nardenodo Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Ive tightend my chain a couple of times in the last two weeks. Everytime i do it i ride around for at least 40 miles and come back to the garage to see that my chain has gone limp again. There is at least an inch or two of travel and idk how it keeps getting loose after i tighten it. My guess is that the chain is shot but i thought i'd ask you all here to see if anyone has ever has similar issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted May 28, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted May 28, 2013 Are you torquing down the pinch bolt to spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted May 28, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted May 28, 2013 Are you torquing down the pinch bolt to spec? +1, BTW it's 54 ft. lbs. on 5th/6th Gens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmythecop Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Chain is shot. Just go to TMac, get drunk, look helpless and it will be fixed in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer dalesvfr Posted May 28, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted May 28, 2013 What is an 'inch or two' of travel? Is it an inch? Or two? Are you measuring? Shouldn't it be somewhere around an inch and a quarter or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nardenodo Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 ITs about two and a half inches of travel. I did the correct torque on the pinch bolt and also, What is Tmac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer 2thdr Posted May 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted May 29, 2013 Sounds like something besides a worn out chain and sprockets is going on since it seems to take no time at all to become loose. Are you checking on the centerstand? When correctly adjusted it should have about 1 1/4" of play at its tightest point, so you should rotate the wheel until all sections are checked (all while on the centerstand). If you have followed this procedure and have properly torqued the pinch bolt, then I would say there is a problem with the eccentric/pinch bolt not holding the adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer wagzhp Posted May 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted May 29, 2013 Sounds like the chain is shot. I ran into the same thing last year. Check this thread: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/72687-how-frequently-are-you-adjusting-your-chain/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NakedViffer Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Yeah, my beat to crap chain does the same thing. Its come to a point where I just let it stay loose because it only goes to a certain point and then seesm to stay there, but every time I have tightened it, it has gotten loose within a few miles, go buy yourself a nice DID or RK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 When a chain is completely worn out, it "stretches" (they don't actually "stretch" like a rubber-band) quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Definitely an end-of-life chain. Any red deposits on your rear wheel? That's the next level - rust from the chain pins, because the rubber seals are no longer doing their job and water is sitting inside the rollers and rusting them from the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nardenodo Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 I scrubbed the crap out of the chain and inspected both sprockets. They looked fine but there was some "kinking" in the chain, as referenced to in other topics. Its mostly gone away so i'll try and tighten her a couple more times and see if it keeps up. i've tightened it to spec twice now and to answer The phantoms question no, Just mostly clean metal i havn't seen any red. I'll take some pictures if things change and keep it posted! Thanks Guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4 Rosso Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You used the torque figure mentioned in the Honda service manual (55Nm / 40ft.lbs.) and not some other manual as those regularly have teh wrong torque specs. What you can also do is adjust teh chain and put a mark on the bearing holder and swingarm to be able to check if the bearing holder rotates in the swingarm. Debris that accumulates on the inside of the swingarm around the bearing holder can sometimes prevent it from being properly clamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mznyc Posted May 30, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted May 30, 2013 How many miles on the chain and sprockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 How do the sprocket teeth look? I'm guessing it's new chain and sprockets time in your near future. Crystal ball is cloudy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 This is not rocket science. How many miles on the chain and sprockets? 20,000 miles is about the life of chain/sprockets. Did you replace the sprockets the last time you replaced the chain? If you put a new chain on old sprockets expect less than 20,000 miles. What is the side-play on the chain, in inches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recalcitrance Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Just because a chain has no red/rust on it doesn't mean it's not old. It just sounds like you need a new chain. My chains last me about 20,000 or more and look like new when they begin to stretch out. Rust is not the only indicator. You can have rust on a new but neglected chain too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 If you have 20,000-plus miles on the drivetrain, it's time to change it. Go from there. I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nardenodo Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 Thanks for the tips guys, i will be buying a new chain as soon as i get the money! thanks again all of you rock mah socks off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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