Member Contributer Marsman99 Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 Was torquing my lugs bolts on the 1200 today with the bike on a rear stand and noticed the rear brake would not hold the wheel fixed no matter how hard I pushed. Had my son step on the brake and same result. I've never owned a linked, or combined brake system, but this seems odd. The brakes work fine on the road. Anybody else notice this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 I don't own a 7th gen, but on my 6th and 5th gens the rear brake on both holds the rear wheel still while I torque the bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'm in the same boat as Cogswell, don't own a 7 Gen but both my 5&6 Gen brakes hold the rear wheel enough to torque the bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weven Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 The rear brake is the one on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer hvfrdave Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 Your foot brake, should stop the rear wheel rotating when it is applied. You obviously have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weven Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 M99 mine does lock the rear wheel, you have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonRocket2 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 As already said it should hold it. Just as an aside, why not just leave it in first gear when torqueing so you don't have to hold the brake down? That's what I do. As another asides I assume "lug bolts" are what I know as wheel bolts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wera803 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I always torque mine on the side stand. The weight of the bike and friction of the tire to the cement helps hold it still. On the 5th gen, I can hold on to the rear passenger grab handles so it doesn't try to roll forward. I don't even apply the rear brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Marsman99 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 Well then, as I suspected, seems this is not a combined brake system "feature". Thanks for the confirmation(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfunkomatic Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 On the ground, put it into gear, have someone push the brake and there's no way that bugger is going to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer luvtoleanit Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 I always torque mine on the side stand. The weight of the bike and friction of the tire to the cement helps hold it still. On the 5th gen, I can hold on to the rear passenger grab handles so it doesn't try to roll forward. I don't even apply the rear brake. Same. Not much different than a car. Snug them up, drop it back down and torque while the rear wheel is on the ground. I don't even touch the brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianF Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'm changing my rear tire this week or next -- will check and see if mine does this. Seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer hvfrdave Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 I thought the question in the original post, was that his foot brake was not holding when applied, well it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wera803 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I thought the question in the original post, was that his foot brake was not holding when applied, well it should be.It's been so long since I've tried mine that way I just don't remember. Mine is also a 5th gen, not a 7th, but I don't think my rear brake pedal will stop the wheel from turning either. Brake pads normally work better when they have some heat in them. Cold ones in the garage just don't grip like warm ones while in motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 I would imagine glazed pads and/or rotors would prevent the brake from holding the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer wagzhp Posted May 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 13, 2015 I always torque mine on the side stand. The weight of the bike and friction of the tire to the cement helps hold it still. On the 5th gen, I can hold on to the rear passenger grab handles so it doesn't try to roll forward. I don't even apply the rear brake. Same. Not much different than a car. Snug them up, drop it back down and torque while the rear wheel is on the ground. I don't even touch the brake. I agree, and that's how I do it too. However, the rear brake should absolutely be able to keep the wheel from turning while tightening the lug nuts. Hot or cold. I can lock up my rear tire at any speed, in any gear, as long as I'm not holding the throttle wide open. Brakes should always be strong enough to stop a vehicle in motion, and that requires much more force than is required to torque the lug nuts. If you can't lock the rear tire by applying the brake, there is something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriverDave Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Like everyone else said, it shouldn't turn with the brake applied with moderate pressure. Also, since I didn't see anyone address the other part of your question, the combined brake system will make no difference on using the rear pedal to hold the rear wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lshark Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 ABS should be preventing wheel lock up at any speed above 5 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted May 14, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 14, 2015 ABS should be preventing wheel lock up at any speed above 5 mph ABS would also only work with the ignition turned on, at least that would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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