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It won't be too hot if it isn't touching exhaust pipes and it won't. Any distance between the lock and the pipe has air moving and will not be hot at all. Love your work, BTW!

I've used a sturdy support next to the bike to rest the tank on. There is enough of fuel hose length to do that. You just have to disconnect the electric wire. If you can comfortably lift a full tank, you don't really need to siphon.

Crash bars are much more effective than frame sliders. You just don't see them used often because they are typically focused on the stunt bike market. Stunters have crash cages - 3 points of attachment (at least). These crash bars have two. Furthermore, since the two points attach to aluminum parts, I don't think that they will be as effective as those on cruisers, where they attach to steel. JMHO. No evidence to support any of it.

I don't know where to get them. Just curious why you want them though. If you want to protect from tip-over, then regular sliders will do just fine. These bars will do nothing to protect plastics in case of a crash at any speed above 5 MPH. They may result in even more damage though when they fold and crush plastics and possibly radiators. Just my 2C

Very nice work. Not being too familiar with machining process, how do you machine the insides of the hub? Is the wheel installed into the spindle of the lathe or is the wheel staionery and cutter spins inside? Or are you using Dremel?

Looked up wheel weights. VFR 12lb (4th gen) and 13lb all others (SSSA) Mini - around 20lb for an average 17" wheel Not too bad if looks is the goal.

First time I see something like this done. Me like :fing02:

Meeny :cool:

That's pretty funny. :fing02:

Alright then. But none of your mods will improve the top end of that bike. I recommend replacing the old duct tape with new. You know, for looks and improved aredynamics :laughing6-hehe:

In my most humble of opinions, you have the bike sorted out pretty well as is. If I can ever make the same statement, I ain't touching anything. I wonder if any of the USD conversions done by others in the past have really yielded acceptable ROI. Improved brakes, probably, although I wonder by how much really. Same with the forks. I understand the improved stiffness and more knobs to turn, etc... BUT if you already have the thing sorted out. Why go through this and then face a chance of not being able to say that the bike handles even more amazingly well. I guess to me, this suspension thing is more of a dark magic than a science and personally I'd be afraid of losing the 'magic'. And yes, I do understand the desire to improve and change things. I'm the same way really.:comp13: Good luck with it. :fing02:

Great find! Thanks.

I call BS on the 'simple' part of it.

That is absolute bullshit statement and you should be ashamed of yourself. THAT is why I resurrected this thread....to expose this crazy political nonsense that blindly supports "capitalist oil conspiracy theory"....yet attacks anyone who points out the decades of scientific work that has totally debunked the Brown's Gas Conspiracy is infuriating and baffling. Slavery? Oil addiction? Those are big words and have no place here, especially after I [me, Trace] got pounded for bringing this nutbag topic back for inspection by the membership and wondering about your (lack of) progress. I asked for an update, and we got more political spin instead of results. How DARE you shill for your own Pepsi project, asking your fellow VFRD members to vote for you regardless of the merits of your project. Ahhhh...I see. If MONEY goes toward your cause it's okay. If it goes to Exxon....it's evil. Slave oil? No. HHO snake oil? Yes. Welcome to the Matrix, but I'll stick to the Blue Pill, thanks. :lurk: I'd say something here, but I'm not looking for one of these... :laughing6-hehe:

Thanks for the update. Waiting anxiously for the next installment.

Yes, exactly right. I don't think anyone said he should stop, but six months have passed and there was a lot of interest and discussion by both supporters and naysayers, along with an ongoing heated argument that ventured into politics and big business and conspiracy theories. So, what I'm thinkin' is that after tossing this experiment smack-dab into the middle of VFRD-land, it's about time "for letting us know about your efforts". Isn't that fair? Just sayin'.... No. It isn't fair. If VFRD was paying Jes for this service (which it really is IMHO) you would be absolutely correct. I know that it takes me 6 month to wash the damn bike with all the other priorities out there... Just sayin'...

