Member Contributer GatorGreg Posted March 11, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2018 #1 In a pinch, you can use the mirrors to securely hold the typical plastic grocery bag - see pics below I had slightly overestimated the capacity of the storage under my rear seat cowl this morning for a quick trip to the grocery store and had the need to carry one more bag. So I squeezed together the two mirrors, slipped a bag handle over each one, and then reexpanded the mirrors - it worked perfectly! Except for one thing - it completely blocked my view of the dash - LOL#2 So the second thing I learned is that I have grown overdependent on the gear indicator. I kept thinking, am I in 2nd gear or 3rd? 3rd or 4th? 4th or 5th? Am I really in neutral? I've gotten way too lazy to remember this shit! I don't know if I can ever go back to riding a bike without one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 hours ago, GatorGreg said: #1 In a pinch, you can use the mirrors to securely hold the typical plastic grocery bag - see pics below I had slightly overestimated the capacity of the storage under my rear seat cowl this morning for a quick trip to the grocery store and had the need to carry one more bag. So I squeezed together the two mirrors, slipped a bag handle over each one, and then reexpanded the mirrors - it worked perfectly! Except for one thing - it completely blocked my view of the dash - LOL#2 So the second thing I learned is that I have grown overdependent on the gear indicator. I kept thinking, am I in 2nd gear or 3rd? 3rd or 4th? 4th or 5th? Am I really in neutral? I've gotten way too lazy to remember this shit! I don't know if I can ever go back to riding a bike without one now. Totally with you on #2. Especially without a slipper clutch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted March 11, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thank you. I've been in similar situation (didnot have my bungie net). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaBrasi Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'm with ya on the gear indicator. I've got a Ducati Monster that has no gear indicator, I love the bike, but I often think "what the hell gear am I in?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer GatorGreg Posted March 12, 2018 Author Member Contributer Share Posted March 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, LucaBrasi said: I'm with ya on the gear indicator. I've got a Ducati Monster that has no gear indicator, I love the bike, but I often think "what the hell gear am I in?" The Monster has enough torque that it doesn't matter what gear you're in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyn Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I hate the dash on my 2014. Like the 1997 much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I agree with the gear indicator thread. I would be lost without it now. Why is it in normal life I can count to 6 without any issues but once I am on a bike no chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted March 12, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 12, 2018 I use the "seat of my pants" indicator for 35 years now..... On the RC51 you learn very quickly to "get the feeling"... No ABS, TCS .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I love ABS. Going from 70mph to 0 between two rows of cars on wet and gravelly lane markings has a way of raising appreciation of the technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted March 13, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 13, 2018 I have learned a few important speed/rpm indicators. On my fifth gen 60mph in top gear equals 4000 rmp, 65 = 4500, 70=5000. So at least I know when I'm in 6th. Others points may have become intuitive. After ~ 200,000 mi on fifth gens, somethings should sink in eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Bent Posted March 16, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 16, 2018 I almost never look at my gear indicator. Just more useless complication IMO. Used to not having one. I also very seldom forget to turn off turn signals. I'm usually awake when riding..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Philois1984 Posted March 16, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 16, 2018 After owning a gen 8 for 20 months I have finally gotten used to the self cancelling indicators, however just rented a 5th gen for 11 days in New Zealand and continually forgot to cancel them🤭 You can live without a gear indicator however they are great to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Philois1984 Posted March 16, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 16, 2018 Make that a sixth gen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted March 16, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Bent said: I almost never look at my gear indicator. Just more useless complication IMO. Used to not having one. I also very seldom forget to turn off turn signals. I'm usually awake when riding..... On my fifth gen I've had the turnsignals cancel themselves on rare occasions. So I talked to my servicer adviser and he said "Sort of." But they never cancel as fast as I want or as fast as they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer landlover Posted March 17, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Bent said: I almost never look at my gear indicator. Just more useless complication IMO. Used to not having one. I also very seldom forget to turn off turn signals. I'm usually awake when riding..... Wish I could say the same but am working on it. You should know what gear your in and get in the habit of always turning off turn signals or when the coast is clear make sure they turned off themselves. What are the negatives of a turn signal that turns off automatically after 10 seconds? 