Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 Anyone have these? Am considering buying 4 (1 for the clutch as well). Do they really work as advertised? connect drain tube open 1/4 turn take lid of reservoir pour some new fluid pull lever, keeping an eye that the reservoir stays filled repeat until clear liquid comes out. close Goodridge sell regular (some $5) and stainless steel ones ($15); anyone regretting buying the regular ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I like them, I use them. Haven't used them long enough to know if regular will be an issue. The factory parts are not stainless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer V-FORE Posted October 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have them on mine, they do make bleeding easier! but not as easy as http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_bcbe.asp I picked up one of these after tearing my calipers apart (was taking forever to bleed them) and was very happy makes fluid changes a breeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer 2thdr Posted October 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 Do you have linked brakes on your 4th gen Dutchy? If you don't and your bleeding process is fairly straight forward, it may not be worth your while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer DucatiTerminator Posted October 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 They cost more, but I would also look into Stahlbus as a possible alternative. They are far superior in both use and construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 10, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 I want to use them to flush, on non linked nor abs. Stahlbus is sold in EU, at $25 equiv a piece. So could you elaborate on them being better? Does Dani use them on his Honda??? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer gll429 Posted October 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 are you teasing dutchy??? park your bike. turn the bars to the right. loosen the MC mount and level the MC...tighten. take a tube and fit it over the bleed nipple. clear tubing works best as you can see the color change.. tape to the inside of a throw away cup or bottle.. remove the MC top. loosen nipple. open a beer. turn on a game.. check the cup.. fluid in the cup? bet there is!! check the MC level.. going down? almost gone? add new fluid.... check the score.. is your team winning? check your beer.. almost gone? check the fluid in the tube / cup.. clear ? tighten bleeder. move tube to the other side.. repeat. watch the game.. finish beer! clear fluid in the cup? tighten bleeder. top off MC, add cap. squeeze lever.. WOW!! ITS FIRM!!! tighten cap. do the back brake... same method but try a different beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 10, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 Not teasing, but venturing into an area I have always paid to have the work done. and thus looking at the right tools for the job.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Park Tools sells a cheap one way bleeder valve with short lengnths of hoses attached to it that worked well for my 4th gen. One thing I heard about Speed Bleeders is, for some users, they sometime leak at the threads, and supposedly that made it so that some air might get into the system while bleeding. I heard of remedies like using plumbers teflon tape to seal the bleeder nipple threads better usually works(?).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer DucatiTerminator Posted October 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 I want to use them to flush, on non linked nor abs. Stahlbus is sold in EU, at $25 equiv a piece. So could you elaborate on them being better? Does Dani use them on his Honda??? :-) You get them across the pond a lot cheaper than we get them here. Speed Bleeders use a thread sealer to keep air from getting into the system when in the open position. This sealer does wear after repeated use and can and often does eventually introduce air into the system when open. The Stahlbus bleeder valve is essentially two parts: a semi-permanent seat that remains in the caliper (thus no thread wear of the caliper with constant opening and closing) and the valve which is opened and closed with respect to the seat. If you Google "speed bleeder leak," you will find more than a few cases of the aforementioned issue. I don't know if Speed Bleeder moved their manufacturing to China, but Stahlbus is designed and manufactured in Germany (and always will be) and TUV tested. I've used both Speed Bleeder and Stahlbus, and after trying Stahlbus, I've never looked back. Plus, they have cool aluminum dust cover caps to match your bike if you are into the bling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted October 10, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 10, 2013 I want to use them to flush, on non linked nor abs. Stahlbus is sold in EU, at $25 equiv a piece. So could you elaborate on them being better? Does Dani use them on his Honda??? :-) You get them across the pond a lot cheaper than we get them here. Speed Bleeders use a thread sealer to keep air from getting into the system when in the open position. This sealer does wear after repeated use and can and often does eventually introduce air into the system when open. The Stahlbus bleeder valve is essentially two parts: a semi-permanent seat that remains in the caliper (thus no thread wear of the caliper with constant opening and closing) and the valve which is opened and closed with respect to the seat. If you Google "speed bleeder leak," you will find more than a few cases of the aforementioned issue. I don't know if Speed Bleeder moved their manufacturing to China, but Stahlbus is designed and manufactured in Germany (and always will be) and TUV tested. I've used both Speed Bleeder and Stahlbus, and after trying Stahlbus, I've never looked back. Plus, they have cool aluminum dust cover caps to match your bike if you are into the bling. stahlbus.jpg.343715.jpg The last few speed bleeders I bought all had thread sealant already applied and they also sell the sealant, although you do have to "bake it" on. It looks like the Stahlbuss uses a rubber o-ring which could be replaced much easier and quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted October 11, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2013 I've used speed bleeders a long time on multiple bikes. It just makes bleeding brakes painless. On a dry system you do have to use a Mityvac to get things started. But once fluid is moving, its just like a normal bleed job. Never had an issue with any of the speedbleeders. That Stahibuss bleeder looks interesting, its probly "da bomb" for a clutch slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 11, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2013 Cheers guys! Speedbleeder's website does state that multiple use (ie after each race) will wear the sealant. I envisage using them every two years myself. The Stahlbus do look more bling, pity that the valve will be somewhat hidden from view on my 4th gen slave cilinder. final 2 questions: Did the regular speedbleeders rust on you? My front brakes were serviced recently, can I simply pull the old valve and screw on the bleeder? Or will the oil squirt out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted October 11, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2013 final 2 questions: Did the regular speedbleeders rust on you? My front brakes were serviced recently, can I simply pull the old valve and screw on the bleeder? Or will the oil squirt out? -- No rust, they have a chromate finish. - Pull out old, stick in new, give the mc some pumps to firm it up. ez peasy. (Of course, do the valve switch quickly, pull old, hold finger over hole, grab new and screw it in. ) Suggestion to consider is getting the SB8125L instead of the SB8125, the nipple is larger for the bleed hose to grab on to... --- On mine for the 5th gen, the SB8125's are a bit of a pain with the bleed hose. I use a small automotive spring hose clamp over the nipple so the fricken bleed hose stays put, instead of popping off. (LL is typically a slave cylinder part.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 11, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2013 Cheers Mello Speedbleeder's website state "proudly made in the USA" so I donot expect poor quality..... Checking with my mates if they too want some so we get 1 package shipped from the USA. I could possibly "cheat" by buying the Stahlbus pimping colored caps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Tightwad is a distributor for Speedbleeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 11, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2013 Exellent!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer AnikMankar Posted October 11, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2013 regular ones are cheap and eventually rust out. I have moved to SS one worth the spend. no regrets !! i had regular ones on my GSX750 and the VFR...but eventually moved the VFR to SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 14, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 14, 2013 Ordered! As always with Yoshua (wiremybike.com), great prices, great service! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 22, 2013 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 22, 2013 And the package made it across the pond! Great service from Joshua at wiremybike.com as usual. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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