keny Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Well sometimes you get lucky! A friend of mine that has not been working on bikes for 10+ years but before that built working bikes from damaged as street fighters to did go and digg in his storage and found what you see in next picture and did give me them for free! Well if you have seen my other topic in Europe section, I have been slowly bringing life to the friends KLR600, so guess it's a thanks for that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastdruid Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 1:46 PM, keny said: Thanks for this input. I did try this route on my 87 RC24 I had back in the days but one of the mounting bolts will not line up. I had the cover made slimmer to avoid the longer clutch push rod as keep the distance to sprocket the same. Eventually I sold the parts before testing as I sold the RC24 to buy a 5th gen. The 4th gen also use a electric speedometer. It certainly fits the 88+ but the lower rear most bolt goes on to the gear-change mechanism cover which *does* differ between the 86-87 and 88+ so maybe it doesn't fit the 86/87. The part number for the 86-87 includes the gasket, the 88+ doesn't but the lack of a part number for just the cover on the 86-87 does suggest it's different. Although visually I can't see any differences. I'd missed that the RC36/2 used an electronic speedo. It might be a straight swap in, the only real issue being the trip meter reset and the holes for the trip on the RC24 are individual numbers rather than one "block". Tempted given the relatively low price of a new one (and because I have some spare clocks) to try and make it fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 Well not much has happened because after the bike wash I got a bad back and after that busy making new electricity to my house and it's still going on, but soon things will happen. Thro I can't decide if I will just get a NC24 front wheel or put the cbr1000f fork I have on it 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 Well as you have been reading in a other topic, been busy whit other stuff lately But I think plan will be to ride it a bit next summer as it is, with orginal fairing, after the carbs are looked thro as got new float chamber o-rings and need to check the rear brake also. will find other parts still needed before starting the fairing conversion... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 Could not resist these for 20€ a disc New that fits RC24 as my CBR600F2 also. A friend spotted them in a place that sell stuff from bankruptcy companies Quit a bargain I think 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 Let there be light so you can see what you do Will be connected soon. Led power 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 A few new bits shopped for my RC24 today And in shop was a pleasant surprise to look at Sure would not mind one! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 Been thinking what all I need to get this project together. I have come to the conclusion that the cbr900 fairing conversation might have to wait until next winter, for several reasons. I want to get all bikes I have as runner's, so my FJ1200 will need some love to, then also I need to find quit a few bits for the mod so need to find them first, and fund to buy them. But I will try to ride the RC24 as is next summer for sure. I got the carb float chamber o-rings as rear brake pads, aside that need to sort the oil leak from drain plug, leaking even new cupper washer... Then it needs a fresh front tire, and then I start to think if I would need to get a NC24 front rim same time so I don't need to change it later to other rim. Would sure be nice. And one more thing, the other fors dust seal is in need of change for sure! A picture of that later..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted January 2 Member Contributer Share Posted January 2 I would verify the size of that wheel, width and diameter. It might look the part, but it might not be an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 On 1/2/2024 at 5:59 PM, Captain 80s said: I would verify the size of that wheel, width and diameter. It might look the part, but it might not be an upgrade. Well that's a thing I been thinking off, might have most parts to do an convention, but as a former convention on a rc24 I had didn't work out to my liking, I actually turned that bike back to stock in front end. Yes the 37mm fork tubes are flexy, the diagonal tires not as grippy as modern radials, but I go love how fast the steering is whit the 16" wheel, had even the fork tubes lower in the triples to Kake it faster, a friend tough it was on the edge of being nervous! So that's why I'm towards just change the look of front wheel and add a cbr600F matching rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Well here some pictures of the things that need attention. 