SEBSPEED Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Got a lead with Ben (Talldrinkofwater) here and he may have some good news soon, fingers crossed. Keith, you WERE planning to keep me in the loop on this, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted February 3, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 3, 2011 I've seen some sweet OZ wheels on RC51's! Those are a bit bright though... You have my number? Four oh four, three oh nine, twenty eighty-two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 3, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 3, 2011 Of course Seb! Ben's dad may be able to help out. He has been ill recently and hasn't had a chance to look over the drawings yet but with 102 days before I head to TxMac i am hoping for some good news from Ben soon. got it Kev...I will talk to you tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer JZH Posted February 3, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 3, 2011 Get Tony Foale's suspension analysis program (BLS has one...) and plug in your numbers, then. You will probably have to raise the rear ride height a bit to adjust for the increased trail. You will end up with slightly steeper rake than stock. There's actually quite a lot you can do with the demo version of the Tony Foale program (and the instructional videos that go with it)... www.tonyfoale.com/suskin/MotorcycleSetup.zip www.tonyfoale.com/tutorials/mc_setup/ Give them a whirl--and if you like what you see, order the registration key! Ciao, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 3, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 3, 2011 FedEx update...my forks just arrived at the processing center in Kennesaw, scheduled out for delivery tomorrow. :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 3, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 3, 2011 Get Tony Foale's suspension analysis program (BLS has one...) and plug in your numbers, then. You will probably have to raise the rear ride height a bit to adjust for the increased trail. You will end up with slightly steeper rake than stock. There's actually quite a lot you can do with the demo version of the Tony Foale program (and the instructional videos that go with it)... www.tonyfoale.com/suskin/MotorcycleSetup.zip www.tonyfoale.com/tutorials/mc_setup/ Give them a whirl--and if you like what you see, order the registration key! Ciao, Thanks for the additional info. I will goof around with the demo this weekend and let you know how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted February 7, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 7, 2011 Here's the Concours 14 controls. Not exactly what I was hoping to see. Might still fit your forks with the ZX lower, but not the direction you were thinking... 122_0711_34_z+kawasaki_concours_14+gauges.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 7, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks again for coming by and helping with the fit up. Your parts (and your help) were invaluable. :fing02: I wish I had thought to snap a few pics of the mock up with your triples and front wheel in place... :huh: Let me know when you get ready to bolt up and I will be available to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted February 9, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 9, 2011 Keith, it just hit me why you got your wheel out with the high mount muffler so easy compared to mine. Your shock is taller! D'oh! Need to shim mine now, anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 15, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yeah my rear is a little higher, I am back from the show in Orlando and looking to gather some parts....SP1 Lower and upper? What do you think after measuring it with me Kevin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted February 15, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2011 Got a lead with Ben (Talldrinkofwater) here and he may have some good news soon, fingers crossed. Keith, you WERE planning to keep me in the loop on this, right? My project $$ loop is drained but still I'd be interested in any custom triples to fit the RC forks. Currently running the SP1 triple and would like to go back to the original geometry with some custom parts if possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted February 15, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yeah my rear is a little higher, I am back from the show in Orlando and looking to gather some parts....SP1 Lower and upper? What do you think after measuring it with me Kevin? Seems like it will work. Also I was wrong about handlebar diameters. Of course they are the same L-R! I stuck some SP-1 stock bars on mine, but swapped L-R and flipped. controls.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 15, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2011 Investigating a set of these My link now...if the eccentric in the top and bottom can be "reversed to bring the front wheel back under the bike... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 15, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2011 My link Anyone over there who may help with any knowledge of the company? Any VFRD'ers with experience with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted February 15, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think it's possible you're making it more difficult than it needs to be. But then, what do I know? lol In any case, I'm expecting a pair of VFR 1200 clip ons to arrive this week. Let me know if you'd like to see how they fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 17, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 17, 2011 1200 clip ons, nice score Kevin...I am still trying to translate the french site... