Dutchgixxer Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Ok i think i found the way how to derestrict the speedlimitation of the VFR1200f. The abs modulator has a output Vsp to both dash and ECU. Remove Vsp (wire red/green black connector) to the ECU and gone is the limitation. No further concequenses are to be expected. Speed indication on the dash keeps working. Not tested yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Ok i think i found the way how to derestrict the speedlimitation of the VFR1200f. The abs modulator has a output Vsp to both dash and ECU. Remove Vsp (wire red/green black connector) to the ECU and gone is the limitation. No further concequenses are to be expected. Speed indication on the dash keeps working. Not tested yet. Please test your theory and let us know. Flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Ok i think i found the way how to derestrict the speedlimitation of the VFR1200f. The abs modulator has a output Vsp to both dash and ECU. Remove Vsp (wire red/green black connector) to the ECU and gone is the limitation. No further concequenses are to be expected. Speed indication on the dash keeps working. Not tested yet. Just cut the wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchgixxer Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 Ok i think i found the way how to derestrict the speedlimitation of the VFR1200f. The abs modulator has a output Vsp to both dash and ECU. Remove Vsp (wire red/green black connector) to the ECU and gone is the limitation. No further concequenses are to be expected. Speed indication on the dash keeps working. Not tested yet. Just cut the wire? Yes or remove nicely from the black connector nr 27 ( you can put in the wire later back in if you want. So cutting the wire is not needed ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fotodadi Posted October 18, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 18, 2010 Ok i think i found the way how to derestrict the speedlimitation of the VFR1200f. The abs modulator has a output Vsp to both dash and ECU. Remove Vsp (wire red/green black connector) to the ECU and gone is the limitation. No further concequenses are to be expected. Speed indication on the dash keeps working. Not tested yet. Just cut the wire? Yes or remove nicely from the black connector nr 27 ( you can put in the wire later back in if you want. So cutting the wire is not needed ) Can this also be the case for the 1200 DCT? Just opened up my tank and found my ECM. 4 connectors not 3. Any help with this? The schematics you posted were extremely helpful but don't want to cut/pull out the wrong wire I guess they were for the clutch version. :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted October 18, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 18, 2010 Looking forward to a GPS screenshot with the top speed...... :fing02: Best head east across the border... :laughing6-hehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer chonsey Posted October 18, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 18, 2010 Is the stock HP not enough? My K1300s has more HP than I'll ever need on a public road, I cannot imagine the VFR1200 needing more than stock. But what do I know, maybe I am a slow rider... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I've had my VFR up over 250Km/h but no desire and no space here to safely go faster than that. I don't think I'll bother removing the limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Ryanme17 Posted October 19, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 19, 2010 I've had my VFR up over 250Km/h but no desire and no space here to safely go faster than that. I don't think I'll bother removing the limitation. Out of curiosity, when does the speed limiter kick in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchgixxer Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 I've had my VFR up over 250Km/h but no desire and no space here to safely go faster than that. I don't think I'll bother removing the limitation. Out of curiosity, when does the speed limiter kick in? Mugello scrnsht 2010.bmp @251 km/h 266km/h on the dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer 2thdr Posted October 19, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 19, 2010 I've had my VFR up over 250Km/h but no desire and no space here to safely go faster than that. I don't think I'll bother removing the limitation. Out of curiosity, when does the speed limiter kick in? Mugello scrnsht 2010.bmp @251 km/h 266km/h on the dash Only 6% speedo error on the new beast eh? My 2004 has about 8-9% error... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Polarbear Posted October 19, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 19, 2010 I've had my VFR up over 250Km/h but no desire and no space here to safely go faster than that. I don't think I'll bother removing the limitation. Out of curiosity, when does the speed limiter kick in? Mugello scrnsht 2010.bmp @251 km/h 266km/h on the dash Please tell me you don't want to go faster, unless you're on a race track... :blink: :blink: :blink: c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchgixxer Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 I've had my VFR up over 250Km/h but no desire and no space here to safely go faster than that. I don't think I'll bother removing the limitation. Out of curiosity, when does the speed limiter kick in? Mugello scrnsht 2010.bmp @251 km/h 266km/h on the dash Please tell me you don't want to go faster, unless you're on a race track... :blink: :blink: :blink: c :tour: yess i want to get faster because i was overtaken by a 954 fireblade from 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fotodadi Posted October 19, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 19, 2010 I figure its not possible to carry out this mod on the DCT as the ECM controls the gearbox as well as the engine. Seeing that is as it is, then, removing this Vsp will also disable the gearbox as the bike will not know what speed you are in and so will not change gears appropriately. :mad: Just a thought. Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchgixxer Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 I figure its not possible to carry out this mod on the DCT as the ECM controls the gearbox as well as the engine. Seeing that is as it is, then, removing this Vsp will also disable the gearbox as the bike will not know what speed you are in and so will not change gears appropriately. :mad: Just a thought. Any others? I think its not possible to remove the power restriction in 1 st and secondgear But its no problem to remove the VSP signal from the ecu. Witch gear is desicided by trottle opening revs mode and selected gear. Should be working. If not just remove mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fotodadi Posted October 19, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 19, 2010 I think its not possible to remove the power restriction in 1 st and secondgear But its no problem to remove the VSP signal from the ecu. Witch gear is desicided by trottle opening revs mode and selected gear. Should be working. If not just remove mod. Thanks! Any idea if the color coding for the wires might be the same for the FD as the F? Any idea if the Vsp wire also goes to the ECM via the same plug 27? FD version has 4 plugs to the ECM and not 3 like with the F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshake Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Is the stock HP not enough? My K1300s has more HP than I'll ever need on a public road, I cannot imagine the VFR1200 needing more than stock. But what do I know, maybe I am a slow rider... Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they are talking about the apparently excessive computer mandated power reduction in the first two gears under certain conditions. It seems to be a half-assed effort at traction control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fotodadi Posted October 19, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 19, 2010 Is the stock HP not enough? My K1300s has more HP than I'll ever need on a public road, I cannot imagine the VFR1200 needing more than stock. But what do I know, maybe I am a slow rider... Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they are talking about the apparently excessive computer mandated power reduction in the first two gears under certain conditions. It seems to be a half-assed effort at traction control. Right you are sir!!! As in wrong you are We are talking about top speed on this thread!!! :fing02: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Ryanme17 Posted October 19, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 19, 2010 Mugello scrnsht 2010.bmp @251 km/h 266km/h on the dash That's 156 mph for those of us in the states. Wasn't the old gentleman's agreement 300 kph? Is the stock HP not enough? My K1300s has more HP than I'll ever need on a public road, I cannot imagine the VFR1200 needing more than stock. But what do I know, maybe I am a slow rider... Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they are talking about the apparently excessive computer mandated power reduction in the first two gears under certain conditions. It seems to be a half-assed effort at traction control. Right you are sir!!! As in wrong you are We are talking about top speed on this thread!!! :fing02: But there is a different thread about the first 2 gear power problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fotodadi Posted October 20, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 20, 2010 I think its not possible to remove the power restriction in 1 st and secondgear But its no problem to remove the VSP signal from the ecu. Witch gear is desicided by trottle opening revs mode and selected gear. Should be working. If not just remove mod. Thanks! Any idea if the color coding for the wires might be the same for the FD as the F? Any idea if the Vsp wire also goes to the ECM via the same plug 27? FD version has 4 plugs to the ECM and not 3 like with the F. Yes I can confirm that the wiring is definitely different for the FD version. No red/green or pink/green wire to the black connector. And like I said there are 4 connectors (a White one in addition to the Black, Grey and Blue connectors). So the question is; Does any one have the wiring schematic for the FD version? :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchgixxer Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 I think its not possible to remove the power restriction in 1 st and secondgear But its no problem to remove the VSP signal from the ecu. Witch gear is desicided by trottle opening revs mode and selected gear. Should be working. If not just remove mod. Thanks! Any idea if the color coding for the wires might be the same for the FD as the F? Any idea if the Vsp wire also goes to the ECM via the same plug 27? FD version has 4 plugs to the ECM and not 3 like with the F. Yes I can confirm that the wiring is definitely different for the FD version. No red/green or pink/green wire to the black connector. And like I said there are 4 connectors (a White one in addition to the Black, Grey and Blue connectors). So the question is; Does any one have the wiring schematic for the FD version? :blush: Sorry i do not have the wiring schematic for the FD version yet. I will post it when my manual arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fotodadi Posted October 20, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 20, 2010 Sorry i do not have the wiring schematic for the FD version yet. I will post it when my manual arrives. Thanks :fing02: Interesting thing though!! Iput my bike up on the center stand, put on the engine, and engaged the gear. With 1st gear engaged and indicated, I revved her up, hoping to get a gear change. But no such thing. Switch to manual mode and sport mode; no gear change, revving to red line. Instead the ABS light started flashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchgixxer Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Sorry i do not have the wiring schematic for the FD version yet. I will post it when my manual arrives. Thanks :fing02: Interesting thing though!! Iput my bike up on the center stand, put on the engine, and engaged the gear. With 1st gear engaged and indicated, I revved her up, hoping to get a gear change. But no such thing. Switch to manual mode and sport mode; no gear change, revving to red line. Instead the ABS light started flashing. The bike refuses the change gear as long as the front wheel is not rotating. In standard mode it is not possible the dyno the bike. I have made a holder to mount the front ABS sensor on the rear wheel together with a cable extender. In that way we have dynoed my mates VFR1200FD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fotodadi Posted October 20, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted October 20, 2010 The bike refuses the change gear as long as the front wheel is not rotating. In standard mode it is not possible the dyno the bike. I have made a holder to mount the front ABS sensor on the rear wheel together with a cable extender. In that way we have dynoed my mates VFR1200FD. Well done!!! :cheerleader: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soichiro Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I've had my VFR up over 250Km/h but no desire and no space here to safely go faster than that. I don't think I'll bother removing the limitation. Out of curiosity, when does the speed limiter kick in? Mugello scrnsht 2010.bmp @251 km/h 266km/h on the dash Only 6% speedo error on the new beast eh? My 2004 has about 8-9% error... Funny, the magazine test all said the speedo had no error and was dead on. my 6th gen was 10%off. So what is the top speed unrestricted? What revs does it cut out. It has a giant front so anything higher may be aero limited. Maybe they limited it for a a reason. I think they agrred upon 189mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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