine doing this. Your insurance agent loves you. There are some people who tend to ignore any rules they don't feel like following. In general, if you go through life this way, you are sometimes going to have to deal with consequences. Good luck and be sure to keep bail money on hand. The rest of us fall somewhere in between... we weigh our options. The key thing to understand here is that if you do misjudge a situation, you only have yourself to blame. Some guy on an internet forum (me included) isn't going to replace your engine for you just because you took his advice and it didn't work out. I've got a pretty good idea of the amount of work involved in a valve adjustment on a VFR. I also have a rough idea of what it would cost, were I willing to find a dealer I trust to do the service (which I have written off as impossible). I also think I understand the consequences of ignoring the recommended schedule. I'm comfortable that I understand the key factors here. The purpose of this thread is that the OP is trying to understand these factors for himself and make an informed decision and I hope this has been at least a little helpful in that regard. So... what brand of oil do y'all use?
  12. 4 points
    I hit 20,000 miles. Bought brand new in April 2017.
  13. 4 points
    As soon as I build an airplane with a VFR engine, I'll be sure to follow a strict maintenance schedule. Since I'm not relying on my motorcycle engine to keep me airborne, since I do my own maintenance and since a burnt valve isn't the end of the world, I'm willing to make some risk-based judgement calls. I change my fluids and filters, I keep things adjusted, I torque things properly... Enough about the bloody airplanes!
  14. 3 points
    Thanks for the community, folks. I’m Grateful that things like this exist. Anyways... Found myself bike-less, because reasons, but suddenly I had the opportunity to buy this canary yellow 2000 VFR. I got it for 2K, smooth. 25k miles on the clock and it looks minty fresh. I just put a plate on it today, rode it around, and I’m going to have to look into the battery/charging situation, (I have already read about “the drill”), and I’m still getting a feel for how to ride it. This is my first sporty-bike. I have always ridden big tourers and cruisers, and my most recent bike was a 2016 Road Glide that I hated more than I loved. The good news is, it runs really great, goes like a scalded dog, and is easily the fastest bike I have ever owned.
  15. 3 points
    The VFR was a street legal 2001 without Dual CBS and with a GPR exhaust and metal braided tubes - nothing more according to the poster. Bridgestone BT 016 PRO tires. Almost 54,000km on the clock. Proves the point that the rider's skills are more important than all the power mods in the world. I am not sure what that momentary screech is at about 4'.20''
  16. 3 points
    Having rode my 5 Gen all last year at the track, I would never say that the VFR s too slow or heavy for track time. That being said, I have trimmed some weight off and have improved several aspects of the bike but ultimately, IMO, track days aren’t about being the fastest or having the lightest best setup bike, it’s for improving your riding skills and to get better acquainted with your bike.
  17. 3 points
    Managed to get the laser cut piece mounted and I am very pleased with the fitment, the VFR logo makes it stand out very well (thank you VFRpwr for that suggestion) I'm going to give the manufacture the go-ahead and get the remaining parts made! If there is anyone else that is interested in these let me know! - $19.50 CAD + Shipping Installation Instructions.pdf
  18. 3 points
    Nope . Should be easy enough to make. Personally I think it looks crap.
  19. 3 points
    What could be better, just fitted the screen while listening to the TT practice on Manx radio. Thought you should have a few photos. Screen fitted but will need a little trim A photo with the seat off, you can see the rear exhaust and the new catch tank. The last one is a riders eye view
  20. 3 points
    I picked up oem panniers today, very happy with how they look on the bike.
  21. 3 points
    Any other questions you would like answered Lazyeye🤣
  22. 3 points
    It's funny how much self-righteous condescension some people can drum up over issues like this. I'm all in favor of taking someone to task for running with bald, checked tires, or worn out brakes. With this though, I'm hard pressed to come up with a scenario that ends in an injury because valve clearance went out of spec! If it goes as far as getting stranded you've not only ignored the recommended intervals, you've been ignoring the symptoms because I'm fully confident that the engine will start to behave differently long before failure. I get where you are coming from with the whole "philosophy" angle... but to act like anyone who doesn't share your opinion is "a fairly sorry excuse for a motorcyclist" is counterproductive at best. You seem to have mistaken your bike for a high horse.
