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Looking at my 5th and 6th gens side by side, at least from what I can see this will not work on the 5th g. It does not have the long hex head bolt (standard size instead) and even if one were swapped in, the cushion (Honda's term for the shock mount) does not protrude out far enough past the bolt head for this to have anything to push against (that is the adjustment screw would be outside the shock mount itself). As I need something for my 5th gen, I hope someone can prove me very wrong (please! ) as if it will work, I'm in for one.

I don't think I ever had a bike or a car that ran more beautifully on carbs than my 4th gen. Honda absolutely nailed it with that setup. Ironically the benchmark for my 6th gen has been to get it running as smoothly as my 4th did. I finally got there but it took a lot of tinkering. Just asking - are the intake inlets on a gen 4 spaced about the same as on a 5th gen? I kind of doubt it as the cams' gear train moved from the crank center to the outer end, allowing the pistons to be closer together. If the throttle body would swap relatively easily that would get you good a ways down the road. Maybe custom TB boots? Another thing to overcome would be a fuel pump to supply sufficient pressure - I wouldn't think the 4th gen tank is gong to accommodate a pump internally. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

In the vid I saw him weighing the removed rear ABS pump and exclaiming what an "improvement" he was making . . . and he doesn't know what he pulse generator ring is for??? Gawd help us all if this is the video version of "Son of Wolf" . . .

I don't recall seeing this, so please forgive me if I'm repeating something posted previously. FWIW I have my 6th gen OEM cans (catback) and headers off for some other work, so I thought prior to install I'd compare the weight to that of Wade's headers and my Remus catback setup (including its "Y" pipe). This was done on a digital bathroom scale (holding each then re-weighing myself without and subtracting) so there is a margin of error baked in. At any rate it came out as (rounded to the nearest pound): OEM 32 lbs Wade's 22 lbs Cheers

I watched the 1st installment - Ehh. Maybe he prefers the body work to the 6th gen - to each their own. His rendering looks to be Photoshopped - at least he could have included the 6th gen motor in it.

Any thoughts about doing valve adjustments on the rear head - with the shorter heads it doesn't appear that the 6th gen inspection port is going to line up to provide a view of the 5G timing marks.

+2 Particularly if you have a photo(s) of how you supported the rear of the bike during engine out of frame would be helpful.

Me too . . . amazing how great they look.

Same here. PM the balance and I'll send it.

This was in the first post of the thread. I had probably read through this whole thing 3 times before I noticed it - lots of info to digest. *Some dimensions, features, and specifications of the header will be taken from the TBR. The new header will incorporate the following specifications from the original TBR header design: -header construction will be from 18 gauge 304 stainless steel tubing, [0.049"/1.24mm wall thickness] -header will have 38mm od primary tubes [1.5" od] -header will have 41.5mm od secondary tubes [1 5/8" od] -header will have 51mm od collector tubing [2" od] -header's rear primary tube junctions will be fastened by spring tension fittings -header's left front and left rear primary tubes will merge -header's right front and right rear primary tubes will merge -header will have no crossover of front or rear primary tubes -header's collector exit tube will have a 51mm od [See Note c below] -header's tubing will be mandrel bent

PM sent re interest in 5/6 and 8th gen sets.

I may be alone in this, but my sense of urgency is that for us in the Northern Hemisphere riding season is more or less over and the perfect time to do a major project (in my case maybe also an engine swap) on the bike is at hand. If these don't become available until spring then in order to ride next year the project will have to be put off until this time 2020, losing a year. So all things equal if it could be prior to year end '19 that would be awesome. But time will tell . . . Regarding 8th gen headers some of us want, the routing allows for mounting of the 8th gen lower radiator on earlier models. It's been done on a 6th gen, not sure about on a 5th. See HighSideNZ's thread on that topic here - take note of how the headers hug the block: https://www.vfrdiscussion.com/index.php?/forums/topic/88558-no-more-side-radiators-period/&tab=comments#comment-1092357

There are at least 3 others among us in for an 8th gen set that match up with a standard 5th/6th gen exit position. With Tyga now seeming to be in too, the "I'm interested in headers" contingent seems a bit split. It's not clear to me if Tyga is only making 4th gen versions or if there will be versions for other gens. Left exit headers will leave 6th gen owners stranded as that's not likely what they'll want. Even 5th gen owners might not want to lose their center stand so hard telling if they'll want a left exit, either. I remember counting up those that sat out the first batch of Wade headers and there were a fair number - maybe 10 or so - possibly enough to get another run if we can get organized. Until the thread gets some new life it's not likely any more deposits are coming. It seems doable, just need to get those interested to chime in. I'm in for an 8th gen set with 6th gen compatibility and might also get a standard set for my 5th gen, too.

On the Pit Bull you remove the small plastic cap on the drive side to allow the pin to slide in. I like my Pit Bull, but honestly the ability to roll the bike around while in pieces would be awesome. Once you begin a project on service stands, it ain't movin till you're done. As for "Dancing Queen", it wasn't exactly music for guys, but the music videos weren't difficult to watch, if ya know what I'm sayin . . .

Has it been confirmed that the splayed 8th gen tubes will clear 6th gen bodywork? My gut reaction is that they should , but it would be a major bummer to have them and find out otherwise.

This may bring us to around 8 or 9 for the 5/6 version. Not far to go for a batch, but we'd need a formal count kept to be sure. I seem to recall mention that "a few" had put deposits in on the 2nd batch, so hard to tell for sure where that's at. One thing looks fairly certain - if a 2nd batch does happen, there probably won't be any more, so get 'em while you can.

Do we know if 8th gen headers will be compatible with 5th / 6th gens? I might be in for a set of so. Otherwise I'd be holding out for a 5/6 set. Or, possibly are they similar enough that he would run a batch if the 5/6 and 8 orders together totaled 15?

If I may, could we also please get an update regarding an additional run of 5th / 6th gen headers? Thank you.

Check in with CornerCarver - he's got his Toro bike tuned using a Rapid Bike setup. He's got it dialed in - definitely knows what's what with 6th gen forced induction.