750 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 10 hours ago, scottbott said: mine has Hel brake and clutch lines fitted by the previous owner,this is my first VFR so do not know how good or bad the brakes are,never used them in real anger as yet Not great, certainly not stoppy inducing and I wouldn't recommend riding quick up someones arse. The bike far outweighs the braking capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer scottbott Posted February 25, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted February 25, 2017 don't worry will be anywhere near another rider as I am still getting used to the bike after a very long time from riding,not a pretty sight I reckon,just waiting for better weather to get more miles and confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 hours ago, 750 said: Not great, certainly not stoppy inducing and I wouldn't recommend riding quick up someones arse. The bike far outweighs the braking capabilities. Coming from riding a 1993 cb750(nighthawk) with single disc front and drum rear this bike stops amazingly quick for the weight. Both bikes are about 460 lbs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
750 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Yeah they're good enough, but if you want slamming-into-a-brick-wall style stopping power, the standard calipers are waaaay off that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Finally got around to measuring and deciding what to do with the brake lines. I just got a Pit Bull headlift front stand, which allows the forks to extend fully. All measurements are overall length(including banjo fittings). My brother gave me a hand which made it a lot easier. I did custom angled fittings on the front brake and clutch lines to clear the forks and get the adjustment of the levers correct. Front brake lines Right- 30 inches Left - 31 inches Clutch - 39 inches Rear - 30 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer RC36Rider Posted May 15, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted May 15, 2017 19 hours ago, coupedupsubie said: [...] which allows the forks to extend fully. Good thinking. I heard of one case where that little detail was overlooked leading to the brake lines snapping clean off upon the first wheelie. Fresh underwear time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 hours ago, RC36Rider said: Good thinking. I heard of one case where that little detail was overlooked leading to the brake lines snapping clean off upon the first wheelie. Fresh underwear time. Between my brother and I we double checked everything. I ordered last night, and received an email today with a question about color. Hopefully I will be riding this weekend. I looked around more and found galfer does custom lines as well, but no price information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devo83 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just put a full Galfer kit on my 93. Clutch and both brake lines. Went on perfectly! Pricing was about $200 Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer rhoderage Posted May 20, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted May 20, 2017 Curious _ did you order directly from Galfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 20 hours ago, Devo83 said: Just put a full Galfer kit on my 93. Clutch and both brake lines. Went on perfectly! Pricing was about $200 Canadian. It appears as though the 90-93 master cylinders do not have the stops around the banjo fittings. This would allow you to install Helibars without the issue I have with my 94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devo83 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 What are Helibars? Yes i I called Galfer directly to order as I couldn't find them through any distributors. Even Galfer doesn't stock them. Mine were made for my order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer JZH Posted May 21, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted May 21, 2017 12 hours ago, coupedupsubie said: It appears as though the 90-93 master cylinders do not have the stops around the banjo fittings. This would allow you to install Helibars without the issue I have with my 94. Hacksaw? Ciao, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, JZH said: Hacksaw? Ciao, I already received my new lines with the proper fittings so I do not have to cut or grind them off. While that is a solution I decided to go a different route as I have made this bike a bit of a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Devo83 said: What are Helibars? Yes i I called Galfer directly to order as I couldn't find them through any distributors. Even Galfer doesn't stock them. Mine were made for my order. Helibars are aftermarket clip ons that give you a bit of a higher bar, but also changes the angle of them to make it more comfortable. They are no longer made but can be foundon eBay occasionally. Most brake line companies don't stock kits for older bikes but keep the specs on file to quickly make them when an order comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devo83 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hmm I don't find the stock setting uncomfortable at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Devo83 said: Hmm I don't find the stock setting uncomfortable at all. Everyone fits a bike different. The only issue I have is that I was leaned over slightly too much. The Helibars made just sitting on the bike more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafy2 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I've got helibars as well, fitted with WezMoto lines ( https://wezmoto.com/ ). When I ordered them I got both lines extended by 25mm (an inch in cro-magnon units) and they fitted perfectly. No need for 45 degree fittings at all. One thing I did discover is that routing the lines outside the fork legs induces chafing on the mudguard so route them inside instead to avoid damaging the PU covering. I also used a Dremel to remove the tang- 5 minutes work and a neat finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 16 hours ago, leafy2 said: I've got helibars as well, fitted with WezMoto lines ( https://wezmoto.com/ ). When I ordered them I got both lines extended by 25mm (an inch in cro-magnon units) and they fitted perfectly. No need for 45 degree fittings at all. One thing I did discover is that routing the lines outside the fork legs induces chafing on the mudguard so route them inside instead to avoid damaging the PU covering. I also used a Dremel to remove the tang- 5 minutes work and a neat finish. Cutting off the tang is the normal method, and allows for the stock brake lines to be used. I just prefer to not cut them off and was going to get stainless lines anyway. I will be installing my new lines Friday. They showed up just before I left for work, 28 days on a boat in the Gulf of Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crenninger Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I've got a set of front stainless brake line from a bike I parted out. it was coated with plastic which started to come off. otherwise fully functional. sounds like the newer brake lines don't come with any plastic around them. Make offer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer SamW Posted August 10, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted August 10, 2017 Does anyone have a source for the Tee style SS brake lines for the 4th Gen? I have them on my Guzzi, straight line from MC to right caliper that has a tee to the left caliper right above the fender. Sort of how the original lines are. Would also love to have this for my '86 VFR too, the splitter is a paint o bleed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupedupsubie Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 21 hours ago, SamW said: Does anyone have a source for the Tee style SS brake lines for the 4th Gen? I have them on my Guzzi, straight line from MC to right caliper that has a tee to the left caliper right above the fender. Sort of how the original lines are. Would also love to have this for my '86 VFR too, the splitter is a paint o bleed. When I was looking around I think I saw HEL have a them like that. I know CoreMoto can make them, as well as Galfer. As far as bleeding the brakes, I highly recommend a vacuum bleeder. My brother had to bleed his a few times before he got a proper brake feel. Mine was done within a couple hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer JZH Posted August 11, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted August 11, 2017 You could make your own, or have someone make them for you, but the main expense in braided stainless steel brake lines is the fittings: this kind of design is generally much more expensive--and it is debateable that it is easier to bleed. I use a double banjo bolt with a bleeder at the top of my dual line setups and bleeding is usually very simple. Ciao, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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