  23. 3 points
    No way I'm letting someone else wrench on my bike. No way I'm deviating from the maintenance schedules per Honda. I paid, in part, for that engineered maintenance schedule created by Honda. If I have to spend $$$ for a tool or tools that I don't have and will only use once, so be it. That's the price for peace of mind. I look at something like adjusting the valves as curriculum for a technical collage course (university of Hard Knocks, you know) and treat as such with research. I'm better afterwards on several accounts, including keeping my mind as fresh as possible for a 61 year old processor. The worst case scenario is that the valves, not a single one, needed adjustment, and I spent some money that I didn't need to spend, but what an education and experience! I guess that it comes down to pride of ownership and acceptance of a pleasant (to me) challenge. That is all. Semper Fi
  24. 3 points
    New exhaust fitted 😁 SC Project conic titanium
  25. 3 points
    Just to add data: did the valve check at recommended 48000km. Three tight valves. VTEC 2002. None of the tight valves were VTEC-valves if I remember correctly. Honda makes good engines, but they don't make magical unicorn engines that don't need maintenance regularly (we'll have to wait for them to jump on the electric bandwagon for that to happen). Each to their own, but I felt I liked my bike enough to service it as Honda intended. And I had the monetary means to do it as well... Edit: And to add even more data: the valve clearance adjustments fixed my sometimes hard to start symptoms completely.
  26. 3 points
    I just moved over to an 8th Generation VFR800 from my 6th Generation VFR800 putting 124628 miles on it over 17 years and NEVER had a valve clearance check accomplished and NEVER had any problems with the way the engine worked. I replaced the cam chain tensioners in 2009 and they are STILL running strong!! This IS a TESTAMENT to the ENGINEERING QUALITY of Honda.
  27. 3 points
    I am a "non-maintainer" in your book who has owned 3 "un-maintained valve" VFR's with zero engine run-ability or performance deterioration problems. The VFR has a better engine, apparently, than airplanes. Taking any risk with a passenger airplane is nuts, especially one I'm on...... Ride a VFR hard where I do and you might be amazed that such "non-maintainers of valves" like me and others have VFR's that still go longer than most people want to have a VFR or longer than most are capable of riding a VFR safely. I've never heard of anyone "wearing out" a VFR engine after being around them for over 15 years. Finding someone competent to check valves properly is a genuine issue. Finding a VFR engine that has noticeable valve problems or engine problems due to having "non-maintained" valves is not on record anywhere. There must be a reason. I have a strict opinion after observing and experiencing what a VFR engine needs and doesn't need after many years. I am going to stay off mine today after two days of mountain riding brutality on the engine, then gleefully, loud and proudly, celebrate doing it again and again and again confident there will be no "valve damage" on my third VFR. Real life records and experience speak louder than an owner's manual in this particular engine maintenance procedure. I suspect more damage is done by just going into the VFR engine for valve checks than just leaving them alone. I truly respect your opinion, Greg. Diversity is what keeps life going. I also trust mine and other's experience. Let's all have fun with one of the best, most durable motorcycle engines ever made.
  28. 3 points
    Update for you. So going around the block to get next door, turned out to be the SMC after all. However, the two rear pistons after being replaced (as well as the center one) started working like they were supposed to. What we didn't seem to notice the last time is that, although the SMC was activating the center piston like it was supposed to, it did it from a relative piston position. To clarify that last statement, if the center piston was all the way in the caliper, the SMC would pop it out its typical length but would release. If the piston was partially out, it would again pop out its typical length and return back in. However, if the piston was out far enough to press the pads to the rotor, the center piston would not release. So in a sense, the SMC was working like it was supposed to when activated but not in a standing position. This is something we over looked when we had the two outer pistons give us fits. At first I thought I could get away with tearing the SMC apart completely and resolve whatever was causing the issue with a thorough cleaning. Alas, that was not the case. As luck would have it though, SFDownhill had an SMC laying around from his 5 gen brake De-link, so I was able to grab the one he had and installed it this morning with the assistance and moral support of fellow member HammerDrill. I pulled the old one off and put the used one on and bled the system (it goes real fast with speed bleeders BTW) so within a manner of a few minutes i was able to test the system and viola! it worked. All I can say is that if there was anything plugging up the SMC, I couldn't see it. All I can think of is that there's a little check valve inside the SMC where the main and return holes are and it was a bit worse for the wear cleanliness wise, but I did pull it apart and give it a good cleaning. SMC with check valve in place. Check valve removed and both holes clean and unobstructed. The light you see is from my flashlight I placed at the mouth of the piston hole. The check valve as viewed from the top. The underside of the check valve. If you open this little goodie up, you'll find a ball bearing held in place with a spring that is on the under side of this cap. Not sure if this goodie is beyond its service life or maybe I really didn't clean it well enough. I will say there was a "light" mud substance in the SMC and the owner of the bike said he had some of the same substance in the caliper, so who knows.
