Member Contributer joepopp Posted October 25, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted October 25, 2017 I just got an email from Spiegler saying they do not have stainless lines for the 8th Gen. Anybody have measurements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer deltaboxii Posted October 25, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted October 25, 2017 Have you checked into Galfer? I have had good luck with their lines myself. Have them on all 3 VFRs and the Hawk GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer joepopp Posted October 25, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, deltaboxii said: Have you checked into Galfer? I have had good luck with their lines myself. Have them on all 3 VFRs and the Hawk GT. Will do that now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted October 25, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted October 25, 2017 HEL lines are pretty good, their 5/6 Gen VFR kits are really well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFROZ Posted October 26, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted October 26, 2017 Not hard to measure yourself. I got mine custom made by HEL. Good product and looks great. I just made a drawing of what I wanted with lengths, and they made it and sent them in under 2 weeks (in Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer joepopp Posted October 26, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 26, 2017 I am working with Galfer now. They make an ABS set and they are determining what in needed for Non-ABS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer joepopp Posted October 26, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 hours ago, VFROZ said: Not hard to measure yourself. I got mine custom made by HEL. Good product and looks great. I just made a drawing of what I wanted with lengths, and they made it and sent them in under 2 weeks (in Australia). Not so easy on the 8th Gen. Special fittings and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted October 26, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted October 26, 2017 4 hours ago, joepopp said: Not so easy on the 8th Gen. Special fittings and all. The 6 Gen has several "special" connector blocks, which HEL incorporates into their lines, so it really is a simple swap out of the lines. From what I have seen with the Galfer kits, it is not a direct replacement like the HEL lines are. Not saying the Galfer lines are not as good, but they do seem to do it differently than HEL does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Skids Posted October 26, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Duc2V4 said: The 6 Gen has several "special" connector blocks, which HEL incorporates into their lines, so it really is a simple swap out of the lines. From what I have seen with the Galfer kits, it is not a direct replacement like the HEL lines are. Not saying the Galfer lines are not as good, but they do seem to do it differently than HEL does. Maybe that applies to the 8th Gen but the Galfer kit I bought (a group buy on VFRD) for my 6th Gen was a direct replacement and easy to fit. Are you sure Galfer do a different type for the 8th Gen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rectaltronics Posted October 26, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted October 26, 2017 When I bought a Galfer set for my 4th gen I recall being irritated that it didn't follow the OEM layout. YMMV. May be totally irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer joepopp Posted October 26, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 26, 2017 6 hours ago, Duc2V4 said: The 6 Gen has several "special" connector blocks, which HEL incorporates into their lines, so it really is a simple swap out of the lines. From what I have seen with the Galfer kits, it is not a direct replacement like the HEL lines are. Not saying the Galfer lines are not as good, but they do seem to do it differently than HEL does. TO me anything that isn't a banjo bolt is special! HAHAHA. I will contact HEL and see what they say. Seems like somebody should have a kit for the 8th Gens by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenac Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Definitely interested in this. I would love some lines for mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem317 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Anybody have an update on the Galfer lines for a non-ABS VFR? I'm seeing conflicting fitments on different websites. Some say it would fit, others say it would not. EDIT: The Galfer part number is FK003D874-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Thumbs Posted June 18, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 18, 2018 Galfer now have a full kit for the 8th gen, $237 + shipping Fitting instructions here http://galferusa.com/static/files/downloads/D874-8 Instructions.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlias Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Is this all overkill for the street? I need to change fluids and change pads next year (pads are at 50% right now). Since I don't love the braking feel of the bike, I'd love to improve feel and "bite" while all the parts are off... Has anyone done this or similar on an 8th gen and can report their results and use case (ie. street, track or both)? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer FJ12Ryder Posted June 18, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 18, 2018 I don't consider it overkill for the street at all. IMO it makes the brakes more predictable and easier to modulate since there is no swelling of the lines under pressure. All the master cylinder pressure goes to the brakes with none wasted expanding those rubber lines. I think it's one of the best things to do to your bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted June 18, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'll have to agree with FJ12Ryder, I much prefer the feel of the brakes with the SS lines, vice the rubber lines. This goes more for my 2001, as it is almost 10 years older than my 09 and even that one has the SS lines. I'm more on the side of having and not needing, then needing and not having. This is really important with brakes, IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR78 Posted June 19, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 19, 2018 The only thing to check is that the line kit incorporates the ABS modulator. The Galfer kit seems to, but HEL have not sorted it yet. Once you have tried braided lines, you won't go back. A lot of bikes come standard with braided lines, so it isn't an overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlias Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You guys are going to make me POOR! 😉 Now I have no choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Thumbs Posted June 19, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, VFR78 said: Once you have tried braided lines, you won't go back. A lot of bikes come standard with braided lines, so it isn't an overkill. Agreed, my CCM had braided lines OEM, so different, touch the lever and you can feel the brakes working instantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem317 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 10:48 AM, Ohlias said: Is this all overkill for the street? I need to change fluids and change pads next year (pads are at 50% right now). Since I don't love the braking feel of the bike, I'd love to improve feel and "bite" while all the parts are off... Has anyone done this or similar on an 8th gen and can report their results and use case (ie. street, track or both)? Thank you! Can't speak to the application on a VFR but on my CBR it was a night and day difference over the stock rubber brake lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem317 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 7:51 AM, Thumbs said: Galfer now have a full kit for the 8th gen, $237 + shipping Fitting instructions here http://galferusa.com/static/files/downloads/D874-8 Instructions.pdf Is this just for the Deluxe models with ABS or do you know if it will work with the non-ABS base models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Thumbs Posted June 24, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 24, 2018 13 hours ago, mikem317 said: Is this just for the Deluxe models with ABS or do you know if it will work with the non-ABS base models. The fitting instructions refer to running a line to the ABS, I'm not sure of the difference in the other lines, if any, but if you don't have ABS presumably you don't use that hose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR78 Posted June 25, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 25, 2018 If you don't have ABS, then a race setup is likely all you will need. That is two lines from the master cylinder. Help can probably do that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR78 Posted June 25, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted June 25, 2018 I mean Hel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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