Member Contributer Bent Posted January 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 20, 2018 Why not just ride the bike? If you like it, get it, if you don't like it, don't get it. So hard...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bent said: Why not just ride the bike? If you like it, get it, if you don't like it, don't get it. So hard...... Who are speaking to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Skids Posted January 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kwee69 said: Who are speaking to ? Kwee....can you change the colour of your font, it's almost impossible to read. Likewise with the quotes that come out in white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiutis Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Kwee69 said: Nope :/ Vfr 2014 Inlet Open 15 BTDC , Close 30 ABDC , Exhaust Open 35 BBDC, Close 10 ATDC . V fr 2005 Inlet Open 12 BTDC, Close 30 ABDC . Exhaust Open 35 BBDC, Close 10 ATDC. To increase overlap, you have to RETARD the EXHAUST, and/or ADVANCE the INTAKE.To reduce overlap, you have to ADVANCE the EXHAUST, and/or RETARD the INTAKE. Simple cam tuning rules for NATURALLY ASPIRATED engines:* Advancing both cams => more low-RPM power, less high-RPM power* Retarding both cams => more high-RPM power, less low-RPM power* Less overlap => more low-RPM power, less high-RPM power* More overlap => more high-RPM power, less low-RPM power" I'm yet to see stock 8 gen dynos with hp near high nineties. 6th gen has plenty of those dynos online. Also: from Cycle World: "The revised engine tuning has slightly softened output up near peak revs, though, causing the new Interceptor’s 138-mph top speed to be several clicks slower than its predecessor’s." https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/16/2014-honda-vfr800f-interceptor-sportbike-motorcycle-review-photos-specifications-performance-numbers#page-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted January 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 20, 2018 No shit Sherolock! My 1986 VF500F2 does 123MPH (on GPS)....... But, the 8th gen is classy looking bike.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiutis said: I'm yet to see stock 8 gen dynos with hp near high nineties. 6th gen has plenty of those dynos online. Also: from Cycle World: "The revised engine tuning has slightly softened output up near peak revs, though, causing the new Interceptor’s 138-mph top speed to be several clicks slower than its predecessor’s." https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/16/2014-honda-vfr800f-interceptor-sportbike-motorcycle-review-photos-specifications-performance-numbers#page-3 I see 141 mph GPS from a motorcycle magazine. Honda claims top speed is (150 mph)242 km/h for the 8 Gen. 138 mph = 222 km/h, 141 mph = 227 km/h. I push mine at 145 mph(gps) = 233 km/h. Not much difference here. The VFR 800 F they tested seems to be very conservative(93 hp) Höchstgeschwindigkeit = top speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiutis Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I wonder if anyone has compared the header design of the 8 gen vs 6 to look for any differences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 20/01/2018 at 9:00 PM, Tiutis said: I wonder if anyone has compared the header design of the 8 gen vs 6 to look for any differences? Exhaust system is slighly different same and have only one o2 sensor vs two for the VFR 800 VTEC. Water pump case is the same but the propeller have a different design.(i broke the water pump case and replace it with a VFR 800 Fi case because the part was not available until three months) Intake funnel have a different design Camshaft intake is different, Camshaft exhaust is the same. Cylinder head have a different design.(More static compression) Apparently the alternaltor and the RR have been changed. Don't know more. He is now on the front of the bike. You can saw it behind the headlight(not on the photo) The piston, liner have been changed. Most of the parts are plug and play with the VTEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fink Posted January 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiutis said: I wonder if anyone has compared the header design of the 8 gen vs 6 to look for any differences? Oh fuck don’t start that conversation again. Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiutis Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, fink said: Oh fuck don’t start that conversation again. Please Let's do it. It's not like you're busy riding your bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Bent Posted January 21, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Dutchy said: No shit Sherolock! My 1986 VF500F2 does 123MPH (on GPS)....... But, the 8th gen is classy looking bike.... LOL!!!!! Everybody knows the VFR is a drag racer......LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Grum Posted January 21, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Kwee69 said: Exhaust system is the same but only one o2 sensor vs two for the VFR 800 VTEC.(so basically you can swap it and plug a screw in the hole) Water pump case is the same but the propeller have a different design.(i broke the water pump case and replace it with a VFR 800 Fi case because the part was not available until three months) Intake funnel have a different design Camshaft intake is different, Camshaft exhaust is the same. Cylinder head have a different design.(More static compression) Apparently the alternaltor and the RR have been changed. Don't know more. He is now on the front of the bike. You can saw it behind the headlight(not on the photo) The piston, liner have been changed. Most of the parts are plug and play with the VTEC. Kwee69. Why on earth have you stripped your 2017 to such a degree???