  29. 2 points
    At least 3 of those 8g headers are for 5th/6th gen bikes because we want the splayed front tubes to accommodate a low mounted front radiator. To me it makes more sense to batch these with the 5/6 header run. I owe an update on centerstand stops. I've been busy bouncing around other jobs in my shop but I will get to them!
  30. 2 points
  31. 2 points
    Nice score, a lot like the deal I made on my '98. I think these bikes are still very under-valued (in the North Eastern US at least) and there are some great deals to be had if you are lucky, patient or both. Your bike looks pretty stock aside from the windscreen and end can (arguably a good thing). Did this bike come with a documented maintenance history? If not, and given that your new ride is 19yrs old, I think you are on the right track with 'the drill' and I'd also suggest a thorough assessment and refresh of the fuel system, brakes & fluid, clutch & fluid, cooling system & hoses and also replace the plugs for good measure. I have found that more owners are reactive rather than proactive, and that ends up leading to a lot of "deferred" maintenance to put it nicely. There are a lot of threads documenting all the work you might do and this board (and VFRWorld for that matter) is both friendly and supportive. Good luck and happy riding! The Drill: https://vfrworld.com/threads/how-to-fix-common-regulator-stator-failures.39277/ GiD's refurb thread: https://vfrworld.com/threads/refurbishing-my-99-5th-gen.52488/
  32. 2 points
    Hi! I fell in love with my viffer again, this exhaust sounds so nice... the real sounds it´s much better than the video shows, but I´ll share with you guys. And the looks... 😍
  33. 2 points
    Mate, I don't think your question really has much relavance, as mechanics and dealerships are going to vary enormously all over the world. BUT hopefully all the info supplied in this thread (ignoring some of the egotistical stuff) from some very experienced people will go a long way to help you make an informed decision whichever way you go. YMMV. Cheers.
  34. 2 points
    Guys. The VTec valves are not tricky to do, it is just time consuming. The special part is a little 4/5mm diameter stopper that holds the valve actuator across to allow the valve and bucket to contact each other. I've done it many times and it is: (this is per bank. EG: Front or rear. Don't do both at the same time) 1. Set up the cam timing and pull the cams 2. Lift the VTec buckets and install the "stoppers" 3. Assemble it all back together and do the cam timing. 4. Measure and record all the clearances. 5. Work out which are out of tolerance. 6. Set up the cam timing and pull the cams 7. Pull the out of tolerance shims and replace with correct ones 8. Assemble it all back together and do the cam timing 9. Measure and compare the clearances 10. Readjust ones still not correct by repeating steps 6 thru 9 11. Once all is OK, set cam timing again and pull cams 12. Remove stoppers from all VTec buckets 13. Reassemble cams and do timing. 14. Move to next bank. As you can see it is time consuming as even if they are all in tolerance you still have to pull the cams twice to fit and remove the stoppers. My 2.5 cents woorth. Phil
  35. 2 points
    Problem with brushed staters is they have nowhere for the brush wear residue/dust to go. So the brushes start to stick which increases arcing that increases wear. If you ever need to replace a set of brushes & they are NLA then just go to a car parts place & buy a set. They are all bigger than bike ones, then cut them to shape to fit your starter motor ! Give it a full clean & degrease & all good to go like new again.
  36. 2 points
    Adding "The Drill" link. Hey look, I can thank myself... 🤣
  37. 2 points
  38. 2 points
    Tires came in today, Michelin pilot power 2C. Very easy to mount. The first bead goes on easy by hand, then (just in case it gave me trouble) I zip tied the tire to the rim and pulled it tight into the rim well and spooned it on. It really couldn't have bean easier. For me it's not about saving money. I just want to know it was done right. I had a really bad experience at a dealership years ago and I just have a hard time turning my bike over to someone that's in a hurry to get the job done. I use a torque wrench on every bolt, carefully remove the old wheel weights and balance the wheels to my satisfaction. It rides smooth, and turn in seems good.