2¢ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted March 17, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, landlover said: Wish I could say the same but am working on it. You should know what gear your in and get in the habit of always turning off turn signals or when the coast is clear make sure they turned off themselves. What are the negatives of a turn signal that turns off automatically after 10 seconds? 2¢ If your turn signal is on for 10 sec. after a turn and there is another turn in that time, an approching vehicle could assume you are making that left turn and make his own left turn right into your path. I always try to cancel immediately. My machine is in for major maintenance and since my signal switch was not working intermitently I asked that it be replaced. At 56,006 mi. I think they are always important. Every little bit of precaution adds up over time. 200,000 plus and never hit a moving object (excepting for a couple of hooved forest rats of course.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Bent Posted March 17, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 17, 2018 I recently drove through Iowa (ugh) and on a long stretch of nearly vacant interstate, there was a run over deer about every 100 to 150 yards. I would hate to travel that road often or at night. If you don't turn off your turn signals with discipline, cars behind you will give your signaling no credibility and start assuming what you will or won't do. It's a good way to get hurt. Also, what MaxSwell said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fink Posted March 17, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 17, 2018 13 hours ago, landlover said: Wish I could say the same but am working on it. You should know what gear your in and get in the habit of always turning off turn signals or when the coast is clear make sure they turned off themselves. What are the negatives of a turn signal that turns off automatically after 10 seconds? 2¢ It’s not so bad in town when speeds are low, but at high speed you need more time. I’m forever having to put them back on. Usually reinforce with an arm signal if traffic behind. Nothing worse than sitting behind someone who forgets to turn signal off. It makes you wonder how much attention is being paid to driving/ riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer GatorGreg Posted March 17, 2018 Author Member Contributer Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 3/16/2018 at 10:12 AM, Philois1984 said: Make that a sixth gen!! Holy crap that looks like an awesome road trip!!! Did you do a thread on it? If so, please post a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer GatorGreg Posted March 17, 2018 Author Member Contributer Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 5:18 AM, Smiler said: I agree with the gear indicator thread. I would be lost without it now. Why is it in normal life I can count to 6 without any issues but once I am on a bike no chance? LOL - exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Philois1984 Posted March 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 1:18 AM, GatorGreg said: Holy crap that looks like an awesome road trip!!! Did you do a thread on it? If so, please post a link. Unfortunately I didn't do a thread for the trip, I did however take a lot of videos which I am in the middle of editing, will have to post some or put them on YouTube (don't hold your breath!!) If you ever get the chance to do a New Zealand road trip I highly recommend it, whoever designed these roads was definitely a motorcyclist!! And there is a world class motorcycle museum in Invercargill. Invercargill is also home to The Worlds Fastest Indian (of Burt Munroe fame) Renting the VFR was actually quite reasonable at NZ$112 a day, with unlimited kilometres. (2005 model with 80,000km on the clock) ran like a dream. I clocked up 4,300km in the 11 days I had it. Great roads, great wine and great food!! and the Kiwis are very friendly especially the biking fraternity. Attaching a couple more photos to wet your appetite. Both taken on the road to Milford Sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Thumbs Posted March 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 20, 2018 That's a good rate for the rental, what about insurance etc .... North island? When I rent in California it's about $120US per day plus $50 in insurance for a BMW GS 800, the only place with a VFR is in Sacramento which is not where I want to start/finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Philois1984 Posted March 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 20, 2018 It was the South Island, there was no insurance reduction option so the excess was $1500 if you had an accident, but you were covered for third party insurance (I suppose a 2005 model VFR is only worth $4000 to $5000) But it was an excellent rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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