trmoyer Posted July 31, 2022 Posted July 31, 2022 Occasionally on start up my lcd screen time & trips reset. It’s not every time though, maybe after the bike has set a week. I haven’t had time to dig into connections and grounding. On one of the Facebook forums someone else was having this issue but I didn’t see a result from a repair. A couple people jumped to the R/R as a culprit but there was no explanation of why so I'm skeptical. I replaced mine a couple years ago. Before I dig in and chase my tail, is there a recommended direction for tracking down a possible cause? Quote
Member Contributer Skids Posted July 31, 2022 Member Contributer Posted July 31, 2022 Have you done a battery voltage test? Ignition OFF, engine at idle, engine at 5k rpm I believe is the usual method. Sounds like it's battery related possibly caused by R/R. Quote
trmoyer Posted July 31, 2022 Author Posted July 31, 2022 I have not checked charging voltage yet or the battery yet. The battery is the simplest thing to start with. It is also a couple years old as I’d replaced it when I did the R/R. It’s plugged into a Tender during the off season. Quote
Member Contributer raYzerman Posted July 31, 2022 Member Contributer Posted July 31, 2022 Was the replacement R/R an OEM or a mofset? Quote
trmoyer Posted July 31, 2022 Author Posted July 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, raYzerman said: Was the replacement R/R an OEM or a mofset? It’s a Super Mosfet Kit FH020AA from Jack @ Roadstercycle 1 Quote
Member Contributer Terry Posted July 31, 2022 Member Contributer Posted July 31, 2022 A clock resetting when you start the bike is a classic symptom of a dying battery. 2 Quote
trmoyer Posted July 31, 2022 Author Posted July 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Terry said: A clock resetting when you start the bike is a classic symptom of a dying battery. Sigh….. I was hoping to get a bit more time out of it but I know all to well batteries are a gamble. They just aren’t made like they used to. Quote
trmoyer Posted August 29, 2022 Author Posted August 29, 2022 Well, I still haven’t dug into the original question but I do know keeping the battery tender on it all week between rides keeps the problem from happening lol. I should just set down, spend the little amount of time really takes and trouble shoot this correctly. If it is the battery, I’ll probably nurse it along until the end of the season and put it on the “to do” list for next spring. Quote
vfrgiving Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 @trmoyer I'm not sure if you're still monitoring this thread, but I had similar issues with clock resets on starting. This seems to have been fixed after I pulled and cleaned the blue connector and receiving socket on the back of the instrument cluster with an electrical contact cleaner. That connector carries the power supply for the LCD display. I believe this issue to be related to a poor connection, probably from oxidation build up. 1 Quote
VeeEffArah Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, vfrgiving said: @trmoyer I'm not sure if you're still monitoring this thread, but I had similar issues with clock resets on starting. This seems to have been fixed after I pulled and cleaned the blue connector and receiving socket on the back of the instrument cluster with an electrical contact cleaner. That connector carries the power supply for the LCD display. I believe this issue to be related to a poor connection, probably from oxidation build up. On that connector subject, did you do just a spray clean, let dry and plug back in ? I've read a couple conflicting suggestions whether to add like dielectric grease or ox-gard or similar. Quote
vfrgiving Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, VeeEffArah said: On that connector subject, did you do just a spray clean, let dry and plug back in ? I've read a couple conflicting suggestions whether to add like dielectric grease or ox-gard or similar. I just hosed the connector and socket down with Deoxit let dry and put back together. So far that has fixed two connector related issues I was having on different VFR dashes, clock resets and a non-functioning turn signal indicator.. If a connector related connection issue pops up again in the future, I like the idea of putting little dabs of Ox-gard on just the connector pins before plugging back in, after the cleaning with a spray contact cleaner like Deoxit. I did tweak the connector pins upwards a tiny amount with an o-ring pick, but I'm not sure that did much of anything. I would just try the cleaning and ox-gard approach. The copper traces in the socket are very delicate as they are part of the flex membrane circuit that covers the back of the dash. I wouldn't be poking or scrubbing around in there. Just the spray clean. 2 Quote
Wilhermo Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Hello all, I have just had this problem with my VFR 800 FI from 1999: I rode the bike on Sunday for 2 hours and then I rode again after work yesterday (wednesday) and I noticed that the clock and trips have been reset. The bike took maybe 1 to 2 seconds longer as usual to start too. I know that the electric can be a huge problem therefore I look for solutions online in order to find asap what it is. I have tested the battery today: ignition off 12,4V ignition on 11,7V start and idle 12,3V 2000rpm 14,1V 5000 rpm 14,2V then off again 13,4V the bike was cold when I made the measurement The battery is 1yo, the last owner has made the change during the last service in a garage and the rectifier is not teh original one (RX41 15H0) and seems to come from a GSX1300, but I don't know since when it is here. Could someone help me to diagnose the issue ? do I need to change the R/R and the battery ? Quote
