Member Contributer Hingley Posted July 8, 2023 Author Member Contributer Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just thought I would finish off the thread with a picture of how the old girl turned out after 8 months of updates and rebuilding the front end Learned a lot and I would have been lost if not for your guys feed back and knowledge. Now to get some insurance and drive the piss out of it, the install of the Corbin Beetle bags will have to wait for any other day 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MBrane Posted July 9, 2023 Member Contributer Share Posted July 9, 2023 She looks good! If you have any questions about installing the Beetle Bags let me know. The mounts are kinda cheesy. I've had to repair 3 of mine, but then I like bumpy goat trails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Hingley Posted July 9, 2023 Author Member Contributer Share Posted July 9, 2023 Great to know there is a member with Corbin mounting knowledge I will ask if you can give me a little guidance before I dive into getting the bags mounted correctly Attached is a picture when I first saw the bike, as you can see the left bag is not mounted right due to a tip over by the looks of it I found that the left passenger heel protector was broke on one side and looks like the front mounting bolt caused the break during the tip over I broke the other side trying the dumb ass move of seeing if it would bend back some I have a new left passenger foot peg on order but I was wondering if you think that based on the pitch of the bag that the other mount might have a bend as well Have you found these tube/bracket bag mounts are at 90 degrees from the plate to the bolt tube? Any thoughts will be a great help, any tricks you know of ? You by chance would not have a good clear set of instructions for mounting the bags ? I have a PDF set but the image quality is poor and hard to see the components and where spacer washers go etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MBrane Posted July 10, 2023 Member Contributer Share Posted July 10, 2023 Never seen those heel protectors before. Spacing the stock passenger peg mounts out with washers or shims is the way, but they can still rub on the rear bodywork. They wiggle quite a bit on bumpy roads. If you try to make them too rigid you will start breaking subframe mounts. Lining them up with the bodywork is a never ending quest. Best to leave all the mounts slightly loose when mounting then tweak, and tighten. Granted I've loaded them pretty heavy, and ridden hard on less than smooth roads. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted February 5 Member Contributer Share Posted February 5 On 6/21/2023 at 1:32 PM, vfrcapn said: This here. I put a new Honda '03+ stator and used eBay flywheel in my '99 a few months ago. Works great, flywheels are $30-$50. How has this been working out long term? Is there any update on clearance issues that might have arisen? I'm a bit nervous about trying it - the 5th gen cover is on the left, 6th gen on the right. I thought the covers would swap, but they don't. They're sufficiently different that I'm not sure I can sufficiently measure to be sure the flywheel won't rub on the inner cover where it tapers to the outside. Thanks for any updates! Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted February 5 Member Contributer Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Cogswell said: How has this been working out long term? Is there any update on clearance issues that might have arisen? I'm a bit nervous about trying it - the 5th gen cover is on the left, 6th gen on the right. I thought the covers would swap, but they don't. They're sufficiently different that I'm not sure I can sufficiently measure to be sure the flywheel won't rub on the inner cover where it tapers to the outside. Thanks for any updates! Cheers No issues, I’ve only done a few hundred miles but seems to be just fine using the 5g cover and 6g components. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer bmart Posted February 5 Member Contributer Share Posted February 5 Is the 6G more reliable than the 5G in general? Are the yellow wires a thicker gauge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted February 7 Member Contributer Share Posted February 7 On 2/5/2024 at 8:33 AM, bmart said: Is the 6G more reliable than the 5G in general? Are the yellow wires a thicker gauge? I'm not sure about reliability - my 6th gen seems to eat stators like potato chips at a Super Bowl party. The 6th gen's is larger diameter, 4.52" vs 4.26" on the 5th gen, about 6.1% larger. IDK how much more power that translates in to. The yellow output wires for both measure 2.2mm outer diameter around the yellow insulation, so the same. Custom Rewind, below, put 2.9mm OD wire on my 6th gens, so a big improvement. If anyone is wondering, Custom Rewind is still in business. I talked to them about a week ago. They did my 6th gen's 1st rewind and it was great. Cost now is $135 shipped back to you. Phone is 205-798-7282. 2014 Pratt Hwy, Birmingham, AL. 35214 If you leave a message they will eventually call you back. They will give you a custom length wire and whatever connector you specify. Probably should call them 1st before asking for the latter. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer raYzerman Posted February 7 Member Contributer Share Posted February 7 If you're eating stators, then first question is what R/R are you using and are you still connected via the OEM harness...... if so, you need to upgrade and bypass directly to the battery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted February 8 Member Contributer Share Posted February 8 On 2/6/2024 at 11:28 PM, Cogswell said: If anyone is wondering, Custom Rewind is still in business. I talked to them about a week ago. They did my 6th gen's 1st rewind and it was great. Cost now is $135 shipped back to you. Phone is 205-798-7282. 