Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted December 1, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 1, 2013 how many miles were on the engine? and how were you riding when it ate itself??? the valves look dark ---rich like dirty air filter bad gas etc-- they should have a brown look to them those plugs never lie---- What did I do? I bought the stupid thing. On the valve clearance issue, the screw wears from new to an angle & if you then adjust it, there is much less material in contact with the valve stem, so it wears much quicker after adjustment ! Buy a spare set of tappet screws & swap them when you do a valve adjustment, then face the old ones flat for reuse next time ! Valve adjustment stays good for longer ! Also lever the Y rocker up at its centre when measuring the clearances, to avoid any excess clearance from rock on the rocker shaft. Good luck with the rebuild. Good tip. I'll have to look at that closely for the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer JamieDaugherty Posted December 2, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 2, 2013 Fresh oil every 2500 miles Whenever I see this it makes me shudder. The oil should be changed every 1000 miles, maybe 1500 max. Motorcycle oil is not the same as car oil, it is whooped at a fraction of the miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veefer800Canuck Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 On a side note, Thomas Midgley contracted lead poisoning as a result of experimenting with TEL, and although debilitated, not die from it. He contracted polio at age 51 and was severely disabled as a result. He rigged a rope and pulley contraption over his bed to help lift him, got tangled up in the ropes one day and died of strangulation. Well, aren't you just a little ray of sunshine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 2, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 2, 2013 On a side note, Thomas Midgley contracted lead poisoning as a result of experimenting with TEL, and although debilitated, not die from it. He contracted polio at age 51 and was severely disabled as a result. He rigged a rope and pulley contraption over his bed to help lift him, got tangled up in the ropes one day and died of strangulation. Well, aren't you just a little ray of sunshine? And smoked it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 What a way to go. I'm hoping to go when I'm about 95. Shot by a much younger jealous husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted December 2, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 2, 2013 And I want to go in my sleep like my grandfather.... not screaming and cursing like the other 4 people in the car he was driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 Motorcycle oil is not the same as car oil, it is whooped at a fraction of the miles. Negative... our oil is not "whooped" at a faction of those miles... what decides oil life is the additive package which 10% by volume of the total oil and according to Honda's engineers a typical additive package last 8K miles... if you are worried about your oil being so called "whooped" send a sample to a lab for analysis because only they will tell you if your fears are shaky ground or not... http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 Tetraethyl lead was extensively used as an additive to gasoline wherein it served as an effective ntiknock agent and prevented exhaust valve True... the *primary* reason for Midgley discovering Tet lead was anti knock... in addition it arrest seat wear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFRBert Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Fresh oil every 2500 miles Whenever I see this it makes me shudder. The oil should be changed every 1000 miles, maybe 1500 max. Motorcycle oil is not the same as car oil, it is whooped at a fraction of the miles. Tests indicate, there is no difference between motorcycle and car oils. Deteroriation of viscosity is highest during the first 800 miles of use. http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm Testresults at the end of the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyr62 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No, please, no, not another oil thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 You done it now !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFRBert Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Oil is good in lubricating discussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 If this is going to ignite yet another "Oil Thread" please for the sake of the sanity of all concerned start a new thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFRBert Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Oil discussions are endless, so i won't participate in it. The only things about oil i believe are results from research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 Here it comes ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 Oil? Baby oil and coeds?? Pictures??? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFRBert Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He's waiting for the oil fejitists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 Toldja .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 VFRD is famous for its "Unbelievable Amount of Technical Knowledge"... we earned that title by having one good technical discussion after another that challenge our notions of consumables like tires gas and oil... so let us embrace and add to the knowledge base or just skip over the topic in silence out of respect for others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I agree with BLS, but please let it be silence, every forum I have ever been a member of that debated oils has ended up in a "flaming" war. Unfortunately there are far too many oil experts out there, and they can never agree with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer 2thdr Posted December 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 You will be pleasantly surprised to find this bunch to be more grown up than that. We frequently have disagreement without discord... Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 "You will be pleasantly surprised to find this bunch to be more grown up than that. We frequently have disagreement without discord..." I hope you are correct. Still off topic. So that it is not hijacking YoshiHNS' thread, a new thread is needed for an oil debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted December 5, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 5, 2013 ....a new thread is needed for an oil debate. No. I'm pretty sure we don't need a new thread for an oil debate. I'm going to order parts this weekend for a rebuild. Still have to take care of the spare valves head I have first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFRBert Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 An oil debate would be useless, since there is a big difference in brands and oil typ's between the US and Europe. I listen to the real experts, there is one tuning specialist in the Netherlands, who has tuned engines to the extreme. He approves only a few brands of oil, because with other brands and types he seas to much wear and tear. ....a new thread is needed for an oil debate. No. I'm pretty sure we don't need a new thread for an oil debate. I'm going to order parts this weekend for a rebuild. Still have to take care of the spare valves head I have first. succes with the rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmythecop Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I'm going to order parts this weekend Lets argue USPS Vs. UPS, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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