Member Contributer Aegisranger Posted October 11, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 The mufflers on my Scorpion Exhaust just seem too long for me. I'd like to shorten them a bit, like 4 inches or so. I played a bit with Microsoft Paint and like the look. What do you all think? Should I put this on my winter project list? Compare the images... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think it looks great with the shortened mufflers. They look more balanced that way. If you have the skills to do a good job, I say go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 The shorter version looks much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Chop em!!! It will look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veefer800Canuck Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 The shorter version looks much better louder. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted October 11, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 Do eet. Weekend project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BCmcrider Posted October 11, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think the shortened ones look better. Is that the proper Scorpion application or are these a retrofit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer HumalogAddict Posted October 11, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think the shortened ones look better. Is that the proper Scorpion application or are these a retrofit? Seriously.... I would be surprised if they were made for this bike and that is the best they could come up with. Shorter is much nicer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Would chopping the pipes short affect exhaust flow/scavenging, as I thought exhaust system designers usually want a bit of volume on their end cans to get best tune out of the engine.. Is there any way you can pull the cans farther forward under the tail, by cutting the pipes in front of it shorter so you don't have to chop too much off the cans? Beck 95 VFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer FHR Posted October 11, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 Would chopping the pipes short affect exhaust flow/scavenging, as I thought exhaust system designers usually want a bit of volume on their end cans to get best tune out of the engine.. Is there any way you can pull the cans farther forward under the tail, by cutting the pipes in front of it shorter so you don't have to chop too much off the cans? Beck 95 VFR +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Aegisranger Posted October 11, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think the shortened ones look better. Is that the proper Scorpion application or are these a retrofit? Seriously.... I would be surprised if they were made for this bike and that is the best they could come up with. Shorter is much nicer! This is the correct system for the VFR. The Scorpion mufflers are long because they are EU noise legal. So they are long and quiet. I want to make them shorter, which will also make them a bit louder... but since they are so quiet to begin with I don't think it will be a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Aegisranger Posted October 11, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 Would chopping the pipes short affect exhaust flow/scavenging, as I thought exhaust system designers usually want a bit of volume on their end cans to get best tune out of the engine.. Is there any way you can pull the cans farther forward under the tail, by cutting the pipes in front of it shorter so you don't have to chop too much off the cans? Beck 95 VFR No way to pull them in more. This was a 'system' from Scorpion, not just individual 'slip on' mufflers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BCmcrider Posted October 11, 2011 Member Contributer Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think the shortened ones look better. Is that the proper Scorpion application or are these a retrofit? Seriously.... I would be surprised if they were made for this bike and that is the best they could come up with. Shorter is much nicer! This is the correct system for the VFR. The Scorpion mufflers are long because they are EU noise legal. So they are long and quiet. I want to make them shorter, which will also make them a bit louder... but since they are so quiet to begin with I don't think it will be a big deal. I agree with your assessment that they would look better shorter but they don't need much. Another thing to consider is adding a topcase in which case they likely would look great the way they are. Then you just have to decide whether you like the look of the topcase. Unfortunate that there is no way to test what they will sound like when shortened as it's a little difficult to go back. Tig welder anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Would chopping the pipes short affect exhaust flow/scavenging, as I thought exhaust system designers usually want a bit of volume on their end cans to get best tune out of the engine.. Is there any way you can pull the cans farther forward under the tail, by cutting the pipes in front of it shorter so you don't have to chop too much off the cans? Beck 95 VFR No way to pull them in more. This was a 'system' from Scorpion, not just individual 'slip on' mufflers. So there's no slip-on joint between the end can and the pipes going up the seat?? If there are, you might be able to cut part of the straight pipes under the seat, going towards the can to pull them in forward. That's what I was suggesting. Beck 95 VFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Aegisranger Posted October 12, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted October 12, 2011 Would chopping the pipes short affect exhaust flow/scavenging, as I thought exhaust system designers usually want a bit of volume on their end cans to get best tune out of the engine.. Is there any way you can pull the cans farther forward under the tail, by cutting the pipes in front of it shorter so you don't have to chop too much off the cans? Beck 95 VFR No way to pull them in more. This was a 'system' from Scorpion, not just individual 'slip on' mufflers. So there's no slip-on joint between the end can and the pipes going up the seat?? If there are, you might be able to cut part of the straight pipes under the seat, going towards the can to pull them in forward. That's what I was suggesting. Beck 95 VFR Oh, I'll have to look at that... could maybe gain a few inches there. I'd just have to be careful that the can does not touch the bodywork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VietHorse Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I don't think shortern the canisters is good idea. There are lots of stuff inside the canisters and it cost you lot of work. The best idea is shortern the conection pipe and push the canisters forward as Beck rec'mended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I have cut mufflers before and had no ill affects on either my R6 or VFR. The hard part is cutting everything perfectly straight and riveting the endcap back on. I love shortened cans because they sound so much better and throatier than the long cans. I have an 8" delkevic shorty on my 4th gen and love it. I have checked the plugs multiple times and have put 8,000 miles on it with no ill effects or flat spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 There will be no issues with chopping the cans... It will be a bit louder but he''s only chopping a few inches, those cans are pretty long. It will be a mostly cosmetic surgery. Chop them, you'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Shorties for sure! I've never liked any of the long looking aftermarket exhaust out there, I think Remus made some sweet looking shorties and once seeing that I chopped mine down immediately, think there 9" long now if I remember correctly. Sorry don't have any pics on the computer. Actually my avatar shows how short mine are! DO IT!!!!!!! BR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swelcher Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I have that exact same exhaust on mine BUT they don't stick out that far not even close. You just need to cut/shorten the exhaust pipes where they are connected and move them down closer as others have suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VietHorse Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 So... what 's outcome? Or waiting util end of winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Aegisranger Posted November 18, 2011 Author Member Contributer Share Posted November 18, 2011 So... what 's outcome? Or waiting util end of winter? This is on my "Winter to-do List" along with new tires, heated grips, rear tire hugger, louder horn, 12v power outlet, Power Commander V, maybe a gearing change, and some other minor things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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