JimGregory Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't know much about this system yet, but if I have the bike on the center stand and apply the rear brake it also stops the front wheel. If I apply the front brake it only stops the front wheel. My limited understanding is it should also stop the rear wheel. I understand this is just a simple test but has my bike passed or failed? I do want everything to be as Honda wanted it to be. I am in process of UNmodding whatever I find which is not much so far. Best Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer FJ12Ryder Posted July 17, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 17, 2014 You've got the right idea but the application isn't quite right. If you look at the right hand caliper you'll see a secondary master cylinder that is activated when the caliper is squeezed and the tire is rotating. This acts on center rear brake piston. Pretty simplified, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcooper Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The front brake lever doesn't apply force to the rear caliper directly. The secondary master cylinder mounted to your front left caliper does that. That master cylinder is only actuated by the drag of the brake pads on the rotor while the wheel is rotating, so it does nothing when the bike is stationary. It sounds like your brakes are working just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGregory Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 OK I found my answer. The front wheel must be turning to actuate the rear brake. Can't do that on the center stand! Best Whoops..then got two answers while I was typing! Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted July 17, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 17, 2014 No slackers here !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGregory Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 No slackers here !!! Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffviff Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 There's an excellent (and detailed!) description of how it all works at the back of the Service Manual - which is at the link below: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/files/file/171-98-01-honda-vfr-service-manual-optimized-bookmarked/ You can test the rear brake link by moving the front caliper by manually (to move the secondary cylinder attached to it).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGregory Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 There's an excellent (and detailed!) description of how it all works at the back of the Service Manual - which is at the link below: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/files/file/171-98-01-honda-vfr-service-manual-optimized-bookmarked/ You can test the rear brake link by moving the front caliper by manually (to move the secondary cylinder attached to it).. Yup that's what I figured but my arms are not long enough. No biggy. I will press the girlfriend into service at some point Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BCmcrider Posted July 17, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yup that's what I figured but my arms are not long enough. No biggy. I will press the girlfriend into service at some point Thanks! Indeed. Then get her to help you check the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted July 17, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have made myself learn to use them but it took awhile . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGregory Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yup that's what I figured but my arms are not long enough. No biggy. I will press the girlfriend into service at some point Thanks! Indeed. Then get her to help you check the brakes. Roger that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted July 20, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 20, 2014 BTW: Consumer Motorcycle News lists "ten best" bikes with significant performance features in their semi-annual mc value issues. VFR800fi is tied with another bike for 6th best braking at 108.something ft. Many motorcycle evaluations article authors consider 120 ft. to be excellent. I've celebrated my '01 brakes several times. Use them both every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGregory Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 I was able to bleed the fronts very easily alone. What happenned was I was installing a set of heli bars I got second hand. Loosened the banjo bolt a tad too much and got a buble in there. Came right out on the first bleeder screw like it was there waiting for me. All good. Thanks! I'm sure I could do a breakie if I wanted to try but I don't. I like both wheels down for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 This bike is a bit heavy for "stoppies".....my front wheel ends up sliding~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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