2014 Pratt Hwy, Birmingham, AL. 35214 If you leave a message they will eventually call you back. They will give you a custom length wire and whatever connector you specify. Probably should call them 1st before asking for the latter. Hey Cogs - How's going? Thanks for the heads up on Custom Rewind. Great news! I did a 5th gen a couple years back with extended leads and its working great. I am running the Furukawa connnectors direct on the extended leads so there is no intermediate connection..... Also I have another on the bench to do. Gonna get that one done too to have on hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted February 21 Member Contributer Share Posted February 21 On 2/8/2024 at 1:55 PM, mello dude said: Hey Cogs - How's going? Thanks for the heads up on Custom Rewind. Great news! I did a 5th gen a couple years back with extended leads and its working great. I am running the Furukawa connnectors direct on the extended leads so there is no intermediate connection..... Also I have another on the bench to do. Gonna get that one done too to have on hand. Thanks bro! Hangin' in there. So another question related to this. Before I got ahead of myself and removed the stator from the 5th gen cover, I thought better to check to see if the gasket is available - it's stuck to the cover and I'll probaby ruin it to remove the stator. The gasket is NLA from Honda. So . . . there are aftermarket options on ebay. Does anyone have any experience with one or the other (or from a non-ebay source) that might be a good pick for a replacement? Thanks to all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Hingley Posted February 21 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 21 The gasket is NLA from Honda. So . . . there are aftermarket options on ebay Interesting that you mentioned the stator gasket is NLA in the U.S. , I was into my 5th gen stator last winter and was able to get a new gasket from Honda here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfrgiving Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Cogswell said: Thanks bro! Hangin' in there. So another question related to this. Before I got ahead of myself and removed the stator from the 5th gen cover, I thought better to check to see if the gasket is available - it's stuck to the cover and I'll probaby ruin it to remove the stator. The gasket is NLA from Honda. So . . . there are aftermarket options on ebay. Does anyone have any experience with one or the other (or from a non-ebay source) that might be a good pick for a replacement? Thanks to all! Ricks's has stator cover gaskets. They're $13. I'm running one on my '98 with a Rick's stator. https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/Honda-Stator-Cover-Gasket-25_109 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted February 22 Member Contributer Share Posted February 22 I bought from this place: https://www.ebay.com/itm/201413374648 Seems to work fine, lots of options on eBay too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted February 22 Member Contributer Share Posted February 22 16 hours ago, vfrcapn said: I bought from this place: https://www.ebay.com/itm/201413374648 Seems to work fine, lots of options on eBay too. This is great - made in USA! I hadn't seen this one. I'm leery about offshore ones made from who knows what. Many thanks for the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted March 2 Member Contributer Share Posted March 2 My 5G gasket(s) finally came in, which gave me the confidence to remove the 5G stator from its cover. I got to measuring the differences between the 5th and 6th gen versions, and it would seem that about the only similarity between them is that the inner mounting diameters and bolt patterns are the same. That's where it ends. I'll lay out the measurements I took below, using a digital slide caliper. Some of the measurements could be made accurately and repeatably, but others were somewhat guesses where the wire wrapped around each of the poles. It probably requires an electrical engineer with familiarity of these types of alternators to definitively say whether this makes a difference to power potential at various RPM's of each - definitely beyond my ability. I measured in inches - apologies to metric folks, but you get the idea. 5G 6G Inner mounting circumference 1.65 1.65 Outer circumference 4.23 4.54 Core thickness 1.05 .89 Height of pole(s) above core .84 .90 Width of each pole 1.40 1.30 Depth of pole .54 .59 The last 3 measurements took some estimating. The wiring obscures the true measurement, so I did my best to keep it consistent. The last item is interesting. The core appears to be a stack of plates vs a solid block of machined or cast metal. The 5th gen clearly has thicker ones. I used a fine dental pick to drag over each , counting each click as it slid across. The 5G core had a count of 22, and the 6G a count of 46. I could be off by a few - regardless it's quite noticeable just looking at it. But does that make any difference to the power potential of the stator? My intuition says no, but if not then why would Honda make such a significant change? Lastly, the 4 mounting bolts are significantly different length. I put the 6G core in the 5G cover and ran the bolts down by hand. Something seemed odd as I encountered resistance from the bolts but the core had play in it relative to the cover. Be careful if doing this swap and using the 5G bolts - with the 6G thinner core, shorter bolts will be required or the result could be stripped threads in the cover. In summary, the 6th gen stator is larger diameter, thinner, with poles (both have 18) that are taller but narrower. Possibly this allows for more wraps of wire which might be helpful - not sure. At any rate, it's not clear to me what this swap might accomplish. My real interest is in improving output at idle, as voltage going down the road is a steady 14.5v. It's mostly at stops particularly when the fan is running that things go south and I see low 12's for voltage. I am running an 847 R/R, so it's not OEM. If there's anyone that definitively knows if the differences in two stators would produce different results, it would be great to hear. Cheers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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