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Grum said: Kwee69. Why on earth have you stripped your 2017 to such a degree???????? I had a accident, not much damage but somes parts was not available. So i had time to repaint the fairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer GatorGreg Posted January 23, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 23, 2018 Sorry about your accident Kwee - hope you didn't get hurt. FWIW, according to zeroto60times.com the 8th gen is 4 tenths of a second quicker to 60 mph than the 6th gen, but it's a tenth slower to reach the quarter mile. This would tend to corroborate Honda's claim that they improved low end power. https://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=Honda+Interceptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, GatorGreg said: Sorry about your accident Kwee - hope you didn't get hurt. FWIW, according to zeroto60times.com the 8th gen is 4 tenths of a second quicker to 60 mph than the 6th gen, but it's a tenth slower to reach the quarter mile. This would tend to corroborate Honda's claim that they improved low end power. https://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=Honda+Interceptor Thanks i'm ok but my girl keep somes scares. Don't worry, she still like motorcycles and the VFR as well. Our knee was blocked under the motorcycle. That's why the VFR still look good, prevent more damage, i had kneepads but not her. I don't find any informations on quarter miles for the 8 Gen other than your website. I don't think it's from Honda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Bent Posted January 24, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 6:16 AM, GatorGreg said: Sorry about your accident Kwee - hope you didn't get hurt. FWIW, according to zeroto60times.com the 8th gen is 4 tenths of a second quicker to 60 mph than the 6th gen, but it's a tenth slower to reach the quarter mile. This would tend to corroborate Honda's claim that they improved low end power. https://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=Honda+Interceptor In what context does this really matter and the numbers come from some website? How about spending the same amount of time and energy improving rider capabilities? Then the times matter even less......just sayin'........ How many people go from zero to "fast", how often and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think that the times help show Hondas point with the 8th gen Interceptor.....it's got a little more bottom end grunt to lower the 0-60 times while giving up a small bit in the 1/4 mile. Besides I like to see the numbers just to verify my own seat of the pants impression on my new 2014 vs my previous 2006 model. When the bench racing starts its also good to have something to base you're claims on, as I do a lot more 0-60 speed runs than 1/4 mile here in crowded So Cal. The small changes help make the 8th gen Interceptor just a little more fun to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 On 18/01/2018 at 5:19 PM, fink said: Vfr 2014 Inlet Open 15 BTDC , Close 30 ABDC , Exhaust Open 35 BBDC, Close 10 ATDC . V fr 2005 Inlet Open 12 BTDC, Close 30 ABDC . Exhaust Open 35 BBDC, Close 10 ATDC. VFR 800 : 2014 - 2017 Inlet : Open 15 BTDC, Close 30 ABDC Exhaust : Open 35 BBDC, Close 10 ATDC VFR 800 VTEC(2002 - 2013) Inlet : Open 12 BTDC, Close 33 ABDC Exhaust : Open 35 BBDC, Close 10 ATDC Corrected. Same duration but more overlap on the 8 Gen. For comparison : VFR 800 FI(1998-2001) Inlet : Open 10 BTDC, Close 35 ABDC Exhaust : Open 35 BBDC, Close 10 ATDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fink Posted January 28, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 28, 2018 Come on then explain it in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Grum Posted January 29, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 29, 2018 9 hours ago, fink said: Come on then explain it in English. Agree. Bloody hell, and I got canned for just stating the 8gen Hi beam headlight relay wiring was wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspanglish Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Just ride it and post pictures of interesting scenery with the bike in the shot. Tell the story of the ride. A few ponies here and couple of Newton metres there, much of a muchness. The biggest improvements on the new gen would be front mounting radiator and no more Kentucky fried stators. I can ride your bike faster and I haven't even tested one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Auspanglish said: Just ride it and post pictures of interesting scenery with the bike in the shot. Tell the story of the ride. A few ponies here and couple of Newton metres there, much of a muchness. The biggest improvements on the new gen would be front mounting radiator and no more Kentucky fried stators. I can ride your bike faster and I haven't even tested one yet. Sure but this can be use for improve other VFR as well. For now, i'm looking for advance ignition map(i know where i can find them). The only thing i know is the VFR 800 VTEC and VFR 800 Fi have the same idle advance(which is 15°C before BTDC), on the VFR 800 F the advance at idle is 8,3°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Thumbs Posted January 29, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 29, 2018 Kwee you should look into Rapid Bike modules, I've got the Evo on mine and have left in the "self-learning mode", noticeable improvement in pick up and low down power The Race version allows you to alter the fuel and ignition maps plus various other things, autoblipper, raise rev limit, etc The units were in a group buy at VFRworld.com, Randy was the driving force behind it, unfortunately I missed it but got a good price on it from the UK importers The wiring harness that comes with it is the best aftermarket I've seen, all plugs labelled, highly recommended and of course you can just unplug it when you part with the bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee69 Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Thumbs said: Kwee you should look into Rapid Bike modules, I've got the Evo on mine and have left in the "self-learning mode", noticeable improvement in pick up and low down power The Race version allows you to alter the fuel and ignition maps plus various other things, autoblipper, raise rev limit, etc The units were in a group buy at VFRworld.com, Randy was the driving force behind it, unfortunately I missed it but got a good price on it from the UK importers The wiring harness that comes with it is the best aftermarket I've seen, all plugs labelled, highly recommended and of course you can just unplug it when you part with the bike Nice i will take a look ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Thumbs Posted January 30, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just had a look, seems the latest Evo unit has more features http://www.dimsport.it/en/rapidbike/evo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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