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Trying To Revive A 1993 Vfr 750, Incomplete... And Flooded!

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Another basic question:

The clock light bulb is broken and I cannot figure the bulb reference or if this must come as one part (bulb and holder).

I was able to use a car one but it's too deeps and I cannot close the cover 😞

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Hi @Dutchy

 

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-vfr750f-1993-p-france_model5630/partslist/F__0200.html#.Wx6-Ue6FM3g

 

#2 is the light bulb for indicators and dashboard lightening, this is a W5W. The lightening for the clock is #3 and apparently bulb comes with holder. If it's only a few Euros, I will order it with my next parts order. Unless I can find a standard reference since it looks a lot like this:

https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/r509tybk-1.4w-t5-14v-1.4w-indicator-and-panel-bulb-black-base.html

 

 

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Is this what you mean?

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I don't have the fairing (or the cables--they're attached to the fairing) on the bike at the moment, but it's not complicated to get them to where they need to be at the tank.

 

Ciao,

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11 hours ago, JZH said:
Is this what you mean?
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I don't have the fairing (or the cables--they're attached to the fairing) on the bike at the moment, but it's not complicated to get them to where they need to be at the tank.
 
Ciao,

@JZH I figured how they connect to the lever as we see on your pic, but I don't understand the route around the coil that is managing the left rear cylinder. I would appreciate if you could share some pictures

Envoyé de mon SM-A510F en utilisant Tapatalk
 

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Sorry, the cables are off the bike at the moment, so when I re-fit the fairing I will have to figure it out again myself, but I've done it many times and I don't remember any problems?

 

Ciao,

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And this is finally time for my first ride report, like for real folks!!!!

 

Date:

01 July 2018 - not far from 3 years after I collected her. Seemed like an eternity.

 

Conditions:

Fu$%ing way too hot in full (summer) gears. It was 02:00PM and like 30 degrees C (86 deg F apparently), no wind.

 

General idea:

Go to the gas station, put some gas and put tyres to correct pressure, and ride it in the neighborhood so if it stalls for any reason, I can push it back to home (neighborhood is more or less flat, rather more than less if I have to push the bike).

 

Rationale:

My baby Bandit (she still has no name) failed for various reason in various locations, lots of memories I'd like to avoid repeating. That includes no more gas (classical), forgot to open the reserve (also classical), broken throttle cable (that is scary when someone might be right behind you), fuel tap closing for no reason... on the highway (super scary), bike stalling when hot (ring on one of the 4 spark plugs got crooked between the plug and the engine so air gap when hot),...

 

Previously in this thread:

Current state is that engine is smoking some oil. My friend (the ex-mechanic) told me to ride it so we can assess whether this phenomenon drops with use or not. Then we assess what to do next (probably open the engine again and change the valve seats). 

 

I rode only 1 km to the gas station, waited long in the sun to access the tyre air pump. Then I rode it for only 5 km and that was enough for the day.  Here are my thoughts on this first ride:

- It starts well, even if not started for something like 10 days. Idle is good considering I never synched it with an angled screwdriver (remember I burnt my hand back in September last year). Overall, this is not bad. 

- The Koso voltmeter in the cockpit is nice to have. For now, voltage stays in the 14.1V range when operating. I think I did a good job with the harness to adapt the Shindengen RR.

- The engine character is different from my 1992 Bandit 400 which is an inline 4. This is the only machine I have a decent experience with. I have it since 2010 and made almost 33 000 km with it (the odometer is currently around 99500 km). Next is 100 km I made with my friend 2008 Triumph Street Triple 675. I only rode Vivian for 6 kilometers this day and really slow (I only reached 60 km/h, in city), I don't think I went over 6000 rpm even once, more in the 2000 to 4000 rpm range and all l can tell for now is that is different. More vibey. I am pretty sure you might tell me this is Vivian's soul but I need to reset my mind because this is something else compared to the Bandit. Especially since I really like the smoothness of the inline 4 engine. 

- Brakes: this is a problem. Rear is ok but front is nowhere near decent. Was ok when moving the bike inside the garage or at very low speed when I tested her but now that's a real issue. To be honest, I did not even flushed them (neither from nor rear) because as always, I am torn between doing everything at once (new braided lines, new fluids, new pads maybe, new seals surely) and doing things step by step. But since I want more experience with it, I will flush the front at the end of the week so I can ride it again and longer (and faster maybe).

- Now the real issue: the oil smoke. As long as you ride it, it's ok because you don't notice but when you stop, it's smoking like crazy. You can clearly see white smoke coming out of the exhaust and it stinks. It's worse than any scooter from any pizza delivery guy around here (for US reader: in France at least, those guys are still running 50cc 2 strokes scooter). This is why I stopped after only 5 km because you never know the oil level before the oil pressure indicator pops out. I thought that was enough in terms of emotions so I put it back in the garage.

