Beck Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Just in case nobody had noticed, there's a new player in the Lithium battery industry for vehicles.... http://www.batterytender.com/Batteries/360-CCA-Lithium-Engine-Start-Battery.html I wonder if they can be maintenance charged with their Battery tenders that most of us have already.... Do these have built in cell balancing circuitry? I kinda trust these guy more than the Shorias, Ballistic and other new Lithium battery makers for bikes as they are a familiar, long lived brand already..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted July 1, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted July 1, 2015 I actually bought one for my Ducati with a "matching" charger, I think I paid $127 for both. When I say matching charger, it was meant for use with their lithium battery. Similar to the battery, the charger weighed less than the Battery Tender Junior I have! When I get back to my computer, I'll confirm the price I paid, I'm on my iPad ATM. I went to Amazon and bought it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobbs Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I have had one in my Suzuki Katana for several months, really spins the starter fast. May buy one for the vfr, it's about 5lbs lighter in addition to the fast cranking. Bought it from Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer deltaboxii Posted July 2, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted July 2, 2015 Just in case nobody had noticed, there's a new player in the Lithium battery industry for vehicles.... http://www.batterytender.com/Batteries/360-CCA-Lithium-Engine-Start-Battery.html I wonder if they can be maintenance charged with their Battery tenders that most of us have already.... Do these have built in cell balancing circuitry? I kinda trust these guy more than the Shorias, Ballistic and other new Lithium battery makers for bikes as they are a familiar, long lived brand already..... Yes, they are. And yes, they can be charged with a Battery Tender, Jr, etc etc. As long as it is not a deep sulfation charger, you will be fine. It is really interesting that Deltran finally got into the li-ion business because they talked it down so much for years when it first came out. Part of their pitch was "none of the OEMs have gone to it yet so it must not work". Well, I believe Ducati is now offering a Paningale model with a li-ion battery standard. I have heard of alot of issues with Shorai and Ballistic. I have purchased 3 WPS lithium batteries (Daytona 675 track bike, Hawk GT and Y2K VFR) and all have been fine. 2 year warranty. They make several size cases vs. the Shorai that has a smaller number of sizes and uses more foam to provide the correct fit. More foam equals more weight and more heat so that defeats some of the advantage of a li-ion battery. Li-ion batteries work well in most applications. They don't like extreme heat or extreme cold. They can be especially finicky when its -20 degrees f. At those temps, they require about 10-15 seconds with the ignition switched on before they build up some resistance/ heat and will crank. They also are not as suited for larger (HD especially) v-twins. They just don't have the cranking capacity of a lead acid battery. Yet. Overall I have been really happy with my li-ion batteries and the weight savings is the biggest bang for the buck you will find on a modern sportbike. I shaved 7lbs of unsprung weight up high on my Daytona 675. For them money that was a super noticeable weight loss, and the battery was due for replacement anyways. For my pure sportbike applications, I feel that li-ion is the way to go. But for my 2007 VFR R/W/B that I ride cross country and year round, I will stick with my trusty Yuasa YTZ14S. But, as they say, YRMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MarkDetroit Posted July 2, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted July 2, 2015 So I went to the batterytender web site with the link above and entered info to get the VFR part number... BTL14A240C And then when tried to add it to cart the site replied with a "no longer available". I wonder what they know that we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Easy..... just get one meant for a bigger bike like one for an ST1100 with more CCA's, if still available, like how we upsize for gel and acid batteries...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted July 2, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted July 2, 2015 I bought mine on Amazon a couple months ago and the Battery Tender designed specifically for it. IIRC I think I put in the 6G model and ordered that for my 5G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobbs Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 When I got mine for the Suzuki, I upsized to the largest one that would fit the battery box, battery measurements are on their site. That's SPRUNG weight btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klrtovfr Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 the battery tender lithium is made by the same chinese manufacture as Scorpion Lithiums and a few others. They are balanced cells which is superior to the popular shorai which last time I checked is not.. I have the scorpion for 1.5 years when they first introduced the new generation lithiums. It has been rock solid. I have even completely drained it from when I bypassed my grip heater relay overnight. All you need is either a quick jump or a 5 minute charge. As soon you start it, Shut it off right away and try starting it without jumping or charging more. It will fire right up. You cant do that with a lead acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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