  39. 2 points
  40. 2 points
    Pollen levels are very high, but that's not stopping me riding.....
  41. 2 points
    Might have just been an optical illusion that your new one looks slightly smaller in diameter than the old one. WARNING! Just noticed another thing that concerns me with your new one. You appear to have one Black and two Clear zip ties most likely supporting the output wires. Not a good environment inside your engine for zip ties, they will surely become brittle and break ending up in you engine internals. There is absolutely no way I would rely on a zip tie inside my engine!
  42. 2 points
    the best kind of problems are the simplest ones! Though sadly the easiest ones to over look... Great you figured it out
  43. 2 points
    My (low mile) '99 was doing that - though it wasn't giving that bump up at 2,000 rpm. The original R/R had voltage dropping steadily from the high 13's to the low 13's as RPM's came up. A new R/R now has it around 14.2 to 14.4 at all RPM's. Though I would check the stator (if you're adventuresome pull the cover and take a look), 5th gens don't seem to eat stators for breakfast the way 6th gens do. A replacement R/R is certainly cheaper (and more convenient) than a failure a long way from home. Definitely good to get it sorted before a trip.
  44. 2 points
  45. 2 points
    Just put a deposit on this. 29 years old 1 owner 4000 miles. I will cherish this one!
  46. 2 points
    It's fuel injected. If it has sat for a long time, check the air filter to make sure it's breathing clearly and no mouse have made homes above the filter and blocked the air flow. If no nastyness is there, it may need the injectors cleaned, try a fuel treatment first and dump a bunch in for a tank or two (cheapest fixes first!). Spark plugs should be tested to make sure all are sparking up, and they may need replaced (next item on cheapest fix list). If that doesn't clear it up, you may need to pull the injectors to have them cleaned. There isn't a dearth of low end power on these bikes, the torque curve is pretty flat. If all that doesn't cure the problems, it's helpful to find a local VFR owner and compare the bikes - if you're used to a Hayabusa, the VFR will feel underpowered at low RPM's, but it's no slouch. (I've owned lots of bikes and the VFR is a good performer when in proper tune). My guess is the fuel has varnished in the injectors and a big bottle of Techron or seafoam or whatever you prefer will clear it out - barring an issue with air or spark. Best of luck tracking it down - and let us know what you find out!
  47. 2 points
    I'm not sure of the comparison of airline pilot to shadetree mechanic. It does not compute. No airline pilot has ever turned a wrench on a commercial aircraft for one. Like was mentioned earlier, out of spec valve clearances will not cause a catastrophic failure leading to the deaths of hundreds. I spent money on my first valve check on my '99 and it was all in spec well after the first called for check. I then learned (not VTEC) how to do it on my own. I've since had one check with out of spec valves at something like 75K miles. It was surely running out of spec for some time without bursting into flames or exploding. I'm at over 103,800 miles. Not maintaining valve clearance does not mean ignoring all maintenance. No one is advocating ignoring the drive chain, oil filter, oil level, (if applies) cam chain, brake/clutch fluid, brake pads, etc... Ignore your valve clearance. Will your performance degrade over time? Likely. Will you die or kill others? No. (I respect pilots, I earned a SEL license in 1992, I've also been friends with A&P mechanics)
  48. 2 points
    I have just reassembled my VFR750R RC24 following a complete respray including new decals that are clear coated over .... the duco looks better than when it left Mr Honda’s factory in April 1986. 😀 36
  49. 2 points
    Off Topic... A scheduled flight got cancelled due to a "technical malfunction". Thus I was denied the inconvenience compensation stated by (EU) law, because this was "force majeur". Since they have and are very proud of their maintenance procedures and schedules.... I requested a copy of the error and subsequent repair completion report, but got ignored twice. Then the governnent's Transport Department asked and got ignored twice. They ignored my lawyer twice until they received a draft invitation to come to a court. Did they produce the documents? Hell no, they decided to pay out "as an exception". Well yippykayee KLM... So yeah, I "trust" airlines because I kinda have to. Crossing the Atlantic is a bloody long swim 🙂 My 1st scheduled inspection was disadvised by the Honda dealership. By the next time,the cost of a 2nd hand engine was 50% of the inspection cost. By the next 24,000t 25% YMMV as always...
  50. 2 points

    From the album: Adventures

    Going to the Sun Road near Logan Pass
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