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Investigating a set of these My link now...if the eccentric in the top and bottom can be "reversed to bring the front wheel back under the bike... Last time I looked into those, they were over a grand. :comp13: I like the no-fastener clamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Vee-Ef-Ar Posted February 18, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 18, 2011 Good luck with this CC... The ZX14 kit looks sooo nice. I was never sure about fork measurements to go ahead with RC triples though. Be nice if they squeezed in. :lurk: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted February 18, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted February 18, 2011 They do fit! We used my set to see what would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4 Rosso Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 My link Anyone over there who may help with any knowledge of the company? Any VFRD'ers with experience with them? If you're asking if it is a reputable company, the answer is yes. I have no personal experience with them but a lot of the riders in the national competitions use their products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglasthecook Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 My link Anyone over there who may help with any knowledge of the company? Any VFRD'ers with experience with them? They are located a little more than an hour from where I lie, and they have pretty good customer service. I talked to one of the factory reps at the InterMot show n cologne this past November about getting a custom set of rear sets, and they said no poblem, just call for an appointment, and they'll see what they can do. They have pretty high quality stuff. As far as clip-ons are concerned, I got mine from www.oncycles.com. I think that they were made for a Hayabusa, but they fit really well. As far as the steering geometery goe, I have CBR 954 forks with the gull wing top triple clamp. Yes, the forks are shorter, and will quicken up the steering quite a bit. I hve had my VFR to 165 mph (indicated, not accurate) on the track, and did not have any high speed stability issues. The mod is definitely well worth it in my opinion. There are so many different ways to solve the few issues that come up, such as clip-ons, that you can almost do anything that your pocketbook will allow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnRC36 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Has anyone ever tried to use Ducati triples? At least 848/1098 models have an offset of 36 mm that would create a lot less trail compared to the 929/RC51 triples. Of course the fork tube diameter don't match being they're 53/53mm top/bottom for the base models and 53/56mm for 1098S/R models. The upper triple is even gullwing design. The steering stem would probably need to be changed but I guess they could be made to work. But they're readily available because it seems that a change to 27mm or 30mm offset triples seems to be the hot ticket for the Duc. So anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted February 21, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 21, 2011 If the Duc triples work with just a change of the steering stem, then I will squirt a few tears for you. I turned down an amazing buy on a set of Ohlins forks for a 1098 because the clamp diamters were so different that I didn't think I would be able to find proper triples, stems bearings etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnRC36 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) If the Duc triples work with just a change of the steering stem, then I will squirt a few tears for you. I turned down an amazing buy on a set of Ohlins forks for a 1098 because the clamp diamters were so different that I didn't think I would be able to find proper triples, stems bearings etc... I don't think I'll be trying this myself, at least in the near future since I'm running VTR forks with CBR919RR calipers and I'm very happy with them. Sure I would like USD forks but inspection laws here would make it hard to get the USD forks passed. Not impossible though but the donor bike must be heavier than the VFR. I just thought that the Duc triples (and forks) might be an option worth thinking about for someone making the conversion. I found another great option for triples that maintains the stock geometry for someone running RC51 forks or other long enough forks. The triples of a CB600F '05 onwards, offset is 40mm and tube diameters 50/54mm as they should be. The stock parts might be a little hard to come by but here you can buy complete triples with superbike bar mounts: http://www.imasrl.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=7〈=en It's the "TRIPLE CLAMPS MODEL 3" when you scroll down the page. You'd have the choice to run clipons by removing the bar mounts or use them with the bar bend of your choice. Considering this price does not seem too bad, don't know about shipping though. Atleast if you're considering making custom triples to maintain original VFR geometry. Edited February 22, 2011 by FinnRC36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I don't think I'll be trying this myself, at least in the near future since I'm running VTR forks with CBR919RR calipers and I'm very happy with them. Sure I would like USD forks but inspection laws here would make it hard to get the USD forks passed. Not impossible though but the donor bike must be heavier than the VFR. I just thought that the Duc triples (and forks) might be an option worth thinking about for someone making the conversion. I found another great option for triples that maintains the stock geometry for someone running RC51 forks or other long enough forks. The triples of a CB600F '05 onwards, offset is 40mm and tube diameters 50/54mm as they should be. The stock parts might be a little hard to come by but here you can buy complete triples with superbike bar mounts: http://www.imasrl.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=7〈=en It's the "TRIPLE CLAMPS MODEL 3" when you scroll down the page. You'd have the choice to run clipons by removing the bar mounts or use them with the bar bend of your choice. Considering this price does not seem too bad, don't know about shipping though. Atleast if you're considering making custom triples to maintain original VFR geometry. I thought the Hornet used the CBR600RR 48mm forks? Hmm. Off to google... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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