skuuter

Most all of these rules work well, and are used most all the time whether it's a VFRD organized ride or a local area VFRD buddy ride. Good organized standard set of rules to use even for your local area group rides. If you get used to using these on your locally lead rides, then attending VFRD Rides will be a lot simpler for you and your friends if you attend one in the future.............. :goofy:

Great Stuff like usual HS.......fantastic looking scenery............. :fing02:

Surely, since the info is in your old unit, it can be retrieved......might ask Garmin............ :unsure:

I know your feeling....my first one did the same thing (2nd trip I used it). Garmin told me to send it to them for repair / replacement until I told them I purchased it from Tiger GPS. They told me to call them back. They replaced it free, and said they had that problem with some units. Starting on two years with (knock on wood) no probs with the second unit...... :ohmy: I too was very frustrated at forking out that kind of money, then not getting longer life of the unit...I feel your pain.................... :unsure: I "edited" your post......... :cool:

Yep.....a "bad", or inexperienced rider on the latest, greatest Ohlins stuff out there matched to his weight, etc. on a CBR race replica bike would do good to keep up with a "good" or experienced rider on a 250 Ninja on super tight, technical roads..............yes, the rider is the most important part that needs to be dialed in............... :fing02:

Nope... I'm all stock... haven't adjusted anything yet. My friend down the street works for Traxxion Dynamics and offered to tweak the stock settings for me if I can drop by the shop. I think I will start by letting his team look me and the bike over, dial in some good settings, and then see what aftermarked suspension stuff the reccommend. I gotta pay Dymos2000 for a set of Lasers, then I can put some cash into the suspension. I don't know if Butch had suspension work done, but I loved the way his bike rode. Hard to believe that I have put in over 21,000 miles on VFRs and never touched the suspension... but that's how it's played out. Now you can say... "Yeah, I know that guy! He rides much better now that he changed the settings!" Watch out Vespa riders... I just might pass you out on the road :biggrin: I think you said the other bike was lowered. Lowering a bike gives it less leverage to work the suspension. When the sprung weight drops to a lower point between the axle centers, it effectively "stiffens" the bike, making it seem to have firmer suspension. Raising the sprung weight gives it more leverage to work the suspension, making the bike seem "softer". A bike that's lowered transfers weight less than stock or raised. The lowered bike probably seemed firmer for your size. Roughly, once you transfer the swingarm to the point of parallel to the road, weight transfer stops....this being the point of maximum traction, especially "rear bite". Lowered bikes handle great...to a point. A stiffer sprung bike with the rear raised will transfer weight better/longer for a better maximum traction point with a large rider. In a nutshell....you can go faster because the suspension can drive the rear tire into the road on acceleration harder/longer before the maximum traction point is reached. That being said..."most riders" never reach twisty road speeds that require that much transfer............. :rolleyes:

That's great Will, Lowering your CG is the fastest way to quicken turn in, increase stability and confidence. The easiest & smoothest way to lower you CG is with your upper body. You don't really even need to lean towards the inside of a turn, if you just sit still in the seat but lean forward you will do two things: unlock your elbows(unweighted arms) and lower your CG. You should feel an instant improvement in feel and confidence. Adding a lean towards the inside(along with leaning forward) will lower the CG even more and the lower the CG the easier it is to transition the bike! :laugh: Hanging off with you butt is an excellent way to achieve dropping of the CG, BUT it takes much more coordination, muscle groups and time to do so and if you are not proficient at it you are More likely to upset the bike then help. This is why I suggest most riders(street) focus only on upper body movement as it achieves similar results, is easier to learn and can be done smoother with less practice then hanging off. Once you become proficient in this technique (UPPER BODY) weighting, then you can add lower body (advanced technique) leaning! Best Street Riding answer so far............. :laugh: ...."The Old Fart".......... :blink:

Another countersteering "fact".........I know this primarily addresses VFRs and riding bikes leaning toward sport types, but in case someone owns more than one type bike, or thinking of owning another type......... Cruisers, Gold Wings, etc., that place you in a fully upright riding position with a tendency to "plant" you in a seat closer to the rear wheel of the bike, feet farther forward, require the use of lots of countersteering as the primary tool for transitioning tight twisties. The longer wheelbases, and more relaxed fork rakes also, to some degree add to countersteering importance. Choppers (Oh no, not "THOSE" things... ) put you in a situation that almost entirely reduces you to countersteering being your only "tool for twisties", requiring a lot of countersteering input, for a small amount of gain......... :laugh:

For street riding in Tennessee, carrying your weight on your legs on some roads really can wear you out. Some of these roads are tight transitions for miles. A good "road riding system" makes more sense than "road racing systems"............ :laugh:

....... :blink:......probably......... :blush:...you've caused us to disrupt a serious riding form thread......... :laugh:

I gotta' go with learning to get your body weight and head out over the inside bar and mirror first, with weight on the inside peg, and fully looking through the turn...... :fing02: It really gets too complicated to start trying to do everything at once......... :fing02: Once you start getting smooth with these moves, you'll find yourself "instinctively" sliding around on the seat eventually. Getting your sight line, and upper body position right makes a fantastic cornering difference by themselves in quick, right, left, transitioning type twisty roads. After getting the position right, next step needs to be the timing of when to change position................2 cents from the "Old Slow Guy".............. :biggrin:

