AParamedic Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Hi there I went out for a quick ride on my '02 with ABS. About 2 minutes from my destination, my motorcycle sputtered out and died. It was a warm day, I was in stop and go traffic and the fan was running at full tilt. I thought I just stalled it b/c it died just as I was starting from a traffic light, but I couldn't get it re-started. My battery has been weak and my dealer doesn't have the electrical recall parts back in yet, so I've been keeping my bike on a battery tender every night and I attributed my lack of re-start to a weak battery... So I pushed it a couple of blocks to a friend's house and re-charged the battery, but still the motorcycle won't start back up. SYMPTOMS: The starter turns, the engine catches, but it dies right away. If I twist the throttle a little, it still dies. THE FUNNY THING IS: If I hold the starter button in, the engine runs, but I only tried that for about 4-5 seconds total and then stopped for fear of damaging the starter. He's what I've checked so far: 1) All fuses - underseat and under both front quarter fairings - All fuses OK 2) Fuel pump - whines when I turn the key switch from IGN to ON 3) Voltage - battery was fully re-charged. I even hooked up a set of jumper cables to make sure that I was getting enough voltage. It turns over fine and the headlights are bright, but the engine still won't stay running 4) Neutral switch - I held the bike up, pulled the clutch in and retracted the kickstand - still no go. I am deciding on whether to go rent a trailer or if there is anything else I can try to do. I'm on the sidewalk in the middle of a city, so my roadside troubleshooting options are slightly limited. Any advice, help, or uplifting thoughts would be very deeply appreciated! I'd especially appreciate any additional trouble-shooting tips you might have to offer! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KanadianKen Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Check the green wires at the blue connector on the left side front upper fairing. Suspect your ground circuit might be melting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlecreek Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Check the green wires at the blue connector on the left side front upper fairing. Suspect your ground circuit might be melting.... maybe the 30amp wire too? do you/did you hear any buzzing under your front fairing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Stéphane Posted May 14, 2008 Member Contributer Share Posted May 14, 2008 Any gas? Sounds like it's out of gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AParamedic Posted May 14, 2008 Author Share Posted May 14, 2008 Any gas? Sounds like it's out of gas. Hi everyone... Thanks for the help so far... I did visually check the gas - I have 1/2 a tank. I'll look at the wires that were mentioned. 30 amp main fuse is OK No buzzing, but I was on a city street and it was loud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer 2FAST4U Posted May 14, 2008 Member Contributer Share Posted May 14, 2008 Any gas? Sounds like it's out of gas. Hi everyone... Thanks for the help so far... I did visually check the gas - I have 1/2 a tank. I'll look at the wires that were mentioned. 30 amp main fuse is OK No buzzing, but I was on a city street and it was loud... Where in Philly is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Sounds a lot like the ground wire problem. For a quick fix, pull the left side fairing, and locate the large blue connector. In one corner, you will see a green wire coming in and out of the connector. Cut it on both sides, and re-connect it(by-passing the connector). Should start right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Sounds a lot like the ground wire problem. For a quick fix, pull the left side fairing, and locate the large blue connector. In one corner, you will see a green wire coming in and out of the connector. Cut it on both sides, and re-connect it(by-passing the connector). Should start right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AParamedic Posted May 14, 2008 Author Share Posted May 14, 2008 Thanks... So just to be clear, this blue connector is under the LEFT side fairing (turn-signal switch side opposite of the regulator-rectifier)? I'm asking b/c the bike is parked in the middle of a downtown sidewalk and I'll have to pull the fairing with a ton of pedestrian traffic around me. Thanks again to everyone here at VFRD for all your help! This place is awesome! Sounds a lot like the ground wire problem. For a quick fix, pull the left side fairing, and locate the large blue connector. In one corner, you will see a green wire coming in and out of the connector. Cut it on both sides, and re-connect it(by-passing the connector). Should start right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Here's the link and fix! http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.p...ground+wire+fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer solohvs Posted May 14, 2008 Member Contributer Share Posted May 14, 2008 I'll get the trailer and we'll go grab the bike. Take it out of harms way. Or call Sam at Kickstart (484) 576-6512 and he'll do the same. $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Yes, left = clutch side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003_VTEC_Rider Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 New battery isn't going to fix the issue. I have the exact same problem. As it is, I am probably going to try and do the ground wire fix on mine this weekend, just to get it to the dealer. She goes in for a complete wire harness and fuse block replacement on Wednesday. Completely devoid of bodywork, since from what I hear dealers can't seem to keep bodywork looking nice. Later, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AParamedic Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 Hi Everyone! Thank you SO MUCH for all your help and offers of support. The bike is home safe & sound. It was the blue-connector ground wire that was the culprit. I am extremely grateful to all of you for your quick replies and ability to fix what Honda can't get right on their own. Thanks again, you guys are the best!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer cpkelly Posted May 15, 2008 Member Contributer Share Posted May 15, 2008 New battery isn't going to fix the issue. I have the exact same problem. As it is, I am probably going to try and do the ground wire fix on mine this weekend, just to get it to the dealer. She goes in for a complete wire harness and fuse block replacement on Wednesday. Completely devoid of bodywork, since from what I hear dealers can't seem to keep bodywork looking nice. Later, Jeff I trust my dealer but I still take off whatever bodywork I can. The way I look at it is less chance of it getting damaged and it also saves me some labor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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