trmoyer Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 A few drops of coolant on the garage floor, a look under the fairing and the water pump was dripping a little. Hoped the my local Honda dealer had one as they fit a ton of bikes previously but no dice. The order will go in tomorrow and hope it arrives next Wednesday. Sort of bummed but it could be worse. Quote
Member Contributer Lorne Posted July 30, 2020 Member Contributer Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, trmoyer said: ...the water pump was dripping a little. Sort of bummed but it could be worse. Indeed, it may still be worse. With a 20 year old engine the water pump shaft and/or seal may be the source of the leak. Keep us posted. 1 Quote
trmoyer Posted July 31, 2020 Author Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lorne said: Indeed, it may still be worse. With a 20 year old engine the water pump shaft and/or seal may be the source of the leak. Keep us posted. I’m hoping it stays with the cover gasket and not the rear side shaft seal. I pulled the pump / shaft assembly to check things out and everything felt and looked good. With just a tick over 20k miles on the clock I’m going to try and remain optimistic 🙂 Edited July 31, 2020 by trmoyer Word smithing Quote
Member Contributer VFROZ Posted July 31, 2020 Member Contributer Posted July 31, 2020 No need to panic. A 6G or even 8G pump will fit, even if part numbers are different. I fitted a 6G pump on my 5G With no problem and I know someone fitted an 8G as well. 1 Quote
trmoyer Posted August 1, 2020 Author Posted August 1, 2020 14 hours ago, VFROZ said: No need to panic. A 6G or even 8G pump will fit, even if part numbers are different. I fitted a 6G pump on my 5G With no problem and I know someone fitted an 8G as well. That’s good to know! I’m hoping I didn’t overlook the possibility that it could have been weeping out the inspection hole. I’ll find out soon enough I guess. I ordered the gasket and an o-ring. When I called my local dealer back to add the o-ring to add it to my order the parts guy was NO HELP. I told him what I had and looking for, no dice. He sent me a text showing what he was looking at, it was the part of the cooling system and thermostat housing portion. I sent him a screen shot showing the pump / side cover area and the Honda part number. He still couldn’t figure it out........ Sigh. So I went online and found a guy that’ll send me one in a few days. Quote
trmoyer Posted August 1, 2020 Author Posted August 1, 2020 I’m just glad I have an original manual. The previous owner gave it to me. 1 Quote
Member Contributer jdmtrinidad Posted August 2, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 2, 2020 If that's leaking, the rest will follow. Time to replace ALL hoses, o-rings, t-stat, and gaskets. 1 Quote
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 2, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 2, 2020 8 hours ago, jdmtrinidad said: If that's leaking, the rest will follow. Time to replace ALL hoses, o-rings, t-stat, and gaskets. Huh? If it ain't broke..... YMMV (Your Moneysupply May Vary ) 1 Quote
Member Contributer jdmtrinidad Posted August 2, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, Dutchy said: Huh? If it ain't broke..... YMMV (Your Moneysupply May Vary ) Yeah, I guess I have THAT boomer mentality. If it ain't broke........it will at the worst time. If I remember right, it was around $250-300 for ALL parts including switches and sensors. Quote
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 2, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 2, 2020 "The worst time...". What would that be? Terrorists have set the timer on a dirty nuclear bomb and you are the one and only person who only has his VFR to get there on time to stop the clock? Mail-in voting has been banned and your only mode of transport is your VFR to get to the polling station on time and your vote the critical one to oust The Donald? $300 is a set of tyres for that coast to coast ride..... 1 Quote
JimMoore Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 12 hours ago, jdmtrinidad said: If that's leaking, the rest will follow. Time to replace ALL hoses, o-rings, t-stat, and gaskets. Yeah, I'm gonna vote against that too. Quote
Member Contributer jdmtrinidad Posted August 2, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Dutchy said: "The worst time...". What would that be? Terrorists have set the timer on a dirty nuclear bomb and you are the one and only person who only has his VFR to get there on time to stop the clock? Mail-in voting has been banned and your only mode of transport is your VFR to get to the polling station on time and your vote the critical one to oust The Donald? $300 is a set of tyres for that coast to coast ride..... Well, I guess it's just me. I prefer to stay ahead of maintenance. OCD. Maybe go for a ride, hose/o-ring blows, then call for a tow if no friends available. $ for that equals the cost of parts. Apologize if I gave "fake news", jeez. 🙄 Quote
JoelF Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 It's been a long time since I've seen a hose burst unless something was ridden/driving while overheating. What are some of the cooling related parts that people have seen fail that have ended in a tow? My T-stat failed open. Annoying but not a "down gripe." I'm really impressed with the quality of the rubber parts on cars and bikes in the last 20 years. Fuel lines in the 80's however... Quote
