Loubloub Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Did my preride checkup last night and notices noticed excessive slack on my drive chain. I just changed it less than 1500 km on it. So I'm wondering if I did anything wrong? I can be a little aggressive with acceleration and downshifting but I am not a stunt rider by any means so no wheelies or anything risky. I followed the maintenance guide instructions, adjusted the chain to about an inch and a sixteenth play. I don't thing there is any adjustment for wheel alignment as it is a single arm suspension. So what have I overlooked? 2003 VFR800 and I ordered a low end chain (D.I.D530NZ) because the rivet tool was $300 with the extras. I was hoping to get at least a season out of it. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Do they not initially ‘stretch’ so a second adjustment after a couple of weeks / number of miles and then you should be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted November 7, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2020 Double check your swingarm pinch bolt. IIRC it should be 54 foot pounds. Did you change sprockets? Worn sprockets can cause rapid chain wear, though I've not heard of them roaching a chain in just 1500 km. Regardless, always best to change them when installing a new chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer ducnut Posted November 7, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 7, 2020 Yes. They will gain a little slack, during initial miles/KM’s, then, stabilize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer interceptor69 Posted November 8, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2020 You paid $300 for a rivet tool?Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Grum Posted November 8, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2020 You can buy yourself one of these for under $100us. Motion Pro 08-0470 chain riveting kit, does 520, 525 and 530 chains. Great bit of kit. Still use an angle grinder to remove the old chain, purely to grind off a rivet head then use this tool to press out the rivet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR78 Posted November 8, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2020 The DID 530NZ is a non O ring chain specified for vintage motor cycles with a “Chain Life Index” of around 10% of the DID ZVMX. I think you have put on the wrong chain and it may well be wearing prematurely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR78 Posted November 8, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 8, 2020 You need a VO at least or a VX3 if possible. I use a ZVM-X, which is a major overkill. VX3 for me next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelman Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 using a non-O-ring chain is a simple newbie mistake. i tried one once and soon decided never again. it's a pain to spend over $100-$140 for a chain or up to $225 for chain and sprockets, but motorcycling isn't usually cheap, and you'll be readjusting that crap chain frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loubloub Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/7/2020 at 12:33 PM, Cogswell said: Double check your swingarm pinch bolt. IIRC it should be 54 foot pounds. Did you change sprockets? Worn sprockets can cause rapid chain wear, though I've not heard of them roaching a chain in just 1500 km. Regardless, always best to change them when installing a new chain. Yes I use the maintenance guide religiously. I replaced everything, even the chain guide in front. It was worn too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loubloub Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 21 hours ago, interceptor69 said: You paid $300 for a rivet tool? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk I bought the big motion pro tool and the diamond shaped anvils were an extra $60. I may have been okay with the smaller version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loubloub Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, squirrelman said: using a non-O-ring chain is a simple newbie mistake. i tried one once and soon decided never again. it's a pain to spend over $100-$140 for a chain or up to $225 for chain and sprockets, but motorcycling isn't usually cheap, and you'll be readjusting that crap chain frequently. I went cheap on the chain to compensate for the expensive tool, but I thought it would last a few thousand kilometers. You're right about readjusting frequently, I just went for a 300km ride and it's loose again. Not as much as this morning mind you, but still. P.S. I am a newbie! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loubloub Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 16 hours ago, VFR78 said: You need a VO at least or a VX3 if possible. I use a ZVM-X, which is a major overkill. VX3 for me next time. I'll take note for next time. I know I was being cheap, but thought that the 530 could take a little abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loubloub Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Thanks for all your replies people. Lesson learned. I just crashed, so the chain is now the least of my worries. Hit a patch of sand on a corner, wasn't going fast, well too fast for the corner. I was wearing full gear, so no injuries, but the bike is pretty beat up. I felt a wobble on the way home, so I did more than scratch the fairings. I'm at a loss as to what to do. But obviously something is bent. Bummed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelman Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 ^^^ ooooops ! sorry about that.😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer DannoXYZ Posted November 9, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 9, 2020 ouch, sorry to hear about crash! Most likely nothing bent, just misaligned. Probably fork-blades are no longer parallel due to twisted triple-clamps from bar impact. Just lift/hang front-end loosen triple-clamps and steerer bolt to relax everything and re-align fork blades (plates of glass really helps). Then re-tighten everything back up. Wobble should be gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer interceptor69 Posted November 10, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted November 10, 2020 Oh no- sorry you crashed but glad you're ok. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loubloub Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 11/8/2020 at 11:59 PM, DannoXYZ said: ouch, sorry to hear about crash! Most likely nothing bent, just misaligned. Probably fork-blades are no longer parallel due to twisted triple-clamps from bar impact. Just lift/hang front-end loosen triple-clamps and steerer bolt to relax everything and re-align fork blades (plates of glass really helps). Then re-tighten everything back up. Wobble should be gone now. I did what you said and also loosened the steering bearing as I had over tightened when I installed it. It seems to be riding better now! All is well, with the exception of the paint! 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer DannoXYZ Posted March 27, 2021 Member Contributer Share Posted March 27, 2021 Glad this worked out for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Mohawk Posted March 28, 2021 Member Contributer Share Posted March 28, 2021 I get much less wear out of my 520 conversion than that 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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