SnoPro753 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Well, my 03' VFR with 98k miles wouldn't start after class this week, weak battery. I pushed it down a small slope and dropped the clutch in 1st and rode it home. Tonight I pulled the fairing and this is what I found: I measured the resistance between all 3 wires in the stator and got the same measurement. It was replaced 20k miles ago. I looked for continuity between the green wire in the R/R plug and ground. Nothing. I think I need to replace the R/R and the stator side plug and connectors. Does the $10 R/R terminal repair kit from wiremybike.com include all the parts I need to replace the stator side of the plug? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signal Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 yes it includes all you need. It uses terminal post, not plugs. I have a 2003 and my connectors fried last week, and wiremybike sent me the kit. Its a weak spot on the bike. Good to know your RR/stator are good, just replace the connector with the kit and you should be trouble free for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoPro753 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Well I couldn't get any voltage out of the stator wires so I pulled the engine cover and this is what I found: I tried to follow Rick's Regulator/Recifier test and it failed. So now I think I need both a Stator and R/R. This is the third stator for this bike and the 2nd one only lasted 22,000 miles. Should I intstall a VFRness also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIFFR Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 That stator looks like mine did. It took out a new rr and a new battery. Lucky though it didn't burn any wiring. You're lucky it didn't ignite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer FJ12Ryder Posted August 31, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted August 31, 2014 Man, that just sucks. That wiring looks like it was about ready light up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoPro753 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 It does suck. I'm broke from paying tuition for the semester and now I'm staring $300 in parts in the face. Anyone want to buy an Elka rear shock? Pm me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted August 31, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted August 31, 2014 Add that to the burnt stator connector photo list...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted August 31, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted August 31, 2014 Brown color stator is oil related and not any indication of output... my stator is just as brown as yours but the out put is in accordance to the shop manual. Mr.RC45 quick disconnect was bad and about to turn mybike into a crispy critter...Apparently corrosion builds up between the quick disconnect pinsgenerating resistance enough to melt the plastic and insulation...Cleaning the pins with a wire brush and coating them in dielectricgrease can prevent this danger from becoming a problem...My quick disconnect was toast... I decided to cut and solder the wiresdirectly and seal with heat shrink tubing...Like you I've solder the wires directly to eliminate the possibility of fire... Pam Solloway of Coventry UK was on her way to Misano WSB when herRC45 caught fire while stopped at a light due to an over heated R/R...the flames were beat back by bottle water from a passing van... Shewere lucky the incident did not happen out in the middle of nowherefor it would have spread rapidly to the fuel lines and then thetank... nothing is worst as watching bike flam-beau... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoPro753 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 If I couldn't get any voltage between any of the phases during testing, would that indicate a burnt up stator? Wouldn't it put out a little voltage? (Maybe I was using the meter wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted August 31, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted August 31, 2014 If I couldn't get any voltage between any of the phases during testing, would that indicate a burnt up starter? Wouldn't it put out a little voltage? (Maybe I was using the meter wrong) All 3 phases failing at once is unheard of... Start with the battery for it's the weakest link in the whole system... To determine the condition of an Maintenance Free battery give it a refreshing charge... wait 30 minutes... measure terminal voltage... 12.8 or higher is a good battery... 12.0 to 12.8 is a insufficient charge... recharge... 12.0 or lower... battery unserviceable... If your battery has passed everything up to this point you want to determine with the engine running what is the voltage recharging the battery... start the bike in neutral and establish a steady idle... with a multi meter measure voltage at the + and - battery post. report the voltage back to VFRD... now increase the RPMs up to 5000... you should see steady volts or a slight increase... you should not see a drop in volts as RPMs increase... 12.8 or higher It should be at least a steady 13.8 Volts or higher... you want to determine with the engine running what is the voltage 13.8 Volts you have either cabling issues, or alternator issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signal Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If I couldn't get any voltage between any of the phases during testing, would that indicate a burnt up stator? Wouldn't it put out a little voltage? (Maybe I was using the meter wrong) doesn't make sense. Make sure your meter is in A/C mode not D/C when testing the output of the stator. Also check stator wires to ground (using ohm meter) to make sure there is no shorting to ground going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoPro753 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Signal. I measured resistance between phases and got 0.2 ohms on all three. There was also no continuity between each phase and ground. Last I started the bike and measured voltage between each two phases for all three combinations. I got no voltage at all. What could I have done wrong during this test? (Meter was on same voltage setting that showed 11.45 volts at battery. ) Ah crap. I bet I was on DC mode when I tested voltage output. Should've been AC. Maybe my stator isn't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Well I couldn't get any voltage out of the stator wires so I pulled the engine cover and this is what I found: I tried to follow Rick's Regulator/Recifier test and it failed. So now I think I need both a Stator and R/R. This is the third stator for this bike and the 2nd one only lasted 22,000 miles. Should I intstall a VFRness also? Like BLS said, they all pretty much look like that after some miles after so many had posted up on this site looking the same......Whether it's always a sign that it's burnt/shorted out, I'm starting to doubt it too...... Curious,... does it have a burnt smell to it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayStar2009 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Is this issue a result of excessive water as when washing the bike? Excessive heat? Combination of the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayStar2009 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Anyone having this problem (stator, r&r) on your '09??? If so, at what mileage was it showing?? Thanks, Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted September 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted September 6, 2014 I think if your do a search on stator or R/R you will find plenty posts. Best is to search using google "VFRDISCUSSION stator" etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted September 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted September 6, 2014 Does not matter if it's 09 or 03 they all have the same problem , 6th gen that is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misspent Youth Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Does not matter if it's 09 or 03 they all have the same problem , 6th gen that is . Not for you, but it does not matter if it's a Honda or Aprilia - all stator-r/r-based charging systems have the same problem. Stator is a sacrificial wear item made worse with shunt r/r (also a wear item due to heat). It's a cheap charging system made worse with small wiring and quick-connects that corrode. It has to be monitored (voltage meter) and maintained (connections and grounds routinely cleaned), including not pushing the battery beyond its service limit (not to failure, in other words). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted September 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted September 6, 2014 Does not matter if it's 09 or 03 they all have the same problem , 6th gen that is . Not for you, but it does not matter if it's a Honda or Aprilia - all stator-r/r-based charging systems have the same problem. Stator is a sacrificial wear item made worse with shunt r/r (also a wear item due to heat). It's a cheap charging system made worse with small wiring and quick-connects that corrode. It has to be monitored (voltage meter) and maintained (connections and grounds routinely cleaned), including not pushing the battery beyond its service limit (not to failure, in other words). That's way owner's that own a 03 -09 have modded it with better wiring,R\R and connectors . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Does the wiring recall make a difference in preventing this from happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted September 11, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted September 11, 2014 Mine was done it still fried the connector and the wiring but it could have already over heated before the recall. It had 1236 mile on it when the recall was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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