trmoyer Posted August 2, 2020 Author Posted August 2, 2020 If I was still in my old job I’d say yeah let’s go through it all replacing everything but I don’t have the disposable income that I used to have. Not saying it’s totally a off the chart to replace these items but I do have a bit of a budget crunch with this bike. If something is suspect then I’ll go for it. Otherwise for a 21 year old bike with 20k miles she’s doing alright. No harm done as I’m always open to suggestions and advise. 1 Quote
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 3, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 3, 2020 17 hours ago, jdmtrinidad said: Well, I guess it's just me. I prefer to stay Apologize if I gave "fake news", . 🙄 No need to apologise, each to his own Quote
JoelF Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 I'll be floored if this isn't a bad water pump weeping as typical. Maybe due to lack of cooling system maintenance. Please check the coolant voltage before draining, if you can. Quote
trmoyer Posted August 6, 2020 Author Posted August 6, 2020 14 hours ago, JoelF said: I'll be floored if this isn't a bad water pump weeping as typical. Maybe due to lack of cooling system maintenance. Please check the coolant voltage before draining, if you can. Very well could have been weeping from the insp hole. I didn’t look close enough before removing the cover and pulling the pump. The gasket I’d ordered hasn’t arrived at the dealer yet but I did get a new o-ring. I’ll put things back together after getting the cover gasket and see before ordering a pump. I see on bikebandit they are $148 which isn’t to bad. Quote
Member Contributer Grum Posted August 6, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, trmoyer said: Very well could have been weeping from the insp hole. I didn’t look close enough before removing the cover and pulling the pump. The gasket I’d ordered hasn’t arrived at the dealer yet but I did get a new o-ring. I’ll put things back together after getting the cover gasket and see before ordering a pump. I see on bikebandit they are $148 which isn’t to bad. Don't mess with it, fit a new one. Even though your bike may have low mileage the pump has been sat in the engine coolant for 22 years. For around $150, just fit a nice new one its your best investment, you'll be right for another 20years! Cheers 1 Quote
trmoyer Posted August 6, 2020 Author Posted August 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Grum said: Don't mess with it, fit a new one. Even though your bike may have low mileage the pump has been sat in the engine coolant for 22 years. For around $150, just fit a nice new one its your best investment, you'll be right for another 20years! Cheers Sigh........ Yes, you guys won the pool on this, bad mechanical seal weeping out the inspection hole after fitting gasket, O-ring and refilling with coolant. Wanted to get a pump from bikebandit for 150 but the lead time is 1-2 weeks. Paid a little extra and getting one from partzilla, should be here mid to late next week. My wife is not impressed with the downtime.... Quote
Member Contributer Lorne Posted August 7, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, trmoyer said: Sigh........ Yes, you guys won the pool on this, bad mechanical seal weeping out the inspection hole... It's never good form to engage in schadenfreude. But you'll have a water pump you can count on not failing in the middle of nowhere. Quote
Member Contributer VFROZ Posted August 7, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 7, 2020 8 hours ago, trmoyer said: My wife is not impressed with the downtime.... Bugger, you should have used that opportunity to replace said faulty water pump with a newer 2015 VFR. Better safe than sorry I say. 1 Quote
trmoyer Posted August 14, 2020 Author Posted August 14, 2020 An update, well sort of. I had ordered a pump through partzilla as it showed available in 2-3 days. Well the avail date keeps slipping to I cancelled the order and went back to my local Honda dealer. I should have just ordered from them in the first place but Zilla showed it available sooner. Long story short, paid a chunk more for the pump but it should be in tomorrow afternoon. Sigh........ Quote
trmoyer Posted August 14, 2020 Author Posted August 14, 2020 Pump Is in hand!!!!! Time to get home and put her back together. Quote
trmoyer Posted August 14, 2020 Author Posted August 14, 2020 Pump installed, hoses connected, coolant added, oil added, followed the Honda manual for adding coolant & bleeding the air from the system and went for a quick spin. Things appear ok. Now, how do I know if the air has really been burped from the system? I’m going to recheck the coolant in the morning before heading out. A little paranoid but I shouldn’t be lol. Quote
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted August 15, 2020 Member Contributer Posted August 15, 2020 As long as the system is bled while the bike is resting on the side stand, making the cap the highest point in the system it should be good. A tell that the system isn't full is that the fan will not come on - the coolant is too low to cover the sensor to complete the fan's circuit. Quote
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