I think that regardless of our expectations of the outcome, we can all agree that everyone wants Jes to carry this experiment through to its conclusion. Several years ago I've been introduced to HHO by one of my hippy vegetarian friends over some beers. Being pretty good at physics in college, I put on my beer soaked thinking cap at the time and decided than it probably isn't possible - conservation of energy and all that. However, the prospect of being able to gain a dramatic improvement of fuel economy with a relatively small investment got me excited. I'm not one of those people who believe that I can't possibly be wrong. This is one of those times when I'm looking forward to being proven wrong. Jes - Please do not get discouraged by the naysayers and continue with your experiment. Even if it turns out that HHO is BS, your experiment would still succeed. Thank you for trying and for letting us know about your efforts.

I had a similar meeting with the road and went down mostly b/c of grabbing too much brake in the split second that I had to react. The front tucked and down I went... I now own an ABS version. Let the computer think for me next time I need it.

My list is rather modest compared to Mr. Haveskillandlotsafreetime there :biggrin: I originally planned to install some grip heaters and flush clutch and brake fluid over the winter, but had some time the other weekend and just did it. The thought of flushing VTEC brakes used to cause enxiety attacks due to LBS, ABS and other BS, but I downloaded the service manual and it turned out to be not big deal at all. Apparently grip heaters come in two flavors; The shitty ones and the nice ones. I used to have Symtek ones that cost like 40 clams and they were nice. The ones I bought this time cost 15 and are crap. Go figure :goofy: The difference is in the way they handle Hi/Lo settings. The good ones have two heating circuits - High and low power that draw more and less amps respectively. The crappy ones have one high power heating circuit. Low setting is achieved by venting extra amps through an external resistor. Nothing particularly wrong with this design, but its inefficient and I don't like that. So, for the winter, I'll wash the bike, change oil and... Will keep reading threads like this to give me more ideas on how to spend the money :fing02:

That's an Add Reply button a the top and bottom of the page.

Nice to know that one could do it this way. Since I change my oil once a year, I use this opportunity to check the coolant level and inspect them pesky electrical plugs. I may even wipe some crap off with a rag if I'm feeling particularly adventurous.:491:

I don't see this problem as overcoming the laws of thermodynamics. A catalyst is introduced into the system that is claimed to improve combustion. Noone claims that that there is no loss in producing the catalyst. However IF the energy expanded on producing it is less than the gains realized from its use, then we have a net gain. If this is treated as a scientific experiment, then we can not really prove or disprove it by burning gas in a calorimeter with and w/o HHO and measuring the change in temperature less the 'cost' of producing HHO. Real world combustion adds other variables to this equation, that just might tip the net gain in favor of HHO. It is no secret that the i-net is full of BS claims. Sometimes the only way to know for sure is to try it yourself or, like in this case, watch someone who can be trusted do it for you. (we can trust you, right, Jes? :cheerleader:) So IMHO, it is a win-win situation, where all outcomes are positive. Even if it turns out that this claim can't be supported, we will all learn something valuable. Go Jes! :goofy:

Jes, I am very much interested in seeing the numbers. Like wera, I wouldn't put this system on the bike, 'coz the ROE just doesn't pan out IMHO. BUT my truck sure can use an improvement in MPG and it's got plenty of room to install pretty much what ever I want in the engine bay. I've read a lot on HHO conversions and there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus. Some claim up to 300% gains in MPG, some claim 5-15% and some just say that it will kill your engine. It looks like the 300% crowd are a bunch of lunatics while the 'kill your engine' crowd are sponsored by the oil companies. So I would realistically expect about 5-15% gain in MPG. Dyno run would show the power gain/loss. Can't wait for the results! And kudos for trying this :fing02:

Seb, Thanks for the tip. I have a bunch of greasy parts in need of cleaning and I really puzzled over how the hek to clean them up. I really did not want to keep a bucket full of harsh stinky chemicals in the garage. Pinesol I can live with. :lobby: