Still new here, and browsing the archives. I don't see much love for hydro turf. To me, it's the cat's meow. I bought a roll a while ago and made a bunch for daytonas, as that was my bike of choice at the time. Moving up into the world of comfortable bikes, I still risk scratching the tank, and enjoy squeezing with my knees. So, these aren't perfect, but they'll do. If I can ever get my hands on a decently priced seat, I'll most likely chop off the useless front wings and add a little bit o grip.