1. Fork seal dust cover The picture say it all, was wrapped whit electric tape as bike came to me. Can't believe it was not changed as fork's are refurbished a few years back according to former owner! 2. Leaking oil plug This is how much it has been leaking since I changed oil after I bought the bike, not huge but still needs sorting 3. Front tire The tire is not ballad, still soft rubber even DOT15, but has a deep cut over tread that is not a good thing. Fresh one needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tsmitty Posted January 4 Member Contributer Share Posted January 4 Damn Kenny, wish I could help you! Is that lower fork tube broken? Regardless, the forks don't look like they ever been touched. Do you think the oil pans' fatal and if so, how deep do you have to go to get that out of there? Good luck Dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted January 4 Member Contributer Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, keny said: Well that's a thing I been thinking off, might have most parts to do an convention, but as a former convention on a rc24 I had didn't work out to my liking, I actually turned that bike back to stock in front end. Yes the 37mm fork tubes are flexy, the diagonal tires not as grippy as modern radials, but I go love how fast the steering is whit the 16" wheel, had even the fork tubes lower in the triples to Kake it faster, a friend tough it was on the edge of being nervous! So that's why I'm towards just change the look of front wheel and add a cbr600F matching rear. What specifically "didn't work out" to your liking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted January 4 Member Contributer Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, keny said: Well here some pictures of the things that need attention. 1. Fork seal dust cover The picture say it all, was wrapped whit electric tape as bike came to me. Can't believe it was not changed as fork's are refurbished a few years back according to former owner! 2. Leaking oil plug This is how much it has been leaking since I changed oil after I bought the bike, not huge but still needs sorting 3. Front tire The tire is not ballad, still soft rubber even DOT15, but has a deep cut over tread that is not a good thing. Fresh one needed. "Refurbished a few years back" = "splitting dust seal from corrosion wrapped in electrical tape last century" Clean the oil pan and apply some baby powder if you're not sure where it's leaking from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 17 hours ago, Captain 80s said: What specifically "didn't work out" to your liking? Like I did say I really like how fast the handling is whit the 16" wheel, specially as fork's are dropped a bit. Whit the fork I tried (94 ZX9R) steering was slow, so slow it was scary, it just didn't want to turn. I had a 18" PVM modular rear wheel of a old gsxr rear whit a 170/60 tire and a slightly longer shock, 2 mm longer than orginal Hagon. Even it's spring was on stiff side and no preload steering was really heavy. So I prefer to not to mess whit the steering again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 17 hours ago, Captain 80s said: "Refurbished a few years back" = "splitting dust seal from corrosion wrapped in electrical tape last century" Clean the oil pan and apply some baby powder if you're not sure where it's leaking from. 😅 Yes, not a pro fork rebuild The oil pan is leaking from oil plug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted January 5 Member Contributer Share Posted January 5 6 hours ago, keny said: Like I did say I really like how fast the handling is whit the 16" wheel, specially as fork's are dropped a bit. Whit the fork I tried (94 ZX9R) steering was slow, so slow it was scary, it just didn't want to turn. I had a 18" PVM modular rear wheel of a old gsxr rear whit a 170/60 tire and a slightly longer shock, 2 mm longer than orginal Hagon. Even it's spring was on stiff side and no preload steering was really heavy. So I prefer to not to mess whit the steering again. There is nothing wrong with how a stock VFR handles, so liking that 16" front is expected. But it sounds like you just didn't get lucky with the geometry throwing parts together. Slow steering is certainly not a characteristic of a 3.5 x 17 front wheel on a properly modded VFR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastdruid Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/5/2024 at 2:29 PM, Captain 80s said: There is nothing wrong with how a stock VFR handles, so liking that 16" front is expected. But it sounds like you just didn't get lucky with the geometry throwing parts together. Slow steering is certainly not a characteristic of a 3.5 x 17 front wheel on a properly modded VFR. 100% this. Ok so I have an 88 with the 17in front/rear, the suspension is dated and both soft and harsh at the same time (wonders of damper rod forks) and as stock it wallowed round longer