............ :cool: Most of the time, I simply slide over to one side, get my upper body out over the inside handlebar, head up toward the inside mirror, inside footpeg weighted. Countersteering............. :fing02: About all you need on the street Will. The lighter the bike, the more your body weight changes it. 6th Gen VFRs transition really well, especially given their weight.....Practice smoothness......you will be amazed. I've graduated Mitzie to body shifting more...her smoothness on flat, non-cambered, 90 degree country roads is improving every weekend............. :fing02:

"REALLY NICE".........CONGRATS............... :fing02:

Good Stuff.....looking forward to the rest.............. :fing02:

.............even too low for me.............. :warranty:

NICE................. :fing02:

Was planning on just having one motorcycle that would do it all (WHAT WAS I THINKING...... :tongue: )...wasn't quite as 2-up comfy as I hoped.......... :fing02:

I think I did the "publish" and "400 character count" right. Yeah, I'm planning on using it a lot....... :thumbsup:

Well after purchasing my new Black 06 VFR on May 5th, 2006, riding it for ten days at the Honda Hoot, joining VFRD on May 26th, 2006, I decided to go on a photo-shooting session in July. I loaded up my trusty brand new digital camera, knowing that some day, some how, I would post some pics on VFRD. Little did I realize how much time would elapse before I acquired the skill. My Wife got called to her store to fill in for a "missing-in-action" employee (not exactly a rare occurance). I decided to spend the day photographing my beautiful VFR and some of the landmarks of my local stomping grounds. First stop was the Krystal for coffee and breakfast, with the adjoining store fulfilling my fuel, water, snacks, and lunch-on-the-road needs. Off I headed with the sun not up yet. A quick blast out some well-known back roads to 4-lane Hwy 64. 4-lanes are generally not my favorite "cup-a-tea", but one spot there lets you watch the sun come up over the mountains in all it's splendid Southern Glory. I parked and waited, as more "Krystal-coffee-to-go" trickled down my throat.....Ah, at last.......... Well, after sitting until the sun was fully up and the coffee gone, I headed for Monteagle Mountain...my favorite riding mecca in skuuterland. I blasted up the Pelham side (a place to be made famous on Skuuter Crawls the next year in 07), zipping through Monteagle and out to the old, closed Monteagle Inn for a quick photo shoot of "my baby".......... Now a quick right onto the soon to turn to gravel road to Green's View. Stopping in the gravel parking lot, I walk to the edge to shoot some pics of what is, on a clear day, a magnificent view of seven Tennessee counties.......... Well, on through downtown Sewanee, which is pretty much made up of The University of the South. I stop at some of the main halls and Chapel for some more pictures.......... Next stop is the Memorial Cross, a monument in honor of Franklin County soldiers that gave their lives in past wars, dating back to the Civil War. This cross is 60ft. tall and looks out over another spectacular valley view of Franklin County.......... Back out onto Hwy 41-A and a quick left onto Hwy 56 toward Sherwood. Today's ride will end much sooner though at the massive Templeton Library, complete with a life-size, painted statue of the philanthropist himself, and an overlook of his favorite spot in Franklin County.......... From here, it is on the backroads through the valleys into the town of Lynchburg...home to Jack Daniels Distillery, and nestled in the "dry" county called Moore. It has a quaint, old-style, original square that is the very frequent hang-out of thousands of Motorcyclists year round.......... Well, off to the gates at Jack Daniels.......... Well, mid-afternoon, and my "lunch-to-go" is calling from the GIVI box. Off to Tims Ford State Park to rest, eat, and reflect on how lucky I am to be able to live and ride in such a beautiful place.......... Lunch over, a little "railing" of some of my favorite country twisties, and it's onto the Winchester Square to shoot some picks of a War Memorial on the square that I drew the soldiers for.......... close up...I only did the soldiers.......... Now I head for the Estill Springs Park for a few more photos of my bike with Tims Ford Lake as a backdrop.......... Well, another riding day in the "old guy's" life. Motorcycles are the best way to experience life....period...LIFE IS GOOD... :thumbsup:

Skutter can you please explain what pull the tubes up through the trees mean :unsure: forgive my ignorance :blink: Pull the fork tubes up through the triple clamps (aka trees). It will quicken the steering somewhat. Refer to Post #15. Triple "trees".......Old School.................Triple "clamps"........correct New School........THANKS............... :P ........ :thumbsup:

Good luck, but "WAAAAY" out of my league.................. :unsure:

Maybe Vids someday, after I get a handle on all this other stuff................ :unsure:

Set the sag, Pilot Powers and play with the air, bump the rebound on the rear, pull the tubes up through the trees a little...........been there, done that...makes a world of difference in a VFR................ :thumbsup:

Is there a problem with simply adding a roller idler pulley, or is this a preference to try to not run one..............