Member Contributer HighSideNZ Posted December 7, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 7, 2015 As far as I know most after market mid pipes do not use the standard Honda cat to pipe gasket so the ID of the mid pipe, at the CAT/header end is 48.6/49.0mm somewhere in that range. What Mohawk outlined, getting an exhaust shop to expand the mid pipe is all that would be needed I think. When I made up my headers, I had the last section before the mid pipe joint reduced to suit my LeoVince's. This small reduction is not going to make any difference on a road bike to performance. The overall length of the tail pipe and cans will have a bigger influence on flow I'd expect. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyRedRC46 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 For what its worth, when I merged my 6th gen two brothers slip on to the mid pipe on the two brothers full system mid pipe, the diameters were identical. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeymick Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I would also like to purchase a set of the tyge headers for my 2K VFR 800!!! w00t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer badelman Posted December 8, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 8, 2015 This is awesome. Interested to hear when we can order asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewwazoo Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Sorry if this has been discussed, but in the original post, you say: Headers with this configuration will fit VFR800s from 1998 to the current model year Are you suuuure that's true? The 8th gen bikes have dual radiators (like the RC/NC bikes), and on the NC anyway the front headers hug the cylinders to make room for the lower rad+fan. I suspect 5th gen headers on an 8th gen would interfere with the radiator, and 8th gen headers on a stock 5th gen would interfere with the coolant cross hose. I'm going to need to make some measurements on my dual-sided swingarm project, but I suspect I'll be in for a set, provided they can be modified. If nobody's ever seen Tyga's exhaust stuff, btw, they're really nice. I've got a set on my NC and love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted December 24, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 24, 2015 Sorry if this has been discussed, but in the original post, you say: Headers with this configuration will fit VFR800s from 1998 to the current model year Are you suuuure that's true? The 8th gen bikes have dual radiators (like the RC/NC bikes), and on the NC anyway the front headers hug the cylinders to make room for the lower rad+fan. I suspect 5th gen headers on an 8th gen would interfere with the radiator, and 8th gen headers on a stock 5th gen would interfere with the coolant cross hose. I'm going to need to make some measurements on my dual-sided swingarm project, but I suspect I'll be in for a set, provided they can be modified. If nobody's ever seen Tyga's exhaust stuff, btw, they're really nice. I've got a set on my NC and love them. Peaking through the lower vent in the front lower fairing I guess it is possible that Honda trotted out a 15 year old main frame and engine design and then completely redesigned the exhaust to facilitate the more narrow profile of the side rads so we should measure to confirm. The exhaust is definitely revised as it has some new tubing visible in the area behind the right rear set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewwazoo Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Here's the Honda media shot. Check the bend in the primary - on the NC that same bend is to clear the radiator fan, which fits in the circular "hole" shaped by the exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted December 24, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 24, 2015 hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veefer800Canuck Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 My stock headers, which I had ceramic coated some years ago, are now looking like crap. I'll keep an eye out here for when the Tyga units are finally available and see what the landed pricing will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 24, 2015 Sorry if this has been discussed, but in the original post, you say: Headers with this configuration will fit VFR800s from 1998 to the current model year Are you suuuure that's true? The 8th gen bikes have dual radiators (like the RC/NC bikes), and on the NC anyway the front headers hug the cylinders to make room for the lower rad+fan. I suspect 5th gen headers on an 8th gen would interfere with the radiator, and 8th gen headers on a stock 5th gen would interfere with the coolant cross hose. I'm going to need to make some measurements on my dual-sided swingarm project, but I suspect I'll be in for a set, provided they can be modified. If nobody's ever seen Tyga's exhaust stuff, btw, they're really nice. I've got a set on my NC and love them. Peaking through the lower vent in the front lower fairing I guess it is possible that Honda trotted out a 15 year old main frame and engine design and then completely redesigned the exhaust to facilitate the more narrow profile of the side rads so we should measure to confirm. The exhaust is definitely revised as it has some new tubing visible in the area behind the right rear set. Good points... it will have to be investigated when Tyga is ready. I'm not sure how many 8th genners have signed on for the performance headers but we need to get the right info. The 8th gen headers are definitely a little different than the 6th gen in the back they merge before turning under the bike and the front appears to have the different bends you describe. Good