Member Contributer Mohawk Posted April 17 Member Contributer Posted April 17 Sounds like a duff battery or dodgy wiring. 12v battery should read 12.6v+ at rest. Anything lower is considered flat, as witnessed by the at rest with ignition on being below 12v. Suggest a good recovery charger be tried if that doesn't work replace the battery. Quote
Wilhermo Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Hey, thank you, The bike stayed parked during the winter and I removed the battery during that time and performed a full cycle with a Ctek. After that I rode 3 times in March and April without issue If it is a sign of a duff battery, so spontanuously, it might have to be with a wiring issue or R/R issue too ? Quote
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted April 17 Member Contributer Posted April 17 If you have a multimeter you can use this chart to evaluate the R/R and stator condition. And check the charging system connectors for evidence of overheating. fault-finding-diagram.pdf Can also download the chart here: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1091/5694/files/fault-finding-diagram.pdf?235929069374954073 1 Quote
trmoyer Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 I’ll see soon enough if my problem continues again this season, I haven’t gotten the bike out of hibernation yet. I’m planning on a new battery so we’ll see if that cures things ans everything checked out previously with voltage while running and the R/R had already been replaced / upgraded. Quote
Member Contributer Terry Posted April 17 Member Contributer Posted April 17 My 99 did the same thing after a hot restart; a new battery was all that was needed. Your voltmeter readings look good to me, IIRC Honda says 13.5-14.5V at 5000 and you are golden. Quote
Wilhermo Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Thank you all for yours answers. I have just put the battery on charge and then I will try the fault finding process from vfrcapn, it looks like a great tool to have, especially for me, having low experience with electrical issues. I am just a bit worry that the battery has already been changed last year by the previous owner and it could mean that there is something else wrong in the system Looking at some post, I understand that it doesn't seem unusual to change it every 2 or 3 years. Quote
VeeEffArah Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Battery is the simplest and most direct to begin with. And could be that battery is dead, even if fairly new. Especially if it wasn't kept on a maintainer over the winter. From your previous post, it seems you just charged it once during the off season? Quote
Member Contributer MBrane Posted April 18 Member Contributer Posted April 18 I see you have discovered the battery replacement indicator. Seriously charge the battery, and let it sit for 24 hours. If it doesn't show at least 12.6 V replace it. 2 Quote
Member Contributer bmart Posted April 18 Member Contributer Posted April 18 And if it has been very low....you may be able to bring it back by connecting it to a known, good, larger (car) battery and then charging. Motobatt taught me that and I've used it a few times and the batteries lasted many years after. Quote
Member Contributer St. Stephen Posted April 18 Member Contributer Posted April 18 Where’s Grum? 1 Quote
Wilhermo Posted April 19 Posted April 19 On 4/17/2025 at 7:10 PM, vfrcapn said: If you have a multimeter you can use this chart to evaluate the R/R and stator condition. And check the charging system connectors for evidence of overheating. fault-finding-diagram.pdf 301.13 kB · 14 downloads Can also download the chart here: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1091/5694/files/fault-finding-diagram.pdf?235929069374954073 Hello all, I have charge the battery and check after one night how much it has lost, it kept 12,8V after almost 24h. I put it back in the motorcycle to start the fault procedure from VFRcapn and i found that at the battery I have more than 13,5V at 2500rpm and less than 14,8 at 5000rpm. Which is good. Anyway I decided to check the 2 next steps to see what it would give me: by checking the current between battery + and R/R output, I got 0,9V which is more than the 0,2V limit. and by checking between the battery - and the R/R negative output, I got 0,25V Which should mean that there are bad connections on the positive and negative leads of the R/R. I haven't investigate further so far, because it means going deeper in the electrical scheme. Is it correct for you ? What do you think ? If yes, as the R/R has already been changed to a Suzuki one (I don't know when), I suppect that maybe it has not been done very properly maybe and there is now a bad connection there. Quote
trmoyer Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 Mine will do it sporadically, it could be after a lunch stop during a day riding, it might do it first starting it up with it being on a Battery Tender, then it might not do it for weeks. Quote
Wilhermo Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Thank you again all, I think that I will check long terms if it happens again and how often. If it stays sporadic I guess it will stay that way. If not I will let the workshop check more precisely. 1 Quote
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