Member Contributer tbzep Posted December 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 7, 2013 Here's what I've found while researching huggers for the 6th gen. Hopefully it will help someone decide what they want. Note that exchange rates vary constantly. I saw British Pounds to USD change in the 10 minutes I was doing price conversions. Outside of the Harris and Geelong, fit and finish varied among users. I don't know if this was quality control issues or varying capabilities of installers....or both. UK VFR guys tend to like the Harris and NWS, but there are fans of all the brands listed. Some of our European members should get their hands on all of these and compare fit, stiffness, and finish quality comparison. Harris: Made in UK. Carbon fiber or Fiberglass. Excellent fit and finish. Very expensive to ship. Does not cover the SSSA or lower link. Total including shipping for CF $317, Fiberglass $262 at current exchange rates. Red Fox: Made in UK. ABS. Issues with splitting a few years ago. Not seeing anything now. Don't know if they've remedied the issue. Mounts on top of chain guard. $155 shipped. Flasher2001's Red Fox Powerbronze: Made in UK. Fiberglass or ABS. Mounts on chain guard. Does not cover SSSA or lower link. Uses zip ties for mounting. $135 including shipping from website. $145 from eBay. Skidmarx: Made in UK. Carbon Fiber or Fiberglass. Some of the UK VFR forum guys seem to like them, but I didn't find much info. CF $199 plus shipping. Fiberglass $117 plus shipping. (Have to go through checkout to find shipping.) Pyramid: ABS. Made in UK. Covers SSSA and lower link. Uses OEM chain guard. $204 (currently out of stock) NWS: ABS. Now owned by Pyramid but the old NWS design is still offered. Covers SSSA and lower link. Price including shipping $199. Geelong: Carbon fiber. Looks very good. Probably on par with Harris. Made in Australia. Does not cover SSSA or lower link. By far the most expensive at $419 plus shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer deltaboxii Posted December 7, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 7, 2013 I am very happy with my Red Fox. Quick shipping and good customer service. Seems to be doing a good job of keeping crud out of my Ohlins shock so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tbzep Posted December 7, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 7, 2013 I am very happy with my Red Fox. Quick shipping and good customer service. Seems to be doing a good job of keeping crud out of my Ohlins shock so far. How long and how many miles have you had it? It's very possible that some changes were made to help stop them from splitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer deltaboxii Posted December 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 Not that long, maybe about 6 months and a few thousand miles. I have never heard of these having issues, I heard the PB ones were crap actually. Most people on this forum seemed to be happy with the RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tbzep Posted December 8, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 Not that long, maybe about 6 months and a few thousand miles. I have never heard of these having issues, I heard the PB ones were crap actually. Most people on this forum seemed to be happy with the RF. There aren't a lot of references to Red Fox on this forum. Of course there may be some I haven't found, as Miguel has the search feature exclude words with three letters or less. I've read more about them on the UK forum. Most of the references are a few years old, which leads me to hope that the splitting problems have been solved. Your updated information is why started this thread, so that we can get up to date hands on experiences of all these huggers in one thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted December 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 Thanks, I'm actually shopping for one now. But I want to replace the OEM guard. I sent Skidmarx an email to see what their shipping would be to the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted December 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 I have the Pyramid.. not all that great... I ended up cutting it about in half so it wouldnt flex and hit the tire. With mods, its just ok. linking up a previous thread...... http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/76402-nws-or-pyramid/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tbzep Posted December 8, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 Thanks, I'm actually shopping for one now. But I want to replace the OEM guard. I sent Skidmarx an email to see what their shipping would be to the states. Be sure to post it here. If I can still edit it, I'll include it in the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 It's really too bad that Travis stopped making his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayStar2009 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Since installing the Competition Werkes fender kit on my '09, the road debris mainly flings up on the tail light and inside of the pipes. Once in a while I'll wipe off the little mud flap in front of the rear shock. Though I've thought of adding a hugger, I don't see how a hugger is going to stop very much when it's curvature stops at the 12 o'clock position above the tire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted December 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 It's really too bad that Travis stopped making his. Was that the Al one? I know I've seen an Al one for the VFR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tbzep Posted December 8, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 Since installing the Competition Werkes fender kit on my '09, the road debris mainly flings up on the tail light and inside of the pipes. Once in a while I'll wipe off the little mud flap in front of the rear shock. Though I've thought