V4 Rosso Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 If it hasn't come out of it's own it is still stuck. I have been too busy with other stuff an not been able to work on the bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer kaldek Posted April 27, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted April 27, 2011 It's times like this I get angry with mechanical things. And it's times like this I look at the thing as my enemy, smiling and laughing at me. This is when I'd put the axle in a big hydraulic press and enjoy the sound it makes as it pops out. Like tying my enemy up and shooting him in the kneecaps. After all, it's become personal. P.S Please keep posting on this problem - I'm really super keen to find out what the problem was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglasthecook Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Sorry for the late entry into tonights show, but I have was delayed by our sponsors...Anyway, just as the previous posters have suggested, apply some penetrating oil, let it sit for a little while, try to rotate the axle from the right side, as you whack it from the left. I used a 4 x 4 piece of wood placed against the axle, and gave it a good whack or three, and she popped out. Is there any side-to-side movement at all when the c-clip is removed, or is it really bound up? Installing the nut prior to using the wood is also good, as it give a bigger surface area for whacking...My bike is still waiting for the forks to be finished, the dang ducati Shop at the Nurburgring is taking their time, time I'm not happy giving!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4 Rosso Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 It's out! After all, it's become personal. Exactly With some bits and pieces I had laying around I modified the puller. While holding the axle nut with a spanner I spun the axle using a steel bar wedged between the wheel studs (with the wheel nuts installed not to damage the thread) and with a lttle effort the axle slid out of the bearing holder. After the axle had moved 1/2" it gave up most of it's resitance and I cold spin the axle by hand. DIY axle puller As I expected it was old gummed up grease that prevented the axle from sliding out of the bearings. This would have never come out whacking it with a hammer. Old grease sticks like glue The bearing holder came out fine. The bearings are still in great shape, no play in them whatsoever. They'll get some fresh grease and new dust seals will be installed. Thanks everyone for your mental support and ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Congrats! That's not just grease, there's rust in there too. Clean it with solvent and then wire wheel the rust off. Get it nice and shiny clean again, then add your new grease(and maybe some anit-seize!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 3, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted May 3, 2011 Thanks for confirming the bearings are still in great shape, it means I will leave mine well alone.... Zo, nu eerst een Bavaria.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted May 3, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted May 3, 2011 Success!!!... I like your pusher... lets see a pic of the axle bearing surface... I offer my method to clean both the axle and bearing... Once you have the bearing removed you employ a two jewelers screw drivers and carefully lift each roller from the cage... Give the rollers and cage a bath in gasoline... you be surprised at all the dirty deposits hidden in the old grease and every nook and cranny... you're looking at the deposits after only 10K miles of normal operation... Once the bearing are really clean lay them out and inspect each roller for scoring... Dirt mixed with the old grease will leave a trail of deposits on the axle at point B... Spun in a Lathe... it's easy to remove the deposits employing a gray micro fine 3M pad... it's soft enough that it does *not* remove any precious metal... What you'll end up with is an axle with the deposits remove plus giving the metal a nice luster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4 Rosso Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Spun in a Lathe... it's easy to remove the deposits employing a gray micro fine 3M pad... it's soft enough that it does *not* remove any precious metal... I wish I had the tools in my shed to clean the axle your way Larry. I did however once clean the caliper pistons using a small woodworking lathe I had to resort to using a nylon brush and some solvent. Still, it cleaned up nice: That's not just grease, there's rust in there too. Clean it with solvent and then wire wheel the rust off. Get it nice and shiny clean again, then add your new grease(and maybe some anit-seize!). Fortunately I didn't need to use a wire wheel/brush. The clay like substance came off fairly easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 sweet! let's schedule a ride. saturday's weather looks perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4 Rosso Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 sweet! let's schedule a ride. saturday's weather looks perfect. I allready have plans for saturday, sunday maybe ? Zo, nu eerst een Bavaria.......... Er gaat (bijna) niets boven een lentebock na het gedane werk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 echt ware, hoor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer kaldek Posted May 4, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2011 Man this is great news mate. I love a little backyard engineering!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglasthecook Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Glad to hear that you got your problem sorted! I'm still waiting to get my VFR back. Hopefully this week, but I'm not gonna hold my breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 4, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2011 I allready have plans for saturday, sunday maybe ? With Sunday being Mothersday.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I allready have plans for saturday, sunday maybe ? With Sunday being Mothersday.................... that doesn't concern me... but there is a forecast for some rain on sunday. maybe that'll change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted June 11, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted June 11, 2012 Well....looks like I'm going to need that bearing puller from work tonight.. The other one came apart easy. Must be something with these 4th gen rear axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veefer800Canuck Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 It's out! With some bits and pieces I had laying around I modified the puller. While holding the axle nut with a spanner I spun the axle using a steel bar wedged between the wheel studs (with the wheel nuts installed not to damage the thread) and with a lttle effort the axle slid out of the bearing holder. After the axle had moved 1/2" it gave up most of it's resitance and I cold spin the axle by hand. DIY axle puller Good grief that is the most Rube Goldberg contraption I think I have ever seen! I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted June 12, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted June 12, 2012 and that is why I'm leaving my rear axle WELL alone........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veefer800Canuck Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I take it apart and grease it every two years, regardless of mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted June 13, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted June 13, 2012 Just crushed in some thick aluminum tubing trying to pull the spocket carrier off. Liquid wrench not penetrating. Torching not helping. Going to take it to work and use the press to try and get it off that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted June 14, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted June 14, 2012 Today I learned success sometimes takes 22 tons of pressure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted June 14, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted June 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted June 14, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted June 14, 2012 C'mon. Why don't we just take it on faith? I'm a trustworthy guy, right? Nice and rusty. Oddly enough the spindle nearly fell out when I loosened the pinch bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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