 

I checked the oil level the following day and it was still to the maximum. Next is new fluid for the front brake then I try to ride it to work (10 km in the morning, 10 in the evening) and will check the oil level to see how it goes.

 

To finish, a few pictures. She looks like I got it from a demolition derby.

 

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The 2 bikes together, I am officially suffering from multiple bike disorder 😉

 

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I only have the 2 main parts of the top front fairing, in very bad shape (but I paid only 35 euros for them). The mirrors are the original and both broken. The previous owner gave me 2 brand new mirrors which are not OEM but are officially crap (they don't stay in place). Screen is I think an Ermax - touring version in dark green. I don't like it but it's ok for now. I do prefer the kind of screen John (@750 ) has on his VFR. I believe it's a Skidmark double bubble screen. Shape is more modern and I like it when transparent of lightly tainted.

 

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To be continued (again)...

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Enjoy the bike, always nice to see one of the old girls resurrected. 

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Just jumping in on the flooding part of this topic. How to properly flood a motorcycle:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EtHUzfdYqE

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7 hours ago, sfdownhill said:

Just jumping in on the flooding part of this topic. How to properly flood a motorcycle:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EtHUzfdYqE

Sounds like I did all of those things including praying 😉

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Skidmarx, from the UK.  The clear version is practically invisible.  

 

Glad it runs!

 

Ciao,

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The story continues...

So today was my 2nd ride. I went to work back and forth 2 times (I went back home for lunch) for an incredible total of 48km, yeehah!!!! :cheerleader:

It went smoothly, fires really quick at startup, no weird things, that was really cool... except for the temperature... This thing is so hot, I feel like she's trying to rost me :biggrin:

Good thing is that white smoke really dropped even if still there, but that is less dramatic than during my first ride. I'll check the oil level tomorrow but I think I will barely notice the difference in terms of oil level.

 

I quickly bleeded the front brake last week-end (I know this should not be done quickly...). But they need a rebuild. Since I did exactly that last week on my Bandit (I have a track day planned in 10 days), I figured this is not rocket science and seals are cheap. Original brake lines will be replaced by braided ones. I see later for new pads (I like red Brembos).

 

Also, I need to address the front fork. I think the stem nut is not tighten enough so I feel (what I believe is) movements on bumps. Also, there might be some preload missing. I'll address that during the weekend.

 

Here are 2 pictures from work.

 

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Note about the white smoke:

I bought from the bay a valve seal kit from a seller in Sweden (39€ vs 160€ at Honda) and received it yesterday. This seems good quality but I wonder why all 16 look identical when Honda has 2 references (1 for intake, the other for exhaust). The sellers told me his records says they should be the same. 

 

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Anyone who know if they are supposed to be identical or not?

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Because I don't want to accept easily the defeat, I dismantled the engine again... 

 

I removed it from the engine, removed the 2 cylinder heads to change the valve seals. I took this opportunity to lap all 16 valves properly with this tool which worked great. The seal I got from the Bay were fine. Some old one were ovals, no surprise they were leaking.

 

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That was obviously before:

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and after the lapping

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The whole thing took me more time that I thought. Engine is now back in the frame and I synch'ed this bad girl. Fires like a charm and gone is the white oil smoke 😉

 

I am currently in the brake rebuild process: new seals and lot of red grease, braided lines, new fluid.

Let's hope I can run it again before Christmas.

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And I just noticed that I started this thread 3 years ago (and 6 days). It's definitely the time to ride it...

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Hi guys,

 

I am not quitting, just got plenty of things going on for the last 10 months, including no more garage at my new place and an insane new toy (2009 Kawi Ninja ZX-10R) as a daily driver.

 

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I just got to get my VFR back and ride it. It has been almost 4 years since I got it and "only" slightly less than 300 km. I probably rode around 200 km last summer, then I re-opened the engine to change the valve stem seals which proved to be efficient since the bike is not smoking anymore 😉 I did not ride it enough to measure the final oil consumption. Time will tell.

 

Next problem to fix is poor stopping power from the front. I rebuilt the calipers but I need to check I flushed them properly, might be some air trapped into the circuit.

Rear brake is working fine but lever is bent (from a previous crash?) so it makes it difficult to find with my right foot. Will have to find only the lever and that will be fine.

 

Also I am about to switch to late VFR800i mirrors from Thurn because mine are broken (both). Security first, look will come after.

 

To be continued...

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