faster bends (IMO entirely down to the soft front). But it handles way better than it has any right to for a bike that old. Admittedly does need more muscling to really get the best from it, my particular favourite with it was the point and squirt. Brake late and deep, get it turned quick, get it upright and fire it out. You *can* end up with slower steering with the 17in wheel conversion depending on which *REAR* tyres you go for but as all the 3.5" front choices are smaller (575.8mm for a 120/60R17, 599.8mm for a 120/70R17 vs 607.8mm for the 110/80V17) if that is the only change then you won't. The geometry on the RC24 is very much on the stable side so you can get away with a fair bit before it gets "nervous"...but you do then start to run out of ground clearance. Better to raise the rear IMO. While a 170/60R18 is damn near identical sized to the 140/80V17 or 130/80/V18 a 170 is going to feel very different to a 130! You've got to lean it more for the same speed and it's going to feel less nimble because of that. My suspicion would be however with changing the forks it was a combination of factors, maybe even the offset was wrong (as it would have needed different yokes) and gave you too much trail which made it overly stable. Certainly I've been burnt in the past changing too much at once, change one thing see how it works and then change the next thing keeping notes of what works and what doesn't. Changing everything at once is how I ruined the handling of my track bike (which I've *finally* sorted). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 Well I have had 3 RC24, all whit 16/18 wheels, first a 87, next 2 86 Models. The 87 I did modifications to mostly, But yes, the geometry got screwed up. I had a Hagon shock rear whit a stiff spring as back then my former wife did like to join rides as pillion. Singel riding it was a bit to stiff actually but helped whit geometry. The ZX9R sure has quit a stepper head angle, and it's not much shorter than orginal. Whit a 110/70 tire the steering was a bit better but even the tire is approved on a 3,5 rim I easy used all tread in normal riding, so profile was to flat. Also had a 160/60 rear (18") as the 170/60 did wear out as more available. Here my 87 whit that ZX9R fork Side view But eventually did put stock fork back on. Did rebuild the forks as brake's, WP springs and 15w oil that made them a bit hash on sharp bumps but handling was good otherwise. Tried a hurricane front wheel whit a 110/70 front tire but it was scary laying down much as the 110/70 needs a 3" rim, 2,5" rim is to slim. Here on a hurricane front wheel in Germany 2008 whit a 110/70-17, sceary in corners... Next tried a 110/80 but was not long on the rim, or tire was but changed the front wheel back to orginal 16" On that black painted orginal wheel I had brake disc's from a NC24 whit semi floating design, looked cool at least I at times regret selling this 87, I ever had a chance to buy it back but didn't have money just then. Had a 5th gen after this which was a great bike, but needed far higher speed to get same thrills the just little modified RC24 give. And thing's I then lived whit, like a loud Micron exhaust, now could not 😅 The mirrors on other had I did like a lot! Here the first 86, just before it did disappear from my garage, I did live in a time when bikes came as did go then... Well perhaps still do but hope to slow down whit that...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tsmitty Posted January 7 Member Contributer Share Posted January 7 The stock 86 forks look so flippin spindly compared to the ZX9! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Some stuff came in mail today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 The reason I change the fuel cap is the old one is hard to open as the key is broken inside the lock The design is slightly different but fits, need to find a few matching bolts through as different looks So slow progress but still some 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted January 16 Member Contributer Share Posted January 16 Not sure if you've done any pre-fitting, but while the bolt patterns look the same, they are actually off a little. The RC24 is unique and slightly different than every other Honda from 1987 on. There might be enough room to slightly elongate the holes to mount. EDIT: Sorry. Re-read your post and I missed "but fits". Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Thumbs Posted January 17 Member Contributer Share Posted January 17 I’d still check the bolts fit, the one I bought for my 89 didn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 On 1/17/2024 at 2:51 PM, Thumbs said: I’d still check the bolts fit, the one I bought for my 89 didn’t I do have to check then! I actually just did put the new on top on the old and did look alike.... 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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