of adding a hugger, I don't see how a hugger is going to stop very much when it's curvature stops at the 12 o'clock position above the tire? They are designed to keep crap from being flung forward into the shock, linkage, and rear cylinder bank. It's really too bad that Travis stopped making his. Was that the Al one? I know I've seen an Al one for the VFR. Travis (rivcyko) made nice fiberglass huggers with integrated chain guards and painted them to match the bike. He also made other fiberglass items such as the bug screen to keep bees and crap from getting sucked under the windscreen into your neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer HighSideNZ Posted December 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 I've had to repair my Red Fox twice now due to splitting. The last repair I laid multiple layers of epoxy/fibreglass inside and reinforced with aluminium. Since doing this it has lasted pretty well but it only took about 3000km for the splitting to occur. I'm looking for another option currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieg Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I've had to repair my Red Fox twice now due to splitting. The last repair I laid multiple layers of epoxy/fibreglass inside and reinforced with aluminium. Since doing this it has lasted pretty well but it only took about 3000km for the splitting to occur. I'm looking for another option currently. Same here although I used a combination of epoxy resin reinforced with duct tape on the inside. IMO the Red Fox hugger is too flimsy Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciprinakos Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Since installing the Competition Werkes fender kit on my '09, the road debris mainly flings up on the tail light and inside of the pipes. Once in a while I'll wipe off the little mud flap in front of the rear shock. Though I've thought of adding a hugger, I don't see how a hugger is going to stop very much when it's curvature stops at the 12 o'clock position above the tire? They are designed to keep crap from being flung forward into the shock, linkage, and rear cylinder bank. Imagine how this: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/gallery/image/64987-foto-052jpg/ would have looked like without hugger comparing with these: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/gallery/image/64982-foto-047jpg/ http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/gallery/image/64986-foto-051jpg/ I definitely recommend the upgrade to save the shock, linkage, and rear cylinder bank some cleaning & wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted December 8, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2013 It's really too bad that Travis stopped making his. I bought one of the last 2 he made. There were a few minor fitment issues initially, but once sorted it's been rock solid - really nice product. I saw one a year or so ago on ebay. The hugger definitely keeps things much cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted December 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 10, 2013 Thanks, I'm actually shopping for one now. But I want to replace the OEM guard. I sent Skidmarx an email to see what their shipping would be to the states. Be sure to post it here. If I can still edit it, I'll include it in the original post. Skidmarx sent me to their US distributor: Streetfighters By Design David Cork Phone-772-597-3207 Email sbd@davidcork.com www.streetfightersbydesign.com Cost is $165 Black fiberglass/plastic and $265 carbon fiber. Shipping to CA for me is $15. I'm going to give the fiberglass one a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGREGT Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Do any of these work with a 6th gen with ABS (and I mean anti lock brakes here, not ABS plastic.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkov Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hi guys, i just ordered one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171167862052?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 It is non ABS model (if there is abs model at all), the price i offered was 50 quid and the seller is ok with that. Looks like a good deal. I hope to get the hugger by the end of nex week, so will keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 10, 2013 $82.00 plus shipping to states. Hmmmmm not bad .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkov Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 From what i see it is the last one. There were 3 available in sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tbzep Posted December 10, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 10, 2013 $82.00 plus shipping to states. Hmmmmm not bad .. Harris wanted about $140 to ship to the USA. If this guy wants something similar it's not a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayarearider Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 To be clear, the Skidmarx is a two piece unit but still looks pretty good replacing the oem chainguard. I think you'll be happy with the final look. Back in 2012 that same distributor did a group buy for a less than 10qty run with VFRD. Save about $15 or so. Maybe enough to have other members pull the trigger on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted December 11, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 11, 2013 Didn't realize it was two pieces when I ordered. Wonder how it will look without the brake lines attached. http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/71995-skidmarx-hugger/?hl=skidmarx http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/71216-interest-in-skidmarx-hugger-group-buy/?hl=skidmarx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 11, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hmmmmmm .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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