Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 4, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2016 And so it begins.... There is a 1st time for everything, so is taking the forks apart to service them (and drill holes for the RT emulators) Aye, this one is leaking.. Nasty crud inside and the circlip will not budge This helped some, but not all the way. Will buy a proper circlip wrench tomorrow, this cheapo "Wallmart" is not cutting the mustard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Sparrow75 Posted May 4, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2016 Hey Dutchy, I had a similar struggle with my forks when I put emulators in. Seemed like the seals backed up a bit and the rubber of the seal and the crud pinched the circlip in place really tightly. I tapped the circlips down a bit to loosen the grip the seal had on the clip. Might help, maybe not. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 4, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2016 Will give that a try in the morning thanks! 21:00 here, time for a beer as the sun sets... While we are heredear forum: what is that trick again with the broom stick? No, not for my wife, she is no witch.... :-) On leg #1, the bottom bolt (holding the innards) broke loose no problemo and after having drained the oil, it came out fine (('cept the circlip...). Got to work on leg #2 (the TRAC one), but nope, all I hear is "the Rubberband Man" by ?????? Compressed the fork a bit to put more pressure on to no avail. I have this impact driver (not pneumatic or electric, the one you whack with a hammer) but not the #6 bit.. I recall something about shoving a modified broomstick to stop the innards rotating... anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted May 4, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Dutchy said: taking the forks apart to service them (and drill holes for the RT emulators) Yay. Don't forget to stone down any rock chips or pits, they can ruin a bunch of work in a few miles. Had 2 friends recently not heed that advice and their new seals are leaking. "I don't know why" "I do..." as I catch my fingernail on rock chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 4, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2016 Stone down? Did Keith Richard fall out a palm tree again? :-) I was thinking of applying some Autosol and gentle rub with a soft cloth (not length wise but across). Good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted May 4, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 4, 2016 35 minutes ago, Dutchy said: Stone down? Did Keith Richard fall out a palm tree again? :-) I was thinking of applying some Autosol and gentle rub with a soft cloth (not length wise but across). Good idea? Not familiar with Autosol here in the States (Well... maybe just me). Depending on the pit, I sometimes use a knife blade stone to bring down the burr, then follow with some increasingly fine sand paper (usually a well used piece of 600 up to 1000) and finish with a metal polish (Honda or Mothers). Don't need to completely remove the pit, just knock down any high spot / burr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 5, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 5, 2016 Broomstick did the trick :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 5, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 5, 2016 Aaaahhh the surprises a 30 year old motorcycle brings................... with the TRAC leg bolt now out, its circlip is soaking in penetrating oil at the moment for it is even more stuck, but I will let the chemistry do its trick. The top seal was toast as well now, for the surprise (or is it?)..... separated the lower from the tube to find..... huh? I was expecting to see 2 small -oppostie- holes only, but there are four 13mm holes! Is this standard on the forks of a VF500F? Or has a PO been doing this? The RT instructions states there are to be six 8mm holes to ensure enough oil can flow. So I reckon 4x13mm will be enough. It will also prevent me from messing things up. I dont have a column drill handy... I have new bushing and by the looks of it they are due no? compared to the new ones for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 5, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 5, 2016 The rod in the TRAC fork however only has 2 13mm holes... 2 extra holes will be drilled tomorrow when a pal of mine goes to work (he works in a metal engineering company). 2 13mm so the flow is equal to the other. Another question! The RT instructions state that TRAC is to be disabled. Couldnot find what this entails. I removed the circlips, sprIng and washers Is that enough or must I do something else too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted May 5, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 5, 2016 I'll pull out my Race Tech paper work later and see if there are any more detailed instructions on this, but I think what you did is pretty much it. The area of 4x13mm holes (pi times radius squared) is more than 6x8mm holes, so it appears you're good. The instructions state that you can't provide too much oil, just to make sure you provide enough. If I was set up to drill, I personally would make 6 holes, but it really doesn't seem like you have to. Looks like Honda made some changes on the F2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 5, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 5, 2016 Cheers Captain, that puts my mind at ease... The paper say indeed to ensyre there is enough flow. Compare this to a few pictures earlier.... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted May 5, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 5, 2016 Nice. Much better. I reviewed the online instructions and it looks like what you eliminated is correct. 2 circlips, 2 washers and the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 It will be a night vs day different I think as you get all back and out on the road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 8, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 8, 2016 Houston..... we donot and will not have a problem.... Yep, dykes are strengthened and raised here. it was an unusual warm day for the month of May, some 26 celcius And....... 50kay today :-) And the front end feel sooo much better now, Me happy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhenley17 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I wish analog speedometers would come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFRBert Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Analog speedometers are just to expensive to fabrikate. A Cheap lcd and some cheap electronics are way cheaper, but i love analog to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Happy man you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 15, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 15, 2016 Been riding a few dykes hard, some serious blowing going on (cross winds). But hey! a man has to eat too!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted May 21, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted May 21, 2016 Single lane road with passing places. Van in front of me comes to a stop just past a passing place, I stop ~6 feet behind him, to his left. I can see his mirror, but also the oncoming car Next I see his reverse lights coming on. I give him some Freeway Blaster and shuffle back Not fast enough, but at least he did stop and didn't run over me.... The tap was just enough to tip me over. managed to lay her down gentrly. Side case took the weight and got scuffed, as did the mirror and a Pazzo lever. The insurance companies may now sort it out between them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer RobF Posted May 21, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 21, 2016 That's no fun. Sorry, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFRBert Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Ouch nog the right way to park your mistress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Mikey Posted May 22, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 22, 2016 So sorry to see that. Glad you are OK and the VFR is not too badly damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sorry to hear that Dutchy, but better the 4th gen than the VF500, parts easyer to find! Still better you did not hurt, there are other bikes, but not a second you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Kel Posted May 22, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 hour ago, keny said: Sorry to hear that Dutchy, but better the 4th gen tan the VF500, parts easyer to find! Still better you did not hurt, there are other bikes, but not a second you! What Keny said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted June 1, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted June 1, 2016 Today the damage assessor (hired by the opposing insurer) and my mc dealer staff member came to a for me very very satisfactory conclusion; avoiding an "economic write-off". Thus not having to go through the process of having to wait for brokers to bid on redslut and then me having you buy her back at the highest bid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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