timmythecop Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 As I was closing my right Givi E-28 saddlebag, I heard a tink-a-dink-a-diddle on the ground and saw the top half of the key. The bottom is still in the lock. Any idea how to get it out without destroying the lock (I have a second key) Please help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer gll429 Posted October 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 29, 2013 tweezers from a swiss army knife. they are flat and very thin. if you have JUST enough room at the top of the broken blade. a drop of crazy glue on the broke part in your hand.. press in place.. and hold it.. and carefully pull out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Gerrys02800 Posted October 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 29, 2013 When my key broke I removed the case off the bike, flipped it over, and shooked the hell out of it, banged it on the floor ( not to hard ). I had my son hold it upside down and used the smallest, thinnest needle nose pliers I had and wiggled it to the point where I could pull it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer ron_al Posted October 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 29, 2013 Are you able to turn the broken-half-of-the-key to unlock the bag? If you can remove the bag from the frame, then perhaps you can use a circlip plier to remove the lock from the saddlebag. Once you have the lock off of the bag, then perhaps it would be easier to extract the key - or to take it to a locksmith who could do so. Just a guess. Good luck! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer zoomzoom Posted October 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 29, 2013 If you check to see if the part of the key you still have is ferrous (a magnet will stick to it) then you could try sticking a magnet to the top of the key hole and see if the key comes out just enough to grab it with a pair of needle nose pliers. I have a mechanics telescopic magnetic pick up tool that a neodinium magnet in the end and I used it to pull the broken half of the key out of my garage door lock once. Key wouldn't come out all the way but it did come out just enough to grab the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suitcase Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Well if all the above good ideas dont work...you could try a dental pick...the tiniest partly hooked kind...they are stainless steel and can fit into tight spaces.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFRMike Posted October 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 29, 2013 This happened to me just over the summer with the E21 bag. I removed the locking mechanism from the hard bag and found it much easier to pry it out with a needle. If you turn it upside down it will just fall out as you poke at it from the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspanglish Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Pity keys don't tend to have iron... as a strong magnet might have done it. Pry it out with a jeweler's or watchmaker's tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 If you end up going neanderthal on it, I will send you a replacement lock set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmythecop Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 Thanks for the ideas. What made it worse was it was open until I used the top half to see if it would turn. It did. Now it is locked and won't turn. ........and attached to bike ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted October 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 29, 2013 Strong magnet and some flat black ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmythecop Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 On a lighter note...I finally found my heat controller for my electric vest............seconds AFTER I re-wired it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspanglish Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Keys don't tend to have iron.. Nowadays.. = Not attracted by magnets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspanglish Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 On a lighter note...I finally found my heat controller for my electric vest............seconds AFTER I re-wired it. Timmy, these things tend to happen in threes you know... Be prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfr Posted October 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 29, 2013 As I was closing my right Givi E-28 saddlebag, I heard a tink-a-dink-a-diddle on the ground and saw the top half of the key. The bottom is still in the lock. Any idea how to get it out without destroying the lock (I have a second key) Please help me. Timmy--Consider yourself lucky it was tink-a-dink-a-diddle and NOT the dreaded tink-a-dink-a-diddle-a-dunk because you would really be screwed then. The latter would indicate that not enough key metal remained within the lock cylinder to grab hold of with the other useful suggestions offered. Whew. I'm relieved. Well...enough help for you then. Back to my beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer dr.toto Posted October 30, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 30, 2013 Tim, is there enough of the key in the lock that you can use a screwdriver to turn the lock set and remove or open the bag? Once the lid is open, it won't be difficult to remove the lock set or use a finepoint scribe and remove the rest of the key from the tumbler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmythecop Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 I am going to try again tomorrow. I got close to brute force and ignorance, so I stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted October 30, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 30, 2013 Keys don't tend to have iron.. Nowadays.. = Not attracted by magnets Um OK ..... I tried it own mine and no workie ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suitcase Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Locked and attached to the bike...Well VFR's do look pretty fine when outfited with hard bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmythecop Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 ......................rainsuit inside. Wet commute..............joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer panamawing Posted October 30, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 30, 2013 this happened to me on the 6th gen. after much struggling and frustration , i called a locksmith and he had the key out in a few minutes with his special lock picking tools. triple a covered the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer 00Yeller Posted October 30, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 30, 2013 You could always resort to this method: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e05ayLVTOoM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted October 30, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted October 30, 2013 ......................rainsuit inside. Wet commute..............joy. No Glocks 40's ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pttrtrry Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 If you end up going neanderthal on it, I will send you a replacement lock set. I saw your reply to broken key, not my problem. I am trying to find replacement OEM bag left side , blue for 2007 VFR. Found 2 used , one with lock, one without. Can I buy one lock and rekey to existing? Should I buy bag w/lock and rekey tumblers to existing bag, or just buy lock set and replace both sets? Which of 3 options least expensive. TERRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer rdguy Posted November 5, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 5, 2013 As I was closing my right Givi E-28 saddlebag, I heard a tink-a-dink-a-diddle on the ground and saw the top half of the key. The bottom is still in the lock. Any idea how to get it out without destroying the lock (I have a second key) Please help me. Hi Timmy, Way back in the days of my youth, a friend got a broken key out of a fork lock by 'welding' a steel rod onto the stub. IIRC, sharpen a welding rod/coat hanger, attach 12V jumper cables to the + and - bits, and hold everything together until well fused. Carefully extract broken key stub. It was a while ago - maybe there was more to it... Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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