SEBSPEED Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I was cleaning up in my garage during a recent construction project, and found an oil pan that Veefermadness sent me a while ago. The oil drain had been stripped, and "repaired" by someone local to him. Unfortunately, the repair didn't go as planned. The pan was drilled and tapped for a larger bolt, but it was not done properly and the bolt seated at an angle to the pan, causing it to leak.So we have this as our starting point: From there, I drilled out the (already oversize) hole, and counterbored it. Then I turned up a plug on the lathe, which I drilled and tapped to fit a Fumoto F109 valve. Here are the 3 parts which will become my quick-drain oil pan assembly... Test fit shows a bit of porting will be needed: But first we have to weld the plug in, to seal it. I burned down the little flange next to the drain a bit, to allow the valve to clear it during installation. Then I milled it to create a nice flat area for the Fumoto valve to seal against: Now I can recreate the factory drain channel... And, done. Hope you find this entertaining. It's entertained me for about an hour and a half so far. Now I just have to find time to install it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veefer800Canuck Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Just put in a 1" NPT hex plug for lightning quick oilchanges! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Just put in a 1" NPT hex plug for lightning quick oilchanges! haha But now I can change my oil using just a 5mm Allen key and filter pliers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veefer800Canuck Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 You mean you're not supposed to use a 3/4" impact on the drain plug and a 36" pipe wrench on the filter? Dammit, I've been doin it wrong..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 You mean you're not supposed to use a 3/4" impact on the drain plug and a 36" pipe wrench on the filter? Dammit, I've been doin it wrong..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Marsman99 Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 Wouldn't have been nearly as fun, but maybe using a spherical washer would have been easier. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 Hell yeah . Wouldn't have been nearly as fun, but maybe using a spherical washer would have been easier. image.jpg And little Lock-Tite and Bam !! Great idea . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 The pan material would have been pretty thin after cutting the seat for one of those, not sure if there would have been enough left for threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 "Hope you find this entertaining. It's entertained me for about an hour and a half so far." I enjoyed it (maybe not for an hour and a half though). It's always interesting to see how people fabricate things. It would be great to have some machine tools to do this kind of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 Or and couple hours of labor . PAN, OIL 11210-MBG-010 $104.80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Let's see... free part or $100+... hmm... wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not all of us can TIG weld. Or are you offering free welding ? Oh yeah it's at least $50 here for a average TIG welder to do a small jobs. Don't ask how i know . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 Ah oh found it cheaper:PAN, OIL 11210-MBG-010 $89.83 It's a great idea Seb but we all can't weld . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspanglish Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Someone doesn't get the point!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee 2002 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I like the repair, it was done correctly and is as strong, if not stronger, than OEM. I'm interested in why you chose the Fumoto valve as opposed to a hex bolt? I don't like how low the valve hangs (I do realize the exhaust is lower), and I'm not sure about the lever actuation. I've never had one in my hand, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 I like the repair, it was done correctly and is as strong, if not stronger, than OEM. I'm interested in why you chose the Fumoto valve as opposed to a hex bolt? I don't like how low the valve hangs (I do realize the exhaust is lower), and I'm not sure about the lever actuation. I've never had one in my hand, though. I probably could have recessed the valve a bit more, since I was chopping and welding anyway. I didn't think of that at the time, I just kind of threw this together once I found the pan.I saw others here use the valve, and have heard how much some coworkers like using them on their cars. It made me want to try one. I like the idea that it might save me some time, and if you've ever dropped a drain bolt in your oil pan (my screen flipped over), you'll want to avoid having that happen again. The drain hole is now smaller though, so it may take longer to drain and not save any time at all... The valve is really pretty small, I can take some measurements if you like. Not all of us can TIG weld. Or are you offering free welding ? Oh yeah it's at least $50 here for a average TIG welder to do a small jobs. Don't ask how i know . Would you prefer that I not post this type of stuff?I'm not offering a service here, free or otherwise, I'm just sharing what I did with 1.5 hours of my Saturday afternoon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer zoomzoom Posted December 21, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted December 21, 2014 Hmmmm. So we have a Clutch Window mod perfected by Seb, now perhaps a quick drain drain oil pan mod................. Geez Seb, if you keep this up you may never need to look for work again, It just might show up at the door. LOL. I took a look at your webpage a few days ago, and wow, some pretty impressive looking work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Is there anything in Harbor Freight you don't have but still could use in your shop, Seb? You are the man with the good tolls, and know how to use them. It's not something I ever plan to do, but interesting to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wera803 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The drain hole is now smaller though, so it may take longer to drain and not save any time at all... I am one of the Fumoto users. I have them on my truck, GF's car, and both VFR's in the garage. While they may drain a little slower, I normally just make sure the bike is warm and open the valve into a drain pan, THEN pull the fairing, oil filter, etc. while it drains. By the time I am done, the oil is just about done too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hmmmm. So we have a Clutch Window mod perfected by Seb, now perhaps a quick drain drain oil pan mod................. Geez Seb, if you keep this up you may never need to look for work again, It just might show up at the door. LOL. I took a look at your webpage a few days ago, and wow, some pretty impressive looking work. Thank you, but you don't need me for the quick drain. You can just buy the valve and replace your drain plug. I went through the extra steps here because the threads had been messed up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Thank you, but you don't need me for the........ Not the salesman type, eh? Me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 In hindsight, I could have bought a bigger valve and fitted that one instead of the normal size one for normal drain speed. Oh well, maybe next time! Thank you, but you don't need me for the........Not the salesman type, eh? Me neither. Not for something simple like the drain... clutch covers though... I need to move some more of those! Your 'priller have a hydraulic clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Both Apes have hydraulic clutches. Have only had 1 time the clutch went soft on the older one. Time for bleeding. The rear brakes oto on the thing are notorious for going soft. Minimal stopping power when they work. Who needs rear brakes anyway? The fronts have never been a problem. They are great. It's that Italian character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Both Apes have hydraulic clutches. Have only had 1 time the clutch went soft on the older one. Time for bleeding. The rear brakes oto on the thing are notorious for going soft. Minimal stopping power when they work. Who needs rear brakes anyway? The fronts have never been a problem. They are great. It's that Italian character. Well, if you have a hydraulic clutch, I can probably fit a window to your clutch cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 OK, salesman gene kicking in maybe. I like the look of those. Don't want the expense or install job. I just wanna ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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