FrankoQ Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Yet another thread on how to change the oil on your 6th gen. remove left side fairing. get her ready to bleed. remove oil filler cap. get ready to remove plug 17mm socket. let her bleed removing filter is a pain. use strap wrench or the right oil filter cap. put rags on the pipes below cause it will drip a lot. messy messy Cool K&N filter. it already comes with a 17mm top. no need for a filter wrench cap to get it tight. Pour the oil about 3 quarters will do. turn it on. check for leaks. have a drink. All Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Does anyone have a quickie-alternative to those crappy black push-pins that attach the lowers? I HATE those things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallican525 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Quickie, no, not so much. I have switched mine out for the BOLT variety and modified the fairing holes accordingly cause they fit quit a bit tighter. If you have compressed air at your disposal, blowing some of the crap outta those lil clips first helps removal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallican525 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Frank, keep a close eye on that K&N, I don't know if they've fixed, or even addressed, the spot weld leakage issue yet. Several that I know of have popped in the last year, not to mention all the ones out there that I haven't heared of. Good writeup tho!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer RollinAgain Posted July 24, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 24, 2012 Does anyone have a quickie-alternative to those crappy black push-pins that attach the lowers? I HATE those things! Zip TiesRollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer RollinAgain Posted July 24, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 24, 2012 Nice overall writeup. I would only add a couple of things. It's always good to warm the bike up a little to warm the oil so it drains easier. I also like to take a sheet of aluminum foil and slid it over the tops of the headers so they don't get oily when you remove the oil filter. I'm not sure I would trust those K&N filters after a couple of horror stories I've heard about them. Rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Robin Rich Posted July 24, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 24, 2012 +1 on the aluminum foil. It saves a lot of mess. I went back to Honda filters after having a K&N leak for no apparent reason. The nut was sure convenient though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveM Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Nice write-up, but I have to say I couldn't disagree more with your assessment of the 6th gen plastic body pins. Once you know how to use them they beat any of the screw types for ease of use and reuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer ki-speed Posted July 24, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 24, 2012 Nice write-up, but I have to say I couldn't disagree more with your assessment of the 6th gen plastic body pins. Once you know how to use them they beat any of the screw types for ease of use and reuse. Agreed!!! Use a golf tee to push-in (release) those 6th gen plastic body pins. So quick and easy. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer HumalogAddict Posted July 24, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 24, 2012 one thing about the tightening of the filter.... I've always applied a thin coat of oil on the o-ring and then tightened the filter by hand, noithing more. It's more then enough and makes removing it less of a pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoQ Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Nice overall writeup. I would only add a couple of things. It's always good to warm the bike up a little to warm the oil so it drains easier. I also like to take a sheet of aluminum foil and slid it over the tops of the headers so they don't get oily when you remove the oil filter. I'm not sure I would trust those K&N filters after a couple of horror stories I've heard about them. Rollin Good points. I did get a lot of oil spilled on the headers when removing the filter. Thanks for the warning about the K&N filter. I hope this one holds until the next oil change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MarkDetroit Posted July 24, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 24, 2012 Does anyone have a quickie-alternative to those crappy black push-pins that attach the lowers? I HATE those things! Zip TiesRollin +1 0n the Zip Ties. A much more user friendly arrangement! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Olive Posted July 24, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 24, 2012 I can attest to the issues with K&N spot welds. I have had exactly two K&N filters on a VFR and both of them had issues. To be fair the second one only had a small drip, but the experience last year that involved a tow truck has them very low on my list of preferred filters. I don't like to see my bike bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Does anyone have a quickie-alternative to those crappy black push-pins that attach the lowers? I HATE those things! Zip TiesRollin Great tip! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACIFICMAN Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I have come round on the plastic clips. When you know how to release them they do the job beautifully. I did not know how to release them at first and broke a couple learning. Now, all good. My bitch about them is the price. I found some at NAPA that fit the holes but use a phillips head style core to open and close, but, they are drag to get out. How do Zip ties work as substitutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud786 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I use some Gm press in plugs, kinda of the same idea, but they simply push in and push out, no complicated fidding, I got them at autozone #961-075 they work Great ,espeically in an area not really seen, they do get alittle cranky with dirt and mud on them. But Ive never had to change them out from wear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 THX, Spud. Anyone adapt Dzus fasterners to his VFR? (Apologies to the OP'er for a bit of a threadjack) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Phantom2 Posted July 29, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 29, 2012 Does anyone have a quickie-alternative to those crappy black push-pins that attach the lowers? I HATE those things! I have replaced the 2 lower ones with a captive nut and screws. I ordered a few of these too. http://www.wiremybike.com/index.php?cPath=44 they sell the steering head powerlet plug kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Phantom2 Posted July 29, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted July 29, 2012 Also http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Dorman-4-pcs-1-4-in-Ford-nylon-push-in-rivet/_/N-255s?itemIdentifier=493520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud786 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Also http://www.autozone....entifier=493520 I just noticed that ford push in rivet you mention, is the same part number I gave , small world!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer speedball73 Posted August 23, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted August 23, 2012 +1 on the K&N, I had one start leaking in the middle of a 6200km road trip last week (filter had been on for 5800km, installed it during pre-winterization oil change in Dec 2011). Not bad enough that I couldn't drive 200km to the dealer for a fix, but sprayed oil all over my hard bags and my riding buddy's bike. Mechanic told me it was leaking out the "top" ie where the spot welds are. Back to Honda filters for me! Walter I can attest to the issues with K&N spot welds. I have had exactly two K&N filters on a VFR and both of them had issues. To be fair the second one only had a small drip, but the experience last year that involved a tow truck has them very low on my list of preferred filters. I don't like to see my bike bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedalpoet Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 That's crazy about the K&N filter. It's all I've used on my bike since I bought it in '07, never a problem, SO much easier to remove and install. I'd never use anything else. +1 about those plastic pins though, I''ve never figured those things out. I opt for real screws or zipties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer carlitos92 Posted September 2, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted September 2, 2012 one thing about the tightening of the filter.... I've always applied a thin coat of oil on the o-ring and then tightened the filter by hand, noithing more. It's more then enough and makes removing it less of a pain. This. If you are using a wrench to tighten an oil filter, "you're doing it wrong." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donwhit Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 All my Soichiro's wear WIX filters...available at O'REILLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer 2thdr Posted September 5, 2012 Member Contributer Share Posted September 5, 2012 WIX filters seem to be good, SuperTech at WalMart were good, but apparently not available anymore, Mobil 1 good but too expensive, Purolator Pure One is good but awful yellow color, Bosh & Champion are also viable alternatives. I usually use the "longer" filter that just clears the header pipes, figuring I get more surface area of filter media so it might filter better longer. One of the best tips I ever got was to loosen the fiter with the bike COLD, then warm up to operatng temp before draining and removing filter. Prevents burnt knuckles. Also I have used the METAL oil filter wrench that looks like a huge socket with great success...don't use the cheap plastic ones, they don't work. +1 (everybody knows) to lube rubber seal of filter with oil before spinning on and hand tight + 1/4 turn (YMMV). Inspect crush washer and use your torque wrench on the drain plug (29 N-m). I keep a stock of crush washers so they are easy to replace if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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