TNRabbit Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I just ordered a Shorai LFX18A1-BS12 battery for my 98 VFR 800. This is the extended rate (270 CCA/18A/hr) battery. Amazon has them for $95. I'll post a review to this thread once it's in the bike~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Are you sure you ordered the LFX18A1-BS12 and not a LFX18A1-BS06? I see the latter for $92, but not the 12V version. I've been watching prices on this for the last couple weeks, and I haven't seen the LFX18A1-BS12 anywhere near $95 from any reseller. Mind sharing the link you purchased from? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Crap. Just had this email conversation with THE OUTLET who sold me this battery via amazon.com:"Order ID 109-1426225-2991444:1 of Shorai Lithium Battery LFX18A2-BS06 Lightweight Powerful [ASIN: B007B6UNV2]------------- Begin message -------------Hello,The battery is the 6 volt version. Your order has already been processed, we are unable to make any changes to it. If you need to return item for a refund you can submit your return request via Amazon for authorization.Thank you,The Outlet--- Original message ---Order ID 109-1426225-2991444:1 of Shorai Lithium Battery LFX18A2-BS06 Lightweight Powerful [ASIN: B007B6UNV2]------------- Begin message -------------It came to my attention this may be the 6 volt version of the battery (BS06). The description clearly stated this was a 12 volt battery. In researching the model numbers, it appears the 12 volt is BS12 & the 6 volt is BS06. PLEASE VERYIFY before shipping to me! I require the 12 volt version.Thank you, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Oops, I thought that price was awfully low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MarkDetroit Posted May 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted May 6, 2014 It looks like the LFX18A1-BS12 is like $145... Still a good price IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 It looks like the LFX18A1-BS12 is like $145... Still a good price IMO. I checked the dimensions on this; it said it was 8" tall...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Biker Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 It's pretty small compared to the Lead Acid battery. It also weighs 2.2 lbs. I paid about $145 for mine plus shipping. The lead acid battery is $120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 my point being that the 8" would not fit in the bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted May 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted May 6, 2014 There's alot crap right now on the internet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted May 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted May 6, 2014 Crap. Just had this email conversation with THE OUTLET who sold me this battery via amazon.com: "Order ID 109-1426225-2991444: 1 of Shorai Lithium Battery LFX18A2-BS06 Lightweight Powerful [ASIN: B007B6UNV2] ------------- Begin message ------------- Hello, The battery is the 6 volt version. Your order has already been processed, we are unable to make any changes to it. If you need to return item for a refund you can submit your return request via Amazon for authorization. Thank you, The Outlet --- Original message --- Order ID 109-1426225-2991444: 1 of Shorai Lithium Battery LFX18A2-BS06 Lightweight Powerful [ASIN: B007B6UNV2] ------------- Begin message ------------- It came to my attention this may be the 6 volt version of the battery (BS06). The description clearly stated this was a 12 volt battery. In researching the model numbers, it appears the 12 volt is BS12 & the 6 volt is BS06. PLEASE VERYIFY before shipping to me! I require the 12 volt version. Thank you, Buy two of them and put them in series !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer bryan217 Posted May 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted May 6, 2014 I just picked up a LFX19A4-BS12 for my 6th gen a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't all that much smaller than the OEM, though it was definitely shorter. I needed a couple of the pads that came with it to fit properly. As for price, the best I found was Revzilla. http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shorai-lfx-lithium-battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Crap. Just had this email conversation with THE OUTLET who sold me this battery via amazon.com: "Order ID 109-1426225-2991444: 1 of Shorai Lithium Battery LFX18A2-BS06 Lightweight Powerful [ASIN: B007B6UNV2] Bummer. Sorry to see I was right. I was hoping you really had found a smokin deal on the 12V version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfunkomatic Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Yes, make sure it is the LFX19A4-BS12. The previous version was a lower amp hour battery and it wasn't enough for the VFR - mine packed it in. Shorai graciously replaced it free when it did die though - still pretty new technology. A few pieces of foam from their kit and it will fit like a glove and it is incredibly light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wera803 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Buy two of them and put them in series !!! That would work, but also make it a $190 battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I don't get it? I just put a Yuasa VFR battery in my Ducati 848. It was 60.00. Yes it is bigger than the OEM Ducati battery and it does have more CCA. Why go to the lithium battery? There are more complaints than good qualities of the battery. Cold weather starting is the complaint I hear most followed by the length the battery lasts. A riding buddy put one in his 1098s. It barely cranked the bike in the summer time, not at all during the winter months. Then it died last month and it isn't even a year old. I get easily five years plus out of Yuasa batteries. If it is weight savings which you are after, stop drinking Coke. You will loose ten pounds immediately. Besides, you