catch, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Madsen Posted December 24, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 24, 2015 Any idea when they will produce? I ask becouse I will be in Thailand ontil the 12 of feburary, it could be nice to bring it back to Denmark my self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewwazoo Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 ...in the back they merge before turning under the bike and the front appears to have the different bends you describe. Good catch, thanks. Do you have any pictures of that rear merge? That's directly applicable to my own DSSA VFR project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted December 24, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 24, 2015 Sorry if this has been discussed, but in the original post, you say: Headers with this configuration will fit VFR800s from 1998 to the current model year Are you suuuure that's true? The 8th gen bikes have dual radiators (like the RC/NC bikes), and on the NC anyway the front headers hug the cylinders to make room for the lower rad+fan. I suspect 5th gen headers on an 8th gen would interfere with the radiator, and 8th gen headers on a stock 5th gen would interfere with the coolant cross hose. I'm going to need to make some measurements on my dual-sided swingarm project, but I suspect I'll be in for a set, provided they can be modified. If nobody's ever seen Tyga's exhaust stuff, btw, they're really nice. I've got a set on my NC and love them. Peaking through the lower vent in the front lower fairing I guess it is possible that Honda trotted out a 15 year old main frame and engine design and then completely redesigned the exhaust to facilitate the more narrow profile of the side rads so we should measure to confirm. The exhaust is definitely revised as it has some new tubing visible in the area behind the right rear set. Good points... it will have to be investigated when Tyga is ready. I'm not sure how many 8th genners have signed on for the performance headers but we need to get the right info. The 8th gen headers are definitely a little different than the 6th gen in the back they merge before turning under the bike and the front appears to have the different bends you describe. Good catch, thanks. Yeow - Tyga is a group of very talented artisan guys, but its almost looking like a CAD composite model would be very useful to come up with one design to fit all.. --- Or a 5th/6th bike and an 8th bike for test builds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 24, 2015 ...in the back they merge before turning under the bike and the front appears to have the different bends you describe. Good catch, thanks. Do you have any pictures of that rear merge? That's directly applicable to my own DSSA VFR project. Sorry if this has been discussed, but in the original post, you say: Headers with this configuration will fit VFR800s from 1998 to the current model year Are you suuuure that's true? The 8th gen bikes have dual radiators (like the RC/NC bikes), and on the NC anyway the front headers hug the cylinders to make room for the lower rad+fan. I suspect 5th gen headers on an 8th gen would interfere with the radiator, and 8th gen headers on a stock 5th gen would interfere with the coolant cross hose. I'm going to need to make some measurements on my dual-sided swingarm project, but I suspect I'll be in for a set, provided they can be modified. If nobody's ever seen Tyga's exhaust stuff, btw, they're really nice. I've got a set on my NC and love them. Peaking through the lower vent in the front lower fairing I guess it is possible that Honda trotted out a 15 year old main frame and engine design and then completely redesigned the exhaust to facilitate the more narrow profile of the side rads so we should measure to confirm. The exhaust is definitely revised as it has some new tubing visible in the area behind the right rear set. Good points... it will have to be investigated when Tyga is ready. I'm not sure how many 8th genners have signed on for the performance headers but we need to get the right info. The 8th gen headers are definitely a little different than the 6th gen in the back they merge before turning under the bike and the front appears to have the different bends you describe. Good catch, thanks. Yeow - Tyga is a group of very talented artisan guys, but its almost looking like a CAD composite model would be very useful to come up with one design to fit all.. --- Or a 5th/6th bike and an 8th bike for test builds.... The current mock-up bike that was available is a 6th gen so this would fit the side mount radiator VFR800s. The 8th gens may need a different set of front primaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewwazoo Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Wow, that 8th gen exhaust is intriguing. All prior generations merged each side of the engine (1+2, 3+4) in a 4-2-1 configuration. The new bike looks like it does (1+3, 2+4). It really does look to me like the 8th gen is going to need its own development cycle. Now if I could just convince my wife that my yellow bike has reached the end of its useful life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 24, 2015 Wow, that 8th gen exhaust is intriguing. All prior generations merged each side of the engine (1+2, 3+4) in a 4-2-1 configuration. The new bike looks like it does (1+3, 2+4). It really does look to me like the 8th gen is going to need its own development cycle. Now if I could just convince my wife that my yellow bike has reached the end of its useful life... It's a 6th gen engine, the shorter rear primaries in combination with the long(er) front primaries spreads the torque curve out flatter with less of steep decline after peak torque output; the trade off is a lower peak HP. This set-up is less complicated, easier and cheaper to manufacture. I'm pretty confident their isn't any new Honda voodoo in the 8th gen engine and the previous generations merge configuration will produce the highest performance which is the purpose of the Tyga project. The rear primaries of the previous gens should work and the front primaries would need a few different bends. Are any of the members who have confirmed to me their committed to buy purchasing them for an 8th gen? Please let me know. Thanks... Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer huntinggunns Posted December 25, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 25, 2015 Wow, that 8th gen exhaust is intriguing. All prior generations merged each side of the engine (1+2, 3+4) in a 4-2-1 configuration. The new bike looks like it does (1+3, 2+4). It really does look to me like the 8th gen is going to need its own development cycle. Now if I could just convince my wife that my yellow bike has reached the end of its useful life... It's a 6th gen engine, the shorter rear primaries in combination with the long(er) front primaries spreads the torque curve out flatter with less of steep decline after peak torque output; the trade off is a lower peak HP. This set-up is less complicated, easier and cheaper to manufacture. I'm pretty confident their isn't any new Honda voodoo in the 8th gen engine and the previous generations merge configuration will produce the highest performance which is the purpose of the Tyga project. The rear primaries of the previous gens should work and the front primaries would need a few different bends. Are any of the members who have confirmed to me their committed to buy purchasing them for an 8th gen? Please let me know. Thanks... Russ Good job Russ, finally going to see this come through. If they are sure that they will fit the 8th Gen I would be in for a set. Put me down on the list if that is the case. Hi Russ, Lisa and I are a couple of the members that are interested if they will fit an 8th Gen. Let us know what you figure out. Thanks, Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted December 25, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 25, 2015 ^ Completely agree. edit with Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdouble Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Yep, eigth gen on my side Wow, that 8th gen exhaust is intriguing. All prior generations merged each side of the engine (1+2, 3+4) in a 4-2-1 configuration. The new bike looks like it does (1+3, 2+4). It really does look to me like the 8th gen is going to need its own development cycle. Now if I could just convince my wife that my yellow bike has reached the end of its useful life... It's a 6th gen engine, the shorter rear primaries in combination with the long(er) front primaries spreads the torque curve out flatter with less of steep decline after peak torque output; the trade off is a lower peak HP. This set-up is less complicated, easier and cheaper to manufacture. I'm pretty confident their isn't any new Honda voodoo in the 8th gen engine and the previous generations merge configuration will produce the highest performance which is the purpose of the Tyga project. The rear primaries of the previous gens should work and the front primaries would need a few different bends. Are any of the members who have confirmed to me their committed to buy purchasing them for an 8th gen? Please let me know. Thanks... Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyRedRC46 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Look what popped up on the Facebook page this morning. Wowowweewow Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted December 27, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 27, 2015 Waaay da minute - Akrapovic full system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyRedRC46 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyRedRC46 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Haha, we wouldn't all be here if it was that easy, now would we ;) Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer HighSideNZ Posted December 28, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted December 28, 2015 With the Gen 8 exhaust and radiator situation, it is pretty much the same as what I've got with my modded RC45 exhaust system. See below: I am in the middle of using an lower NC30 radiator and fan assembly, modified to fit, as a third rad on my Gen 6. Bought a brand new all welded one off FleaBay for $100. I've had to remake the bottom hose and re-position the lower bends on the side radiators so as the bottom hose can run across the front of the headers, as can be seen from the photos. I'm looking at replacing the bottom hose with the new radiator. Photos to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted December 28, 2015 Author Member Contributer Share Posted December 28, 2015 With the Gen 8 exhaust and radiator situation, it is pretty much the same as what I've got with my modded RC45 exhaust system. See below: I am in the middle of using an lower NC30 radiator and fan assembly, modified to fit, as a third rad on my Gen 6. Bought a brand new all welded one off FleaBay for $100. I've had to remake the bottom hose and re-position the lower bends on the side radiators so as the bottom hose can run across the front of the headers, as can be seen from the photos. I'm looking at replacing the bottom hose with the new radiator. Photos to follow. Love your bike! Are you having any overheating issues that require the third rad? ... or is it more of a preventive measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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