VFROr Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 One of the bikes (2010 DCT - 650 mi) I'm considering buying has a Two Bros slip-on already installed. The dealer doesn't know if it has been re-flashed or not. Are there any conderns re: altered exhaust with no re-programming of ECU? Running lean etc. or does the stock mapping compensate? Also looking at a new 2010 with manual transmission and a new 2013 DCT, at a different dealer but they are priced much higher than the used bike, so many decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer luvtoleanit Posted April 29, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted April 29, 2015 Well I don't like Two Mothers because most of their cans are generic and they don't do any testing with the particular bike. Just made to fit. As far as your question, a can won't make a difference either way. You can check to see if the cat has been removed, or cut off (We call it decatting here) and stainless steel welded in its' place. If the cat is there (99% chance) then no worries whatsoever. It would only be a concern if the cat had been removed. SO yes, the stock ECU can easily compensate for just a slip-on. It's a small change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marriedman Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I agree with leanit that there will be no worries, but Two Brothers did test the can for the VFR1200. They even posted video's of them Dynotuning the 1200. That being said, Two Bros will very often just make a pipe to fit a bike and re-use the can on several bikes. They all do that if they have pipe and can seperate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFROr Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thanks very much for the responses folks! I'm walking out the door to go spend some money right now, glad to have the info first, thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Volfy Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 2Bro wouldn't be my first choice, but mine came with a Titanium M5. Other than the anodized fasteners fading out a bit, I'm pretty impressed with the quality, fit and finish. Repack kits are readily available, and I've already done it once. VFR1200 has a lambda sensor and runs closed loop, so it should have enough leeway to compensate for the slip-on. That's stock, of course. Not sure what the Guhl reflash does. I would hazard a guess that very few aftermarket design exhaust cans specific for every single application they offer. Most often, they determine what style and length from their collection of cans might fit a bike's engine performance envelop best, then run dyno session to confirm. Those rare few that actually custom build cans for a single bike will likely be high dollar, and I have no need or budget for that sort of thing. Mine run fine, both stock length and shortened. https://youtu.be/qS3aRHXDnlg http://www.twobros.com/Cust_Service/Dyno_Charts/dyno_2010_hon_vfr1200_SO.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFROr Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Checked it out and it's very nice, They are hanging a sold sign on it while I go drum up a ride back to the shop. Got a very, very good deal I think. pic from dealer website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFROr Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Best $7100 ever spent. I love this thing already and I just drove it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MadScientist Posted April 30, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted April 30, 2015 Damn, that's a lot of bike for $7100. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volfy Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 You done did well. I just bought a Corbin seat, too. still amazes me a bike with this level of refinement and performance can be gotten almost brand new for $7k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamzombie Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Wow, $7,100? I'd say you made out like a thief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Marsman99 Posted April 30, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted April 30, 2015 Damn it. $7100? I paid $9500 OTD a little over a year ago for my "new" 2010 DCT. Yes, you got a great bike at a great price! We'll be waiting to hear your opinion on the DCT. I see you have clutch bikes too, so your comments will be interesting and relevant. There is a bunch of discourse about the DCT on this forum if you search. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFROr Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 You done did well. I just bought a Corbin seat, too. still amazes me a bike with this level of refinement and performance can be gotten almost brand new for $7k. I'm anxious to try out the Corbin, just tossed it in the back seat of the wife's car for the trip home. Of course I'm eager to get it out on the road period, only the trip across the city in rush hour traffic so far. It was a very good deal, but nothing else remotely close to this in the 3 Honda dealerships I checked with. MotoCorsa Ducati had taken this bike in and they were great to deal with, friendliest service I've ran across in a long while. I may be too ill to work tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marriedman Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Was that OTD?! If so, man you are one hell of a haggler! I got mine for $7,023. That way it came to $7,500 OTD and I thought I was a thief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volfy Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I may be too ill to work tomorrow Yes, that Anxioustoridetis (aka New Bike Fever) can be awfully debilitating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFROr Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Was that OTD?! If so, man you are one hell of a haggler! I got mine for $7,023. That way it came to $7,500 OTD and I thought I was a thief! $7100 + DMV = $7270 OTD. No haggling really, I emailed about the bike, they said they had an offer of 7100 but no deposit, I said I'd match that with cash, they said alrighty then. As usual, work is completely interfering with my fun, don't know when I'll get to squeeze in some riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marriedman Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 No haggling and that low OTD price?! Damn, I need to move out to Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFROr Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Finally got a chance to take this bike for a spin (even though I was supposed to be helping my wife prep for a trip). Sweet Jeebus I absolutely loved the handling, the way it looks, the way it sounds, and the awesome freaking engine. Paddle shifting the bad boy is a hoot, laughing in my helmet most of the day Need to get some proper luggage, maybe a peg lowering kit, possibly Helibars, pretty comfy just the way it is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer swimmer Posted May 4, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'd be crying myself to sleep if I had those roads to ride on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer ggathagan Posted May 4, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'd be crying myself to sleep if I had those roads to ride on a regular basis. Well, I don't know about the west coast, but here at home, a drive near the ocean usually means cleaning the bike afterwards to get the salt off. So, it's not all fun times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rider14 Posted May 4, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2015 Thumbsup to a great deal. Enjoy the bike! -Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamzombie Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I'd be crying myself to sleep if I had those roads to ride on a regular basis. Well, I don't know about the west coast, but here at home, a drive near the ocean usually means cleaning the bike afterwards to get the salt off. So, it's not all fun times... I'll trade you... :( https://goo.gl/maps/rj0sM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer dadofseven Posted May 8, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 8, 2015 I bought a 2 Bros Carbon Black can DynoJet is in Las Vegas and mine was the 1st 2012 in vegas and they did the MAP from my bike. 157 at the rear and 89 tq.....so, it works, and sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFROr Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Just got home from a Wyoming visit with family, first spare time to put up a short video of TBR can. Personally I like the way it sounds on the Grande Viffer. https://vimeo.com/127444267 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer zedXmick Posted May 15, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted May 15, 2015 Video of the Delkevic Exhaust I just put on. Has a nice deep sound in person. https://youtu.be/YCMgprc04tM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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