Member Contributer FotoMoto Posted April 3, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 3, 2009 Grrrrrr. Saw a slight wisp of smoke and smelled burning plastic while starting up the bike in the garage. Voltmeter was still registering normal. Glad I caught it in time. I cut the connector out and wired it straight in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer magicman Posted April 3, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 3, 2009 crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer FotoMoto Posted April 3, 2009 Author Member Contributer Share Posted April 3, 2009 crazy 13 years old, I'm surprised it made it this far. :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer backonabike Posted April 3, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 3, 2009 I came out of class the other day and the my bike wouldn't fire. So I push Started it and she got me home. I pulled it apart and put dialectric on everything and picked up about 1 volt. It is still low though. I am going to try to run a couple of fused wires from the hot side of the RR dirrectly to the battery as I have seen suggested on this board by some of the guys. BTW Mmy Stator RR connection did the same exact thing last spring. I also cut out the connector and hardwired it. That worked well all last year. Good Luck. Ler us know how you make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR Capt.Bob Posted April 3, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 3, 2009 I am having a similar issue. Just replaced the RR and installed the vfrness. Now I am noticing heat damage to the 3 yellow wires and the same plug you pictured. Tuesday, I ran across Larry on Angeles Crest Hwy, who rides a 94 vfr and has found the starter relay to be the culprit and not the stator. I'm going to replace mine and get a voltmeter. He also recommends pulling the contacts apart and applying dialectic grease as regular maintinance. Starter relay is a $27 part. Cheaper than frying RR's and batteries. Here is a good source for parts. http://www.xtremeusa.com/fiche_section_detail.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer SkeeBoy Posted April 3, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 3, 2009 Those look like the stator/alternator wires?I just had to do that on a friends 75 gl1000.The connector with the stator wires was melted beyond recognition and the plug with the with the 2 main 12g pwr wires was toasty and melted as well.Reminds me of some other Honda bikes. :happy: Ordered a magnetic starter relay for it as its in bad shape hopfully it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvoges Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I am having a similar issue. Just replaced the RR and installed the vfrness. Now I am noticing heat damage to the 3 yellow wires and the same plug you pictured.Tuesday, I ran across Larry on Angeles Crest Hwy, who rides a 94 vfr and has found the starter relay to be the culprit and not the stator. I'm going to replace mine and get a voltmeter. He also recommends pulling the contacts apart and applying dialectic grease as regular maintinance. Starter relay is a $27 part. Cheaper than frying RR's and batteries. Here is a good source for parts. http://www.xtremeusa.com/fiche_section_detail.asp I tried to look up a starter relay with no luck. How would I find one for a 98? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer spotthedogg Posted April 3, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 3, 2009 This is the first I have heard of the starter relay, what are the signs it should be replaced? Or are you upgrading to aftermarket?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvoges Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 This is the first I have heard of the starter relay, what are the signs it should be replaced? Or are you upgrading to aftermarket?? +1 I would like to know as well seeing as I'm currently having charging system issues that I can't seem to rap my fingers around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tightwad Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 This is the first I have heard of the starter relay, what are the signs it should be replaced? Or are you upgrading to aftermarket?? +1 I would like to know as well seeing as I'm currently having charging system issues that I can't seem to rap my fingers around. The Starter Relay usually has problems with the connector...but the relay is fine. The 4 pin connector likes to burn up, common for all years although the relay is not the same for all. The starter relay passes all the current from the R/R, unless you install the VFRness. This is a bad design IMO as all charging goes through 1 pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer jstanwood Posted April 4, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 4, 2009 crazy 13 years old, I'm surprised it made it this far. Don't you jinx me! I did the dielectric grease trick on those connectors while I had everything apart for my maintenance extravaganza. I'm just trying to beat the problems before they arrive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud786 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 The conductive properties of WD40 are better than Dielectric grease , if the grease creates any lack of continuity you may even get more heat buildup. I've had zero issues with ocassional, connection checks and prepping on the vfr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud786 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 A perfect picture of what happens with poor Mechanical connection continuity. Easily preventable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer rangemaster Posted April 4, 2009 Member Contributer Share Posted April 4, 2009 This is the first I have heard of the starter relay, what are the signs it should be replaced? Or are you upgrading to aftermarket?? +1 I would like to know as well seeing as I'm currently having charging system issues that I can't seem to rap my fingers around. The Starter Relay usually has problems with the connector...but the relay is fine. The 4 pin connector likes to burn up, common for all years although the relay is not the same for all. The starter relay passes all the current from the R/R, unless you install the VFRness. This is a bad design IMO as all charging goes through 1 pin. "This is a bad design as all charging goes through 1 pin." What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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