are riding a VFR. Not ever going to be known as a lightweight bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Got a Yuasa Lithium Ion for $99. Returned the Shorai just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted May 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted May 6, 2014 ^^^ Yuasa Lithium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted May 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted May 6, 2014 GS Yuasa Lithium PowerGS Yuasa is one of the world’s leading battery manufacturers for automotive, telecom, and industrial applications and has produced commercial lead acid batteries for more than one hundred years. GS Yuasa manufactures a variety of specialty battery technologies including Lithium-ion, Nickel-Metal Hydride, Thermal batteries and Silver Zinc.GS Yuasa Lithium Power, Inc., a United States subsidiary of GS Yuasa, is focused on large format lithium ion battery system support and manufacturing for US customers. Primary products are lithium-ion battery systems for aerospace, defense, commercial, and industrial applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTBakay Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 GS Yuasa Lithium Power GS Yuasa is one of the world’s leading battery manufacturers for automotive, telecom, and industrial applications and has produced commercial lead acid batteries for more than one hundred years. GS Yuasa manufactures a variety of specialty battery technologies including Lithium-ion, Nickel-Metal Hydride, Thermal batteries and Silver Zinc. GS Yuasa Lithium Power, Inc., a United States subsidiary of GS Yuasa, is focused on large format lithium ion battery system support and manufacturing for US customers. Primary products are lithium-ion battery systems for aerospace, defense, commercial, and industrial applications. All three of the batteries pictured and the list are standard acid batteries my friend. I work for a dealership that sells the Shorai's. We have had lots of problems with them not being able to crank over bikes and fully depleting to the point they are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Biker Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 GS Yuasa makes Li-Io batteries for commercial and military aircraft including Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc. Also FYI, the "Lithium" batteries we are seeing for power sports machines including motorcycles, are Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePo) batteries, These are not the same as Lithium Ion batteries like those fitted to the common laptops and Iphones, the Chevy Volt and Tesla Model S. Li-FePo batteries have about 75% of the energy density of equivalent weight/size Li-Io batteries but they cost less AND they do not produce the kind of heat that Li-Io batteries do. Nevertheless, Li-FePo batteries are significantly lighter & smaller than AGM batteries. They also do not discharge as quickly as AGM batteries and will hold a charge much longer. The cold start issues occur when the Li-FePo batteries are subjected to very cold temps. Something like below 30 deg F. It needs to be warmed up. That includes turning your ignition to on for a minute. Keep in mind that even AGM batteries also degrade in very cold temps. Finaly, Li-FePo batteries also need to be trickle charged regularly when left unused and connected to your bike for long periods just like any other battery. My reason for going with the Li-FePo is that the price of the AGM battery was within $25 of the Li-FePo. So I figure why not get the benefit of a much lighter, 2.19 lbs. battery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted May 6, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted May 6, 2014 GS Yuasa Lithium Power GS Yuasa is one of the world’s leading battery manufacturers for automotive, telecom, and industrial applications and has produced commercial lead acid batteries for more than one hundred years. GS Yuasa manufactures a variety of specialty battery technologies including Lithium-ion, Nickel-Metal Hydride, Thermal batteries and Silver Zinc. GS Yuasa Lithium Power, Inc., a United States subsidiary of GS Yuasa, is focused on large format lithium ion battery system support and manufacturing for US customers. Primary products are lithium-ion battery systems for aerospace, defense, commercial, and industrial applications. Can't find lithium Oh yeah that's the battery Boeing had the fire on the 777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Biker Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 About them fires. Like the Tesla too. Li-Io, as you know from cradling your laptop and using your Iphone, they get hot. They NEED heat management that's for sure. The Chevy Volt and the Tesla actually use coolant I believe to keep those suckers cool. BTW, once the Lithium gets hot enough to melt they catch fire and when they catch fire they are very difficult to put out! They require a type of fire suppressant not normally available except to First Responders. Thankfully, we don't put those in our little motorcycle. Can you imagine? The engine already puts out a lot of heat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTBakay Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 We have had one Shorai fitted to a bike melt itself. Was replaced under warranty. Customer did not know what happened. He was cranking his bike (CRF450) and smelt burning plastic. No fire started, just a very warped battery. Oddly, the Shorai would not start the CRF in cool weather and each successive crank killed it more. An acid one started it right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DCXC9AQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1399421051&sr=8-1 ^^^ Yuasa Lithium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFR4Lee Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Good to see a big company like Yuasa join the fray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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